KeithR Posted February 7, 2008 Share #1 Posted February 7, 2008 Has anyone tried these Dyna Beads to balance their tires ? Looks interesting ! http://www.innovativebalancing.com/motorcycle.htm Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eck Posted February 7, 2008 Share #2 Posted February 7, 2008 I read about these a while back and always wondered if they would make noise when your rolling about 5 MPH....like in a parking lot and pulling up in front of a bunch of HD Bikers parked along the sidewalk.. Now that would be embarassing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Dollar Posted February 7, 2008 Share #3 Posted February 7, 2008 I do run the Dyna Beads in the tires of my VTX. I run 2oz in the front, and 3oz in the rear, which is a car tire. I feel sure they work, as I removed all the lead weights from the wheels after they were installed. But i did not test drive the bike without the beads or the lead weights. So there was no comparison point established. The beads do not produce any noise, at least I haven't heard any. The beads are really tiny (about the size of the head of a straight pin). The are said to be made of a very dense ceramic material. You can purchase them premearsured for your particular tire size, or as I did, buy in bulk and weigh out on postal scales. A problem that a lot of people have with them is, the beads "clumping" together. You have to be really carfull not to get any of the tire bead lubricating liguid inside the tire. The liquid will cause the Dyna beads to stick together and throw the tire/wheel way out of balance. I mount my tires without any bead lube, to be sure the inside of the tire remains dry. Some let the inside of the tire get wet, and this is why you will hear people say they don't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george c Posted February 8, 2008 Share #4 Posted February 8, 2008 you also have to be careful about the air you put in the tire. if the air is wet it will make it clump too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Saddletramp Posted February 8, 2008 Share #5 Posted February 8, 2008 There used to be a powder that came in a dissolving bag that would be placed in large truck tires. I had used it faithfully on my semi at one time. The most common or critical problem with that material was to be certain that what ever air you used was "dried air", that is air that was ran thru a dryer similair to what a paint shop would use on the line to a paint gun. The product appeared to be working but with the weight of a 24" semi tire you didn't make a habit out of mounting and dismounting tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSupina Posted February 13, 2008 Share #6 Posted February 13, 2008 Been using the dyna-beads for a couple of years on my old V-Star. Definitely planning on putting in the RSV when I change tires. I went from getting about 6-7K miles out of a rear tire on the V-Star to over 10K. Eliminated all the vibration issues too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipshot Posted February 13, 2008 Share #7 Posted February 13, 2008 i am not an authority on tires, but it seems to me, that any "beads" that are run on the "inside" would cause abnormal , wear on the inside, thus causing the tire to wear from the inside , and outside! just jt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Terror Posted February 13, 2008 Share #8 Posted February 13, 2008 Im very familiar with those kinds of products. Dyna beads and also a product named Equal is used as an internal balancing compound. I feel it dont work very well in smaller tires but on tractor trailer ones it is a little better. Nothing beats a good high speed balance. Now the other draw back, as there is now stuff in your tire you will run into problems with the beads or powder it will clog up the valve core unless you use the special cores with the filter on it. Even at that Ive seen tires let the air out of themselves because of this stuff. Now one more factor. You cant put any sealer in the tire with it or you will just get mud and the bike will be unrideable! Not saying I endorse any internal sealer cuz I dont but what if you use it in an emergency to get the bike home and you have this junk in it? I deal with tires all day and like to try new stuff to benefit my customers but I dont use it based on what I have tired and learned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted February 13, 2008 Share #9 Posted February 13, 2008 Ride-On balances also. Don't need beads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanman Posted February 13, 2008 Share #10 Posted February 13, 2008 I know of a couple of guys that put antifreeze in hiway truck tires to balance them. They claim about a half cup works great. Smaller tires would obviously need less. No need to worry about wearing the inside of the tire because it's a liquid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Terror Posted February 13, 2008 Share #11 Posted February 13, 2008 I know of a couple of guys that put antifreeze in hiway truck tires to balance them. They claim about a half cup works great. Smaller tires would obviously need less. No need to worry about wearing the inside of the tire because it's a liquid. Yeah but you should see what if does to the liner in the tire and better forget on patching them after its in as Antifreeze also has lubricating properties. Unless you are using marine antifreeze (RV) it is also considered a hazardous material and cary hefty fines for dumping. It is a poison. I do Farm tires also and a few smart (Read that as the opposite) farmers have started using used antifreeze in the tires for liquid weight. The have traditionally used Calcium cloride mixed with water for inside the tire ballast. Not only could I not repair the tire as the patches would not stick but now I had a Hazmat situation. I told him if he continued to use it I would no longer work on them. The RV anti freeze isnt hazmat but still makes impossible to repair. Dont use it, just balance the normal way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSupina Posted February 14, 2008 Share #12 Posted February 14, 2008 I been using them for several years. Since I mount my own tires I like not having any liquids in the tire to deal with. At first I was a little concerned they may damage the rim or tire but I've not seen any wear or tear at all from the ones I dismounted. I use plugs if I have a problem on the road and the beads still continue to balance the tire way better than anything I ever got from a dealer. If you have a fairly imbalanced tire you will notice some bumping up to about 15 - 20 mph then the beads will start balancing everything out. I've never bothered with the filtered air valves and have never had a bead hold a valve open, but I also make sure the stem is in an upright position before I check pressures. Never had any clumping issues either like always hapened with the powder balancers and I don't use any special dry air, just my cheap-o harbor frieght compressor. Anyway, I was concerned when I first tried them but I wouldn't use anything else now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegscraper Posted February 14, 2008 Share #13 Posted February 14, 2008 What diameter are these beads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSupina Posted February 14, 2008 Share #14 Posted February 14, 2008 1-2 mm, small enough to be put in your tire through the valve stem is you remove the valve, put it takes a while to do that. Much easier to put in when you mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegscraper Posted February 14, 2008 Share #15 Posted February 14, 2008 I should have also asked what they are made out of. Plastic? Lead? If they can be put in before mounting, why not use something a little larger that wouldn't have the possibility of plugging the valve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KitCarson Posted February 14, 2008 Share #16 Posted February 14, 2008 I should have also asked what they are made out of. Plastic? Lead? If they can be put in before mounting, why not use something a little larger that wouldn't have the possibility of plugging the valve? Pegscraper: Lot of well meaning mis-info here........the beads are quite small, they can be purchased in 2 oz tubes for large bikes such as the Venture. All you do is remove the valve stem sniffer valve and gently pour them in.....they are of a very hard slick ceramic material. As for wearing out the tires from inside......no they will not......they are very hard material......very slick and friction free............as for clumping together and gumming up in the tires.....no they do not....all air has water vapor in it.......the water vapor is actually what slowly caused a tire with time to lose a pound or two....I suppose if you had ride-on or something like that in a tire..yep that would be a formula for disaster.......but just with air in the tire.......will not clump up. Do they work.......yes they do..........you can balance a tire and 1000 miles after you balance it.....check it ......with wear it now needs balance again......hence cupping of the tires...........the beads work with laws of physics and keep tire balanced all the time..........more mileage.....smoother handlbars.........lot of good reasons to use them. Go to your computer and search for Dyna Beads........I think they are like 10-12 dollars a tire........... Oh and trying to put these things in in any means other than the valve stem is not good!!! Those little suckers will go everywhere!!! Just try putting them in before the bead is sealed.....uh ha!!!! Plus you do not want to risk getting one between the tire and the bead rim seal....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithR Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share #17 Posted February 14, 2008 Here is a video on U Tube with one guys technique for installing them. [ame=http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=TAa2r0K4yJY]YouTube - Dynabeads installation tip[/ame] Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegscraper Posted February 14, 2008 Share #18 Posted February 14, 2008 I was wondering about using some plastic beads about the size of marbles. No chance of plugging the valve with those. I know the principle works. An old hot rodder's trick (or maybe a shade tree mechanic's trick) for shortening a driveshaft is to put a couple quarts of oil inside it before welding the thing back together, and call it good. A liquid (or other moveable weight) inside of a spinning object like that will find its own balance. I have a set of balancing rings with beads inside of them that are designed to be mounted on car wheels attached behind the lug nuts. I haven't seen these things in years. Anyone else know what I'm talking about? I suppose I could snap a pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djh3 Posted February 2, 2012 Share #19 Posted February 2, 2012 Yea I know "old thread". but still a good conversation. Last time I cahnged tires on my VN 900 I put the "balance beads" in. They were like a generic dyna bead but still did the same thing. I did have issues once in awhile with a valve core sticking, I read up on it and found out about the "filtered" valve cores. I got a bag full of them for like $3. For whatever reason the filtered core would not fit in the front valve stem (straight type) the rear on a 90 deg as OK. Once in awahile if checking air press even with the valve stem on the bottom of the tire, one of them little buggers might get hung. Not a big problem. Give it a shot of air and it blows it out of the way and set pressure. Checking pressures is the only time I would acasionaly have an issue. As far as balance, I'd say very good. Cant complain in the 8-10K I had them in before I traded. I just found some on e-bay from an outfit in AZ for less than $2 an oz. Has anyone switched over to nitrogen filled tires? I would think you could fill your tires after you mounted them and then go to say a car dealership that has this service and hve them fill them for a small fee. Then it would certainly be dry air. I personaly have had a couple cars tires filled with nitrogen and you still have to check pressures and then if you service them @ home your still putting in regular old air. To me its sort of a gimick. Race cars run it because there is not the varience in pressures when you air up and what it is with a temp difference just sitting, and it is more consistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1joeranger Posted February 3, 2012 Share #20 Posted February 3, 2012 http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=44709&highlight=dyna+beads I have been using them for 20k miles so far. They work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djh3 Posted February 3, 2012 Share #21 Posted February 3, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1joeranger Posted February 3, 2012 Share #22 Posted February 3, 2012 I'm the one sorry! Was not meaning to offend anyone there chief! Just sharing previous info. I'm enjoying this thread and hoping it will turn out as funny as the last one!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twigg Posted February 3, 2012 Share #23 Posted February 3, 2012 I'm the one sorry! Was not meaning to offend anyone there chief! Just sharing previous info. I'm enjoying this thread and hoping it will turn out as funny as the last one!!!!! lol .... threads about "Dynabeads" or "Which Engine Oil is Best?" rarely turn out funny ... either here or elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djh3 Posted February 3, 2012 Share #24 Posted February 3, 2012 LOL yea I know, some folks take it to personal sometimes. I know on the Kawasaki boards same deal. Oil must have had a thousand threads, filters not far behind. Joeranger: no way I can get offended that easy, I'm retired military. We're good man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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