Condor Posted April 3, 2013 #1 Posted April 3, 2013 One of the big differences between the 1st and 2nd gen bikes, and not discussed very often, is the front fairing mount. The 1st is frame mounted, and the 2nd is fork mounted. Which one is best and why??.
XV1100SE Posted April 3, 2013 #2 Posted April 3, 2013 My understanding.... Frame mounted fairing : - less affected by winds turning the front wheel Fork mounted fairing : - headlight points in direction you are turning
bongobobny Posted April 3, 2013 #3 Posted April 3, 2013 I like fixed fairing for the rear view mirrors. Almost had a serious accident with the 2nd gen making a turn. Looked over my shoulder as I was turning to find a car passing...
SilvrT Posted April 3, 2013 #4 Posted April 3, 2013 Let's see.... I've had 1974 (I think) Honda 750-4 with fixed fairing '85 & 87 VR - fixed fairing '03 Wing - fixed fairing '06 RSMV - fork mount fairing (fixed = frame mount) I found the fork mount to be more susceptible to wind than any of the others. I have yet to experience any steering or control issue related to wind on my Wing. So, my experience tells me the frame mounted fairing is better.
meach Posted April 3, 2013 #5 Posted April 3, 2013 I never personally have ever owned a frame mounted, have test driven or ridden a friends for short distance but one advantage of frame mounted as I understand it is that it is less tiring over long distances. You don't realize how much work goes into keeping the bike straight from the wind constantly pushing against the forks, one advantage wings have for long distance riding.
BOO Posted April 3, 2013 #6 Posted April 3, 2013 I've owned several frame mounted fairing bikes and they are warmer in cold weather. I can't say I prefer either one over the other in windy conditions. Like the mirrors on the fixed fairing. BOO
cecdoo Posted April 4, 2013 #7 Posted April 4, 2013 I liked the first gen fairing much better than the 2nd gen. Just seemed to work better all the way around and alot more solid. Craig
Snaggletooth Posted April 4, 2013 #8 Posted April 4, 2013 Frame mount now and always. Never want a fork mount again. Wind don't effect the frame mount nearly as much. I can't compare the 1st and 2nd gen to each other but I've never been more impressed with a fairing for weather protection than the 1st gen. Keeping the speed up I've got a nice dry bubble to sit in. BMW has the hot setup for lights on their new 1600. Follows the road. Perfect world.
Condor Posted April 4, 2013 Author #9 Posted April 4, 2013 So I gather the 1stGen's are better bikes.....
kevin-vic-b.c. Posted April 4, 2013 #10 Posted April 4, 2013 OK I know this is going to get into the old 1st and 2nd argument but now I can actually give an honest first hand answer. First gen fixed fairing is much easier to handle much lighter for steering, yes the draw back is the headlight not turning with you. If Yamaha made a first gen 20 years newer I would buy it! If I had any pennies I would say that is my 2 cents worth so you gotta settle for a nickel!
SilvrT Posted April 4, 2013 #11 Posted April 4, 2013 So I gather the 1stGen's are better bikes..... Now I just KNEW Jack had an ulterior motive ...
icebrrg3rd Posted April 4, 2013 #12 Posted April 4, 2013 Ya know, if you take a 2nd gen and rip off it's fork mounted fairing and plop on a HD Road Glide fixed fairing, I might go for a 2nd gen... -Andrew
SilvrT Posted April 4, 2013 #13 Posted April 4, 2013 Ya know, if you take a 2nd gen and rip off it's fork mounted fairing and plop on a HD Road Glide fixed fairing, I might go for a 2nd gen... -Andrew Then you'd really have a "YamaHarley"
XV1100SE Posted April 4, 2013 #14 Posted April 4, 2013 Now now boys... stick to the topic of the thread ! Pros and cons of fixed vs fork mounted fairings.
dacheedah Posted April 4, 2013 #15 Posted April 4, 2013 Comparing the 89 Venture Royale seemed much easier than the 2011 RSV, I think the 1st gen's front ends seem lighter or is it just the dynamic of you are pushing the added weight when turning? Maybe moving the cassette and class back on the first gen also pushed weight toward the center of the bike.
XV1100SE Posted April 4, 2013 #16 Posted April 4, 2013 Maybe when the new updated RSV is announced this Fall (oops... too late to suggest this since April Fool's day is past)
cecdoo Posted April 4, 2013 #17 Posted April 4, 2013 So I gather the 1stGen's are better bikes..... Hey I wouldnt go that far, but there were alot of things I liked about my 87 and there are alot of things I like about my 06. Wouldnt say better, just different. Craig
Miles Posted April 4, 2013 #18 Posted April 4, 2013 Actually neither the frame mounted fairing or the front-end mounted fairing is better...than...riding with NO fairing...while bare-chested...in a hail storm...with a 50 mph crosswind...and a VW microbus full of dope smoking hippies following you...because they need to draft behind you to avoid the hail on their windshield...because their wipers don't work...and the cops are chasing them...up a hill...and the fastest they can go is 40 mph...up that same hill...which is slower than the 50 mph crosswinds...that are pushing then back down the hill...and the cop is slowing as fast as he can...to avoid the VW microbus from being blown back into the cop car...all the while...you are riding the bike with no fairing...with your hairy bare-chest sticking out in the wind...testing your manliness up against the forces of the hail storm...and smiling all the way home. Those were the days my friends, we thought they'd never end, we'd sing and dance, forever and a day....
SilvrT Posted April 4, 2013 #19 Posted April 4, 2013 Actually neither the frame mounted fairing or the front-end mounted fairing is better...than...riding with NO fairing...while bare-chested...in a hail storm...with a 50 mph crosswind...and a VW microbus full of dope smoking hippies following you...because they need to draft behind you to avoid the hail on their windshield...because their wipers don't work...and the cops are chasing them...up a hill...and the fastest they can go is 40 mph...up that same hill...which is slower than the 50 mph crosswinds...that are pushing then back down the hill...and the cop is slowing as fast as he can...to avoid the VW microbus from being blown back into the cop car...all the while...you are riding the bike with no fairing...with your hairy bare-chest sticking out in the wind...testing your manliness up against the forces of the hail storm...and smiling all the way home. Those were the days my friends, we thought they'd never end, we'd sing and dance, forever and a day.... Miles, whatever you been "injesting", I'm not so sure I want any ...
2WHEELSFORME Posted April 4, 2013 #20 Posted April 4, 2013 After looking close at a 1st gen with fixed fairing and a 2nd gen with fork fairing I can only deduce that fixed fairings are really ugly.
beltfed50 Posted April 5, 2013 #21 Posted April 5, 2013 Miles, whatever you been "injesting", I'm not so sure I want any ... I think you spelled that wrong...and it should'a been INJECTING
Eddie Posted April 5, 2013 #22 Posted April 5, 2013 When I rode my RGU for the first time it felt 200 lbs lighter than the RSV . Night and day difference in the low speed handeling
Flyinfool Posted April 5, 2013 #23 Posted April 5, 2013 I have owned both type fairings, I by far prefer the frame mounted. I learned very early on that no faring is just for people that will never leave town.
Guest Swifty Posted April 5, 2013 #24 Posted April 5, 2013 I learned very early on that no faring is just for people that will never leave town. HUH? "Very early on" I did coast to coast WITHOUT a fairing. I'm sure there are many others here who did that too early on. If I had a fairing I wouldn't have been hit in the chest by a Mallard at 65 mph just east of Moose Jaw, SK. So everyone, tell me, how far have you gone without a fairing?
Miles Posted April 5, 2013 #25 Posted April 5, 2013 So everyone, tell me, how far have you gone without a fairing? Swifty, do you really want to open that can of worms ?
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