Godlover Posted April 13, 2013 #1 Posted April 13, 2013 I got my non-running 96 Royal Star this morning. Turn on the ignition and fuel pump clicks so I assume it isn't the kill switch. In fact, if I hit the kill switch the fuel pump quits clicking. Push starter button and have nothing. New battery. Where would you start?
muffinman Posted April 13, 2013 #2 Posted April 13, 2013 Check to see if you have power going to the solenoid at the small wire when pressing start switch also check with meter to see if you are getting power to the starter it may be locked up I have seen that The solenoid may be bad Jeff
Rick Haywood Posted April 14, 2013 #3 Posted April 14, 2013 I got my non-running 96 Royal Star this morning. Turn on the ignition and fuel pump clicks so I assume it isn't the kill switch. In fact, if I hit the kill switch the fuel pump quits clicking. Push starter button and have nothing. New battery. Where would you start? Wow seems just like a couple of weeks ago I had the same problem, kickstand safety switch is where I'd look first.
abusive throttle cranker Posted April 14, 2013 #4 Posted April 14, 2013 That or the fuses. If it was dirty connections you would at least get clicking.
Godlover Posted April 14, 2013 Author #5 Posted April 14, 2013 Checked fuses. One of the 30 amp on the solenoid (the M side) is loose and almost falls out. Other than that the fuses check out. How does one check the kick stand switch?
Wade 2000 Posted April 14, 2013 #6 Posted April 14, 2013 As mentioned simple things first fuses, where you have power and where you don't next would be switch, kill switch, kickstand then starter, solenoid. If those fail you may check if you can manually turn the motor over.... My $.02
abusive throttle cranker Posted April 14, 2013 #7 Posted April 14, 2013 I'm not familiar with the 2nd gen but I bet the kickstand switch is just a simple contact switch. If you have an electrical tester current should flow when the plunger is pushed in. 2 wires right?
GeorgeS Posted April 14, 2013 #8 Posted April 14, 2013 Be sure to do continuity check of the Main Ignition Switch. Pull tank, two 6 inche pigtails comeing from the Ignition Switch. Open plugs, and do continuity check thru the two sets of contacts in the ignition switch. Failed ignition Switch, " on , off " contacts are common.
Yammer Dan Posted April 14, 2013 #9 Posted April 14, 2013 If I remember right get down there and push switch in for quick check. Or is it pull it out? Anyway you can figure out which way it needs to go and use screwdriver to help it. You will be able to tell if it is sticking.
Condor Posted April 14, 2013 #10 Posted April 14, 2013 Ahhh... I first start by toggling the kill switch back and forth a bunch of times to make sure the contacts aren't dirty...??
GeorgeS Posted April 14, 2013 #11 Posted April 14, 2013 Ahhh... I first start by toggling the kill switch back and forth a bunch of times to make sure the contacts aren't dirty...?? As " Condor " said, Red Switch, is a common problem. Did you check for Loose battery terminal connections ?? Check all the fuse's !! There are lots of fuse's, !! Get the book out, to find them.
Godlover Posted April 15, 2013 Author #12 Posted April 15, 2013 I check the ignition switch and it seems good. I am not too great at figuring out electrical so I'm not sure about where to go next. I am thinking about just replacing the solenoid as they aren't that expensive. There are 2 30 amp fuses on the solenoid, do they both function or is one a spare? The one on the M sided is very loose and falls out. I sprayed the kickstand switch and the plunger works fine. Some one suggestion that I should try to turn the motor over by hand, how does one do that? I am not overly confident in trouble shooting....can you tell?
Douginflorida Posted April 15, 2013 #13 Posted April 15, 2013 Have you determined that the battery is fully charged? No offense but maybe try a jump start. My kill switch malfuntioned once,(I had strong lights,battery was good)it made a light click when trying to start it...I toggled the heck out of it,switching on off many times,then it caught...Dirty contacts I thought on mine...It's been good ever since?? Good Luck
Godlover Posted April 18, 2013 Author #14 Posted April 18, 2013 I just replaced the solenoid and new the solenoid clicks which it didn't do before. I measured battery voltage and it is 11 volts. Not sure that's enough to start it so I put my charger on it. I tried to taking the side cover to see if the engine will turn over but a previous owner stripped out the Phillips screw.
Condor Posted April 18, 2013 #15 Posted April 18, 2013 I just replaced the solenoid and new the solenoid clicks which it didn't do before. I measured battery voltage and it is 11 volts. Not sure that's enough to start it so I put my charger on it. I tried to taking the side cover to see if the engine will turn over but a previous owner stripped out the Phillips screw. 11vdc is a dead battery....
dacheedah Posted April 18, 2013 #16 Posted April 18, 2013 could be your ignition switch, if it goes bad will work for accy but not run
Flyinfool Posted April 18, 2013 #17 Posted April 18, 2013 I just replaced the solenoid and new the solenoid clicks which it didn't do before. I measured battery voltage and it is 11 volts. Not sure that's enough to start it so I put my charger on it. I tried to taking the side cover to see if the engine will turn over but a previous owner stripped out the Phillips screw. Make sure all of the battery and starter cables have clean terminals both ends. Don't forget the ground side. just because the LOOK clean does not mean they are, clean them with a wire brush. Now that the battery has had a few hours of charge did that make a difference? What happens to the battery voltage when you press the start button?
Godlover Posted April 19, 2013 Author #18 Posted April 19, 2013 Cleaned the cables. Pulled the plugs and found one was missing! I think the guy I got it from went through some of this same stuff and fried the solenoid trying to jump the wires. At least I have that taken care of. I tried to rock the bike to see if the engine turns but the tire slid on my slick garage floor. It was raining so I didn't go out to the driveway. I suspect starter or engine seized. Is there a post on the steps to remove the starter? I won't get back to it until next week Thanks
dacheedah Posted April 19, 2013 #19 Posted April 19, 2013 I would put it in neutral and try to turn with a socket, that will rule out drivetrain issue, still sounds like dead battery
Godlover Posted April 19, 2013 Author #20 Posted April 19, 2013 I can't get the plate off, they stripped the head of the screw! New battery #2
eusa1 Posted April 19, 2013 #21 Posted April 19, 2013 My bet is a hydrolocked motor. How over full is the oil in the oil level window?
Godlover Posted April 19, 2013 Author #22 Posted April 19, 2013 My bet is a hydrolocked motor. How over full is the oil in the oil level window? What is that and how do you fix?
playboy Posted April 19, 2013 #23 Posted April 19, 2013 Pull all four plugs and put it in gear and try rocking it. If it will roll in neutral I would think that would rule out any drive train issues.
playboy Posted April 19, 2013 #24 Posted April 19, 2013 If I'm correct hydrolock would be where there is excessive fluid on top of the pistons specifically the cylinder with the valves closed.
eusa1 Posted April 19, 2013 #25 Posted April 19, 2013 What is that and how do you fix? Had a nice talk with you on the phone mark Try and get at least 1 ride in before you trade it off!! Mike
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