P/N or make/model for vacuum pump connector

[csdexter]

Hi there,

 

I tried searching the forum, the OEM docs (yeah, right, "docs" :-( !) and EasternBeaver's inventory but I didn't find the connector used for the cruise control vacuum pump.

 

It's not the same as the ones used for the cruise control unit or the TCI, the alignment of the spades is different: the ones on TCI and cruise box are horizontal with the lock at 12 o'clock whereas the vacuum pump ones are vertical when viewed the same.

 

The locking tab on mine broke off and now the connector is ejecting itself from its mate on the pump while riding due to vibration. I need to buy a new one and replace it, but can't find where :-(

 

Pictures, if it helps, follow. Male part, on pump (hi-res):

http://gallery.dexter.linux360.ro/d/11818-2/IMG_20130704_113754.jpg

 

Female part, on harness (hi-res):

http://gallery.dexter.linux360.ro/d/11821-2/IMG_20130704_113805.jpg

 

 

Any help, pointers or hints would be greatly appreciated,

Thanks.

[M61A1MECH]

That looks like a Delphi connector, as soon as I can get to my personal computer I will send you some links to folks I have been dealing with for my harness connectors.

In the mean time try taking a ty-wrap around the fixed side and trap two other ty-wraps under the first one before you cinch it down, these will act as straps, loosely wrap a 4th ty-wrap around the flying lead and mate the flying lead to the fixed connector, put the 2 ty-wrap straps thru the loose ty-wrap and cinch it up, now put the ends of the strap ty-wraps thru their respective heads and cinch them up. That should hold you for a good long time. Provided you can get in there to do all of that.

 

Here are some links that could be helpful, I think KOJAY is your best bet, plus they are on your side of the pond.

 

http://kojaycat.co.uk/epages/950000457.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950000457/Products/RFW-4WF

http://terminalsupplyco.com/Store/Default.aspx?CAT=TERM070&PCAT=54221#Categories

http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/index.php/cPath/109_222_225

 

Good luck

Edited July 4, 2013 by M61A1MECH
added links to possible suppliers

[csdexter]

Thanks for replying, M61A1MECH, however none of those are what I'm looking for.

 

The first link points to a Furukawa RFW 4P090 female connector which has the locking wedge on the inside (mine has it on the outside) and the terminals horizontal when viewed with the lock at 12 o'clock (mine has them vertical).

 

The second link points to a range of Deutsch connectors, as used on current Harleys and never ever used on Japanese bikes :-)

 

The third link shows an assortment of Delphi/Packard connectors which are obviously different than mine.

 

 

Your suggestion about lacing the connector down is very good, however I would prefer I did a proper job and replaced the connector. I got the bike with a lot of patchwork on it and spent some three months removing/restoring all the crappy quick-fixes that were on it -- don't plan on going back on that

 

I'll keep digging Sumitomo's site.

[M61A1MECH]

You may try digging into the parent sites of the links I posted, like KOYJAY, they have a wide variety of connectors available, I just grabbed one page that looked a little promising.

[dingy]

Take a look at this web site. This guy is member on VMax site and can get most connectors for our bikes. If you don't see what you want on site, contact him. I know he is going through growing pains getting site set up. He is a good person to deal with.

 

http://www.myconnectorstore.com/Products.html?view=category&virtuemart_category_id=275

 

Gary

Edited July 4, 2013 by dingy

[csdexter]

No luck so far. Closest matches (but still far), are:

http://swsct.sws.co.jp/components/en/housing.asp?number_s=61890126tss

http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co.jp/yazaki-web/servlet/SubServlet_e?forward=7283-8558-10&plist=list&select=15

http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co.jp/yazaki-web/servlet/SubServlet_e?forward=7283-8559-30&plist=list&select=15

 

Thanks for the pointer, dingy. I'll contact the guy and ask, the site is indeed a pain so it makes sense he's going through pains to set it up

 

There is a slim chance it's a custom connector I'll never find for sale, just like you can't find the (e.g.) audio amp/radio box at a Clarion outlet. Japanese bikes are, for the most part, parts bin projects -- but, every now and then, nothing fits and so either Yamaha or some other Japanese contractor coughs up a totally one-of-a-kind custom part.

 

If that's the case, I'll have to use single 0.110" female blade terminals to hook things up. The Hitachi-style 0.110" 4-way connector is too small and doesn't fit the pitch.

 

In a normal world, I would go on the pump manufacturer's site and check what they recommend as the mating connector P/N ... but when I moved it from the smashed engine guard to the new one, I couldn't find any writings on the pump. Maybe I should look closer ...

 

LE: I should also look closer at the connector itself, who knows?

Edited July 4, 2013 by csdexter
More info

[csdexter]

The good news is I fixed my initial symptom and now my cruise control works again :-) The rear brake connector was not seated completely in its mate on the switch and it so happened that the pair of contacts driving the stop lamp were making contact, while the other pair that's controlling the cruise was not. Cleaned, reseated and all is fine now.

 

The bad news is the overall question remains and I couldn't find any more info on the mysterious connector on the vacuum pump. If it ever fails completely, I'll have to patch it with single 0.110" or 0.090" female terminals dressed in heatshrink.

[csdexter]

The good news is, :-) , after playing Sherlock Holmes for a bit, I found it. It's made by Mitsubishi Electric (or Cable and Connectors, depending on who you ask), same company that made the pump itself.

 

It's a NMWP connector sporting 2.3mm (0.090") terminals. The (female) housing is P/N PB625-04027, the locking wedge is P/N PB875-04900, the (female) terminals are P/N MT095-63080 (20-24AWG) and P/N MT095-63280 (14-18AWG) and the wire seals are P/N RS220-0[1234]600 (24/20/18/14 AWG).

 

The bad news is nobody (officially) makes a clone or compatible one (it predates the era when multiple source agreements became fashionable), and Mitsubishi will only sell it by the million :-(

[dingy]

I sent a PM to connector guy on VMax site.. I gave him a direct link to manufacturer & equal. See if he gets back to me.

 

Gary

[csdexter]

Thanks for all the help, maybe something good will come out of this :-)

 

If it helps, here's the datasheet (credits go to waybackmachine.org for keeping a rather accurate copy of the Internet from the past :-) ).