helomech Posted December 6, 2006 #1 Posted December 6, 2006 Well it looks as if my battery is belly-up. What are the opinions on replacement batteries for the 1st gens? I'd like to go maintenance free if possible, but looking for the bang-for-the-buck factor. Don't want to throw a wad of cash out, but will spend a bit more for a better battery. Also, does anyone have a good way to do a load test on a battery to make sure if it is the problem or not? I could hook up a 12 volt load to it, but I have no idea how long it should last. The battery reads 13 volts after a couple of nights on the battery minder jr, but won't crank the starter more than a couple of revs before the relays chatter. Fluid levels are good, battery light is off. I ran a new cable I made out of heavy guage aircraft electrical wire to the starter. I've looked at the archives, but I think many good battery threads, must have been lost back in the crash. The dang electrical problems ended my season early, and I want this thing running well before spring. Any other ideas will be appreciated.
Condor Posted December 6, 2006 #2 Posted December 6, 2006 I'm kinda partial to the Odyssy 680. A little expensive going in, but in the long run it works out to be less.
Kurt Posted December 7, 2006 #3 Posted December 7, 2006 You can use an automotive load tester if you can get your hands on one. I saw an Auto Value flyer with some on special in there. They are kind of handy as you can also check charging systems. I have an Interstate battery in my 90 with a wire to trick the warning light. I put a gel battery from Batteries Plus in my 3 wheeler and that performs better than any I have used before. I figure a good battery is a good investment. Here is a link to a tester like I am referring to. Just one I happened upon when I did a quick search. Looks alot like the one I have. http://www.automotivepartsnetwork.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=79&idproduct=7339
Guest Fly-N-Lo Posted December 7, 2006 #4 Posted December 7, 2006 Hey Helo, Just a thought...My '90 VR did the same when I first bought it this past August. Everything worked as it should (radio's, lights, ect.) but the starter would drag. I put it on a 3A charger over night, rode it for 15 minutes, and the starter would not turn over. Bought a brand new battery thinking it wasn't holding a charge...nope still the same thing. After calling my Yamaha dealer and reading a few posts here, it turned out to be the starter. Seems some 1st gen starter amatures have a tendancy to corrode therefore when they get hot (mounted between the front headers) they don't work. 2 hours, 3 beers, and 4 busted knuckles later she turns over like new. Even after 3 to 4 hour rides.
Squidley Posted December 7, 2006 #5 Posted December 7, 2006 I'm kinda partial to the Odyssy 680. A little expensive going in, but in the long run it works out to be less. I put a 680 in the bike we did for Charlie and it worked out pretty well. I know Freebird has an oddesy in his '99 for about 4 years now with no problems
dray Posted December 7, 2006 #6 Posted December 7, 2006 auto zone will do a load test for free or you can get your self a load tester for around $30. I think I have seen them at walmart too:080402gudl_prv:
Gearhead Posted December 7, 2006 #7 Posted December 7, 2006 After you charge the battery, let it rest for a day or so then measure the voltage. A healthy, fully-charged batt will have about 12.7 volts. If after charging and resting you have significantly less than that, you have a problem. Also, connect a volt meter to the batt and measure while cranking (or attempting to). If you are down to relay clattering, your voltage is pretty low - I'd guess 8 volts or so. If you measure something like that at the batt, it is the problem. If, OTOH, you measure good voltage at the batt under these conditions, you have a voltage drop somewhere else, like in the cables, solenoid or even the starter itself as has been suggested already. Jeremy
hipshot Posted December 8, 2006 #8 Posted December 8, 2006 helomech, my 86, was acting sluggish after i put in a new interstate battery,last year. i ran a second, heavier, GROUND wire to the frame, cleaned the original ground, and that cured my problems. inexpensive test, to determine if your ground is weak or faulty. just jt
Yammer Dan Posted December 8, 2006 #9 Posted December 8, 2006 I got lucky at Sam's Club when they were discontinuning (can't Spell) a brand but think I will try gel next time.
Skid Posted December 8, 2006 #10 Posted December 8, 2006 I used an Interstate Battery, works good, lasts good, it comes with the battery sensor too...
reelay Posted December 10, 2006 #11 Posted December 10, 2006 got a gel battery from westco batteries off their web site 5 years ago still works fine. you might check them out as i recall was about 80.00 with free shipping. i am in ohio got it in 3 days. good luck lee
GeorgeS Posted December 18, 2006 #12 Posted December 18, 2006 Another thing to check for starting problems. On the original yamaha cables, check the studs for being Crimped , AND Soldered. I found that 3 of the studs were crimped and soldered. However the stud at the Starter, was Only Crimped, it had not been soldered. And it was beginning to Corrode. Adding a ground wire to the Starter frame is also a good idea. Also, remove the Ground cable from right frt corner of engine, check the bold threads for corrosion. ( Mine was corroded !! ) Also check the connections on the Starter solinoid, and consider replaceing it on high millage first Gens.
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