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Made another attempt to fix the carb overflow problem and failed. I'm just getting tired of spending so much time and energy on this. I have so much to do around the house for nothing got done last summer do to my accident.

 

I've gotten a good procedure on the removal process so being that the 91 VR is nearly stripped I will work on removing the carbs from it. Clean up the 91 carbs. Then being that I should know the removal process I will then remove the carbs of the 89 VR. Then install the 91 carbs and see what happens.

 

If it doesn't run, I may just sell it for parts and go back to enjoying playing golf. That was my interest before I got the bike bug back in 2010.

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Yes, body damage has a way of interfereing with home maintenance for sure.

Not to worry, there's always another riding season. I recall a summer in the 1990's that was cancelled due to rain. I had planned several outings, but all were rained out. So, I did those tours the next summer. The window of opportunity remains open for a short time here in the PNW, then slams shut before one knows it.

Not once did I consider trashing the idea of mc riding. Keep the faith Brian.........:fingers-crossed-emo

-Pete, in Tacoma WA USA

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I love to play golf myself did not start til I was in my 40's. Used to make fun of the people I would see playing because how hard could it be RIGHT.( LOL ) I was invited by co-workers out for a round & how hard could it be, smack a little ball put it in the cup and move on easy right. First time out playing on a executive 9 hole course I shot a 256. I thought R U kidding me I can do better then that and I was hooked. It's a game that relaxes me and can never be won just played. Best game I ever shot was a 77 and after figuring I had this game down the next day I shot a 160. I love to play I am a 100 player ± 5 now and know I have hit my peak. LOL

 

I also love to ride the VENTURE so I feel for you. I think in your shoes I would golf and work on the bike a little at a time. jmo Have a great summer.......Ron

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If it doesn't run, I may just sell it for parts and go back to enjoying playing golf. That was my interest before I got the bike bug back in 2010.

If the "fire is not in your belly" for riding anymore, Brian, it is understandable. But the overflowing carbs should not be a deal breaker.

There are only a few things that would be the cause for the overflow:

1. stuck float needle valve(s) (rap on the carbs with a stick, dowel or screwdriver handle).

2. stuck float needle valves (maybe gummed up from sitting, dare I say, Seafoam?)

3. stuck float needle valves (perhaps the floats are sunken?)

4. debris in the float needle valve seat (drain the carb bowls and flush the seat out by running the fuel pump.)

Don't despair, Brian, this too can be overcome.

Go golf a round and take another look at the Venture in a few days.

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I love to play golf myself did not start til I was in my 40's. Used to make fun of the people I would see playing because how hard could it be RIGHT.( LOL ) I was invited by co-workers out for a round & how hard could it be, smack a little ball put it in the cup and move on easy right. First time out playing on a executive 9 hole course I shot a 256. I thought R U kidding me I can do better then that and I was hooked. It's a game that relaxes me and can never be won just played. Best game I ever shot was a 77 and after figuring I had this game down the next day I shot a 160. I love to play I am a 100 player ± 5 now and know I have hit my peak. LOL

 

I also love to ride the VENTURE so I feel for you. I think in your shoes I would golf and work on the bike a little at a time. jmo Have a great summer.......Ron

 

Thank You Ron. So your from Las Vegas, my m/c accident was on SR266 East bound near mile marker 27. The crew did a very poor job of gathering all of my wreckage. Someday I'd like to go back to the exact spot with a rake and a metal detector just for fun. On a cool day of course.

 

As for golf, I too would tease people chasing a white ball. I started when I was 50, got the bug. Got to connect with a lot of nice people and I love the local tournaments. I love the competition and the pressure of the tournaments. Thanks for the encouragement for both golf&venture.

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Brian,

While SOMETIMES I get frustrated working on these cantankerous old bikes, I found that I was ALWAYS frustrated playing golf. Relaxing?! Not for me. I'd get so mad at myself (I discovered you can't get mad at anybody else while playing golf, it is all about yourself) that there have been some bent club shafts and even some drowned clubs, not to mention the expensive balls forever lost.

I'll take an overflowing carb any day over a "relaxing" round of golf. We can fix your bike. No one can fix my golf game.

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Well I know I cant offer any more advise then you have already gotten. But for my two cents :2cents: I'd bet you have stuck needle vale(s). Nine times out of ten that's the problem. What I did to fix it on my 83 XJ750K is pull the carbs. The carbs on the XJ require a lot of pulling twisting to get out and a 2X4 to get back in. :bang head: These carbs are a dream to remove and put back. Anyway back to my fix. Remove the needle valves. You know the ones that are connected to the carb floats. Now either replace with new ones OR get some 1500 grit emery cloth and sand the corners a little. then replace them and turn the carb to the position it would be if on the bike and see if the needle falls out on its own. It should, after you have done this with ALL of them set/check the fuel levels with the carbs set perfectly flat. As if they where mounted on the bike and hook up a fuel source, gravity feed. Then check to see if the fuel level is correct. If the levels are set right there should be no fuel flow out of cabs if the float needle valves are working. I would try this first before I did anything else as sticking float needle vales are the biggest cause of your problem.:smash2: If you weren't so far away I'd be over there like a shot and help you fix them up.:D

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Brian,

While SOMETIMES I get frustrated working on these cantankerous old bikes, I found that I was ALWAYS frustrated playing golf. Relaxing?! Not for me. I'd get so mad at myself (I discovered you can't get mad at anybody else while playing golf, it is all about yourself) that there have been some bent club shafts and even some drowned clubs, not to mention the expensive balls forever lost.

I'll take an overflowing carb any day over a "relaxing" round of golf. We can fix your bike. No one can fix my golf game.

 

Well 10 years ago when I took up golfing I quickly played 5 rounds of 18 to establish a temp handicap then 5 more games for an official 41 GHIN handicap. Now that is bad golfing, and I had fun in the next 10 years working the 41 down to a 26. Lots of bad golfing, but I was ok with it for I had a hugh handicap. I played in many of local tournaments. Great fun no matter how bad I was golfing. But when the Venture runs bad or not at all. That is not fun. Hmmm. Maybe I should think about a fuel injection bike. What kind of issues does one run not when a fuel injection bike sits for say 6 months.

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Maybe I should think about a fuel injection bike. What kind of issues does one run not when a fuel injection bike sits for say 6 months.
Can't talk about a fuel injection bike but my 95 Mustang is fuel injected and it has been sitting in my back yard or in my carport for about 6 years without being driven depending on where it is out of the way. I put some Seafoam in the tank and disconnected the battery. It starts and runs just fine anytime I have to move it. Expect you are not planning to leave a bike alone for that long so would probably be just fine.
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my Victory sat for 6 months in an unheated garage in freezing temps, with no added fuel stabilizer ( wasn't much gas in it) and no battery tender......started right up! the Venture took a week to get going! still trying to get it running right. it gets frustrating at times. so after I work on the Venture for awhile, I take out the Vic.

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I have been following this thread with interest. I have a similar problem. Carbs have been cleaned professionally and installed in my 87 venture.( Second time! ) But there is a great puddle of gas under the bike! Yes, float valves. Where can a person get new seats and needles? Or repair what I have? Or is there a trick to setting the floats ?

My friend is very frustrated with himself and the bike! Third time out( carbs) and he doesn't want to work on them without having new pieces. Help?

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Thank You Ron. So your from Las Vegas, my m/c accident was on SR266 East bound near mile marker 27. The crew did a very poor job of gathering all of my wreckage. Someday I'd like to go back to the exact spot with a rake and a metal detector just for fun. On a cool day of course.

 

As for golf, I too would tease people chasing a white ball. I started when I was 50, got the bug. Got to connect with a lot of nice people and I love the local tournaments. I love the competition and the pressure of the tournaments. Thanks for the encouragement for both golf&venture.

 

I just got to wondering Brian.... Being a golf nut from the Seattle area would you happen to know Jerry and Diane Brugler?? They are my son-in-law's parents and are golf nutz. They're from the Tacoma area. I also understand their 5 y.o. grandson swings a pretty mean club...

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Where can a person get new seats and needles?

Here:

http://tinyurl.com/m3wayko

 

Here:

http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/yamaha/Y-1FK-14190-15-00.html

 

A competent mechanic would have replaced these components if, in fact, the carbs were "cleaned professionally".

Besides the obvious wearing of the needle and seat causing leak by, the O-ring surrounding the seat will dry out and crack or shrink also causing fuel to leak past the valve, overflowing the bowl.

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I just got to wondering Brian.... Being a golf nut from the Seattle area would you happen to know Jerry and Diane Brugler?? They are my son-in-law's parents and are golf nutz. They're from the Tacoma area. I also understand their 5 y.o. grandson swings a pretty mean club...

 

 

Sorry Jack, don't know them, but I'll put their name in my golf bag cause one can't help meet new people when golfing. It is just the nature of the game.

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