okscooter Posted February 10, 2008 #1 Posted February 10, 2008 Can anybody tell me how to identify a California emission model Venture from a non-emission one? I imagine it has some extra evaporative canisters and plumbing on it. Are the emission goodies visible without pulling plastic? Any help would be appreciated.
Gone14S Posted February 10, 2008 #2 Posted February 10, 2008 The only real way that Ca. DMV will accept it as a Ca. EPA bike is the sticker. This is located under the seat on most bikes Or the frame near the motor, There is a big Vac, box sitting over the front head. There is a canister near the fuel tank. These would bew the easy to look for. Kurt
cmiles3 Posted February 10, 2008 #3 Posted February 10, 2008 If it's a California model, it will have a C at the end of the model number. My '87 is an XVZ1300T, if it was a CA model it would be a XVZ1300TC. May not help if you can't find the label.
Condor Posted February 10, 2008 #4 Posted February 10, 2008 I currently have 4 1stGens. One from out of state..TX, one originally from N.Mex, and 2 from here in CA '83/'87. None of them are canistered and the DMV never checked when I registered them here in the state. MOF I had to take the TX bike down to the DMV to have it inspected, and since the inspector couldn't find the EPA lable, he just said the heck with it and ran the papers as is. I think since bikes are exempt from the bi-yearly smog check requirement it really doesn't make any difference and the DMV looks in another direction.....
Gone14S Posted February 10, 2008 #5 Posted February 10, 2008 I currently have 4 1stGens. One from out of state..TX, one originally from N.Mex, and 2 from here in CA '83/'87. None of them are canistered and the DMV never checked when I registered them here in the state. MOF I had to take the TX bike down to the DMV to have it inspected, and since the inspector couldn't find the EPA lable, he just said the heck with it and ran the papers as is. I think since bikes are exempt from the bi-yearly smog check requirement it really doesn't make any difference and the DMV looks in another direction..... I found this to be true also. If they do anuthing with this old of bikes they just check the motor ID and the VIN. Kurt
okscooter Posted February 10, 2008 Author #6 Posted February 10, 2008 Thanks for the replies! Not really worried about emissions as far as inspections, we don't sniff tailpipes on bikes or autos in Oklahoma. Heck, don't have state inspections either, still the wild west here. Was really wondering if you can tell if its a Callyfornia bike by eyeballing it. The title should have a "C" at the end of the model number on the title like cmiles3 stated, I'll look for that. Can the emissions be easily removed if it has it?
mbrood Posted February 10, 2008 #7 Posted February 10, 2008 I bought my bike out of state and brought it here. I had a 26 year old female DMV inspector look and look for the "EPA" sticker... said I was going to have to put the "emissions" equipment BACK ON. I even had the owners manual that shows all the proper stickers. She wasn't going to go for it so I asked for her supervisor. Another female came out... a bit older but not a lot... looked at the paperwork, looked at the manufacture date (86), checked the chassis and engine VIN and passed me through. I understand that the California "version" was required to sell NEW in the state of LaLaLand. Basically just a vapor canister for fuel vapor! Sounds like a rather poor joke at best.
Condor Posted February 10, 2008 #8 Posted February 10, 2008 Was really wondering if you can tell if its a Callyfornia bike by eyeballing it. The title should have a "C" at the end of the model number on the title like cmiles3 stated, I'll look for that. Can the emissions be easily removed if it has it? I can't tell the difference, but I did actually see a canister in the wild once. Removing it was probably the first thing a new owner did.... It's just a matter of pulling the hoses off the manafold bibs and putting caps on them except for #2 which has a hose that leads to the vacuum booster on all models except the '83.
Deltarat Posted February 11, 2008 #9 Posted February 11, 2008 My 89 still has the canister, haven't felt the need to remove it yet.
dragerman Posted February 11, 2008 #10 Posted February 11, 2008 Can anybody tell me how to identify a California emission model Venture from a non-emission one? I imagine it has some extra evaporative canisters and plumbing on it. Are the emission goodies visible without pulling plastic? Any help would be appreciated. Here's the link... it shouldn't be too hard to spot!! http://www.chooseyouritem.com/jokes/wfhm.html The only thing missing are the afterburners!
Condor Posted February 11, 2008 #11 Posted February 11, 2008 My 89 still has the canister, haven't felt the need to remove it yet. All the canister does is suck gas fumes into it when the engine is turned off and allows the engine to pull those fumes back in when started. My feelings are that the canister doesn't make an engine run better or worse...when new, but over the years all those old extra hoses and connections create a potential place for intake air leaks to occur. The canisters are ancient carb technology. I'd remove it if the bike has one. IMHO....
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