99-pres heel toe needed.

[Condor]

This is a 1stGen issue, but it's gonna take a 2ndGen part to cure the problem.... OK guys, be nice.... The heel toe arm on the Ventureline H/T on my '91 has about 9" between the pads. Too small of a spread. the pads actually sit over the floorboard and don't extend past the board like a 2ndGen's. The 2ndGen's shifter arm has a 13" span. I'd like to see if I can adapt one off a 2nd to make room for my big foot. I think it might fit. So..... if anyone has a used pedal arm laying around they no longer need I'd like to buy it off you.... Thanks.

[Rich99]

This is a 1stGen issue, but it's gonna take a 2ndGen part to cure the problem.... OK guys, be nice.... The heel toe arm on the Ventureline H/T on my '91 has about 9" between the pads. Too small of a spread. the pads actually sit over the floorboard and don't extend past the board like a 2ndGen's. The 2ndGen's shifter arm has a 13" span. I'd like to see if I can adapt one off a 2nd to make room for my big foot. I think it might fit. So..... if anyone has a used pedal arm laying around they no longer need I'd like to buy it off you.... Thanks.

Should have gotten this out before Brad let his baby go. Oh well, theres bound to be another one out there some place.

[Carbon_One]

This is a 1stGen issue, but it's gonna take a 2ndGen part to cure the problem.... OK guys, be nice.... The heel toe arm on the Ventureline H/T on my '91 has about 9" between the pads. Too small of a spread. the pads actually sit over the floorboard and don't extend past the board like a 2ndGen's. The 2ndGen's shifter arm has a 13" span. I'd like to see if I can adapt one off a 2nd to make room for my big foot. I think it might fit. So..... if anyone has a used pedal arm laying around they no longer need I'd like to buy it off you.... Thanks.

 

 

I've got an extra one laying here collecting dust. Pay the shipping costs and it's yours. Either pm or e-mail me your address.

Larry

[Condor]

Should have gotten this out before Brad let his baby go. Oh well, theres bound to be another one out there some place.

 

Yeah, thought of that, however it looks like Carbon_One has found one instead.

You've got a PM Larry. Thanks......

[gibvel]

I think the problem that will keep the 2nd gen. shifter lever from working on the 1st gen. will be the stator cover. I believe, unless you space the shifter out from the engine quite a bit, it will end up hitting the stator cover. I was looking at mine thinking "why didn't they make the space between the pads longer" and that's the conclusion I came up with.

 

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[Condor]

I think the problem that will keep the 2nd gen. shifter lever from working on the 1st gen. will be the stator cover. I believe, unless you space the shifter out from the engine quite a bit, it will end up hitting the stator cover. I was looking at mine thinking "why didn't they make the space between the pads longer" and that's the conclusion I came up with.

 

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Yeah, I looked at that, and some pics of a second gen, and that may be the case, but we'll never know unless we try. The sides of the 1st and 2nd motor are basically the same configuration, and I feel the arms may be close, and a little persuading might get it to settle in where the old one went. The board sizes look very similar also. Time will tell....??

[gibvel]

Okay, I went and did some measuring. It might work fit wise, as far as clearing the stator cover. From the pivot point the 2nd gen. shifter goes about 4" forward and then jogs to the left about 1 1/2". By my measuring that should clear the stator cover. The front end of the shifter may be close to the engine guard as well so if your toe hangs over the shifter pedal you may hit the engine guard when shifting.

 

Now the, maybe, not so good news. As you can see, from the attached photo, the rear of the shifter goes back about 2" and then jogs TOWARD the engine about 1 1/4". It also extends back about 8 1/2 inches. It will be close to the engine and close to the passenger floorboard. If you've got a passenger with their foot on the floorboard that may be a bit of a problem if their foot is hanging off of the board toward the front. Don't know if it would be a problem but just wanted to bring that up as a possible.

 

Also, notice the point where the shift linkage connects to the pedal. It's about 1 1/4 farther forward than the one on mine (mine connects directly under the pivot point on my 89. So you'll have to lose about 1 1/4" off of the linkage. On my 89 the total linkage length, from where the linkage connects to the pedal to where it connects to the shift shaft is approximately 4".

 

So there you have what I've measured and what I suspect the problems might be. If you'd like for me to make any more measurements of anything let me know.

[Carbon_One]

The steel on these shifters isn't that hard and can be bent some so if you only need to tweak it a bit to clear I think you'll be oK. You'll know soon enough for sure once you get that shifter sometime mid-week Condor.

Larry

[Bartley]

Man.....I've been asking for one of these shifters since Nov.15/07 (see Want to Buy in classifieds) If anyone else has one they don't need, let me know. I'm interested. Thanks!

[Condor]

The steel on these shifters isn't that hard and can be bent some so if you only need to tweak it a bit to clear I think you'll be oK. You'll know soon enough for sure once you get that shifter sometime mid-week Condor.

Larry

 

That's what I'm thinking. Plus the linkage on the 2nd sets ahead of the stator case while the 1st sets aft. We'll see once I get to reshaping it. I don't expect it to fit right from the git-go, but close is a good thing.....

[Condor]

So there you have what I've measured and what I suspect the problems might be. If you'd like for me to make any more measurements of anything let me know.

 

Thanks for the input Mark. Once I start messing with the arm we'll see how it goes. Ideas and feedback are always appreciated.... I'll let you know what I run into.

[Carbon_One]

Man.....I've been asking for one of these shifters since Nov.15/07 (see Want to Buy in classifieds) If anyone else has one they don't need, let me know. I'm interested. Thanks!

 

Sorry Bartley I didn't see your request long ago or you would of gotten this one back then.

Hope someone else has one for you soon.

Larry

[Carbon_One]

Ok Bartley pm or e-mail me your address and you get the shifter. Condor has someone else giving him one you so get this one after all.

Larry