gear shifter issue, after replacing sator cover

[nibejeebies]

okay so Im having an issue with my 86 VR.

 

My brother has had the same model for about a year now, I found one that littlery matches his 86 VR down to the same paint scheme. The only difference in the two is mine has foot boards and a heal toe shifter where his has the standard pegs and toe shifter.

 

Well Friday the small edge of the generator/sator cover where the shifter connects broke completely off leaving me stuck in first gear. We got it home and started our quest and was lucky to find the cover some 1.5 hours away. We went and picked it up and got it home replaced it on the motorcycle.

 

However we have apparently done something wrong. it would seem that the gears are shifting backwards (pull up on the tow and the gear goes down, on the indicator) we can also not get the bike to turn over.

 

Press the start button and there's a click and what sounds like a brief whine from the old tube fuse box... not completely sure where it is coming from however.

 

Also the heel tow shifter doesn't seem to be very secure even though we went over everything no missing spacers, nuts, bolts, washers... and everything is tight.

 

Anything that you can suggest would be greatly appreciated. I have pics if needed.... thanks guys.

[2WHEELSFORME]

Might get

better answers in the first Gen section.

[nibejeebies]

Oh? Thought that the 86-93 was 2nd gen.... Ill repost over there unless a mod can transfer the thread

[Snaggletooth]

1st Gens are '83 - '93. The 83 - 85 is the MKI and the 86- 93 is MKII. After that when they changed to the cruiser style is the. 2nd Gen.

 

The shifter being backwards is a common error during reassembly. The ammembly has been put back on the shifter shaft 180 degrees off. Remove, rotate and you should be good to go. The buzzing trying to start my well be the starter solenoid not getting enough current. Check connections and battery charge and.go from there. Replacing those tube fuses with an upgrade to a blade style box will help solve a lot of problems to.

 

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[Trader]

the starter gears are not actually bolted in place and it is possible that they can actually just drop out when the case is opened if you "hook" them when removing the case. They are just sitting on pins. You might want to be sure the gears are all in there and connected to each other.

 

It happened to me.

 

Obviously if you've lost a gear then things aren't going to work.

 

I know when I re installed my toe shifter I had it with the arm pointing down...resulting in the shift issues you have.

 

Easy fix.

 

So...as suggested, just re-orient the shifter on the spline 180 degrees from where you have it.

[nibejeebies]

So we got the shifter back into place and everything works fine save no electric start. Starts fine if bump or push starts... So I'm assuming that by the way you discribed it the starter is actually inside that sator cover? Or is inside the smaller cover just behind it

[nibejeebies]

Okay so I have narrowed down where the click is coming from and it's the starter relay to the left of the battery if you sitting on it, it seems to be getting good power.

Battery tests at 12.6

Called yahama who stated that the click normally means that that relay is working but to use a screw driver and attempt to jump the connections and start, the only thing we got out of the was a arch. So wont be doing that again. I've attempted to trace the ground which appears to be solid but I was unable to trace completely with out removing one full side of plastics. Is there a work around to this?

Could the non start be coming from something else?

 

Note that we can push (bump) start and ride or idol until we shut it off and seems to be shifting perfectly....

[Flyinfool]

When you replaced the side cover, did you use a new gasket or just a sealer.

You must use a gasket to get proper spacing for the starter gears. If you just use sealant the gears will bind and the starter will not turn it over.

[nibejeebies]

When you replaced the side cover, did you use a new gasket or just a sealer.

You must use a gasket to get proper spacing for the starter gears. If you just use sealant the gears will bind and the starter will not turn it over.

 

 

Figures... this is more than likely my problem then... now I start the quest to find a gasket then that can be overnighted. thank you Fliyinfool and everyone with your advice and tips... this is the first motorcycle I have owned (not rode lol) and being a Paramedic, the human body mechanics is my forte not auto/motorcycle mechanics.

 

All your tips and advice is greatly appreciated.

[dingy]

Figures... this is more than likely my problem then... now I start the quest to find a gasket then that can be overnighted. thank you Fliyinfool and everyone with your advice and tips... this is the first motorcycle I have owned (not rode lol) and being a Paramedic, the human body mechanics is my forte not auto/motorcycle mechanics.

 

All your tips and advice is greatly appreciated.

 

 

How bad you need one?

 

I have a new stator cover gasket and an overnight shipping flat rate envelope.

 

I could ship it tomorrow, and you would have it Thursday.

 

$35.00, with paypal.

 

 

Gary

[dingy]

I also have an extra after market (Athena) middle drive cover gasket, $5.00 more.

 

You are going to have to pull middle cover off to get stator cover off.

 

Gary