Cowboy Posted March 16, 2013 #1 Posted March 16, 2013 Wondering if anyone has tried a 170/80-15 rear tire. Another question. Wide White Wall Options ? Who makes a match set other than the Dunlop 404 WWW? Thanks for any response!
djh3 Posted March 16, 2013 #2 Posted March 16, 2013 Im pretty sure if mine had a WW on the rear it would look black anyways from the brake dust. I wont put WW on my cars because I dont want to clean them. lol I was reading alot of tire threads last year when shopping for tires for the RSV. Hd seems to be a big user of the WW tires, and I think Dunlap is the only guys making them. Try a search at Dennis Kirk, Jake Wilson & Motorcycle Superstore etc and see what shows up for options.
Guest tx2sturgis Posted March 16, 2013 #3 Posted March 16, 2013 Will a 170 even clear the driveshaft housing/swingarm?
SilvrT Posted March 16, 2013 #5 Posted March 16, 2013 Wondering if anyone has tried a 170/80-15 rear tire. Thanks for any response! There is (or was) a member here that runs a 170 but I can't recall who. I had discussed it with him quite some time ago but unfortunately I have cleaned out my messages inbox. Anyhoo, he runs one and if I recall correctly, the fender bracket needed to have appx 1/8 or 1/4 inch of metal shaved off to provide sufficient clearance. Other than that, it seemed to me to be a "tight squeeze" but did work. I never went ahead with it; however, was seriously considering it.
stroker ace Posted March 16, 2013 #6 Posted March 16, 2013 *oops* this should be in the DARKSIDE Section really
stroker ace Posted March 16, 2013 #7 Posted March 16, 2013 Here is what a lot of vmax owners are doing, I know some people that have done this on the venture. http://www.vmaxoutlaw.com/tech/fat_tire_installation.htm
Guest Posted March 17, 2013 #8 Posted March 17, 2013 Wondering if anyone has tried a 170/80-15 rear tire. Another question. Wide White Wall Options ? Who makes a match set other than the Dunlop 404 WWW? Thanks for any response! I remember someone installing a 170 in the rear at the Honda Hoot in 2005 and after some spirited riding on the dragon the tire heated up enough to make contact with the driveshaft tube. I think it was a Metzler tire. A 150 rear tire has a close fit to the tube. A 170 is real tight!
Cowboy Posted March 17, 2013 Author #9 Posted March 17, 2013 Just makes me mad we can't get a good Wide White Wall Rear Tire. Bike looks so much better with the White Walls, but I just did not want to run the Dulop 404 anymore. Guess I will jus drop back and punt. Thanks for the responses! AKA Cowboy Brian Shoemaker
Gary N. Posted March 17, 2013 #10 Posted March 17, 2013 Just makes me mad we can't get a good Wide White Wall Rear Tire. Bike looks so much better with the White Walls, but I just did not want to run the Dulop 404 anymore. Guess I will jus drop back and punt. Thanks for the responses! AKA Cowboy Brian Shoemaker In 2007 I bought a set of Avons in WWW. I had to go to the 130 front but I didn't really like the smaller tire. I don't know if Avon offers the WWWs anymore or not. I bought them at SW Mototire. Since then I have gone back to Dunlop 404s. They work for me.
stroker ace Posted March 18, 2013 #11 Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) Just makes me mad we can't get a good Wide White Wall Rear Tire. Bike looks so much better with the White Walls, but I just did not want to run the Dulop 404 anymore. Guess I will jus drop back and punt. Thanks for the responses! AKA Cowboy Brian Shoemaker http://www.chaparral-racing.com/category/whitewall-cruiser-motorcycle-tires Not sure they would work on a bike, I know several that have them on street rods http://www.portawalls.com/ http://www.rangerpaint.com/ Edited March 18, 2013 by stroker ace
Richie R Posted March 18, 2013 #12 Posted March 18, 2013 When I bought my bike and there was a 170 on rear and it rubbed on the driveshaft tube. It wore a bunch of the tire away and I replaced it with the correct size.
Guest tx2sturgis Posted March 18, 2013 #13 Posted March 18, 2013 Just makes me mad we can't get a good Wide White Wall Rear Tire. Nothing screams 'trailer queen' like white wall tires on a bike. They are like a pretty blonde: LOTS of maintenance. IF you actually RIDE the bike, those white walls get filthy-looking quickly...especially the rear. My 2000 ElelectraGlide came with white wall tires and as soon as they wore out, I replaced them with proper non-white wall tires. Of course everyone has their own preferences...
Guest tx2sturgis Posted March 18, 2013 #14 Posted March 18, 2013 When I bought my bike and there was a 170 on rear and it rubbed on the driveshaft tube. It wore a bunch of the tire away and I replaced it with the correct size. Thats nice to know, and earlier in this thread I posted a question, asking if the 170 would even fit due to the driveshaft/swingarm clearance. Wider tires are in 'style'...I guess. Maybe a big wide 300 series tire looks good on a chopper, but for normal street riding, narrower is better. (I dont mean skinny, just narrower than the phat chopper tires) The normal 150 is fine on these bikes...I would spend my time and energy on changing something else, where it actually benefits the rider in some way. Just my 2 .
Gary N. Posted March 18, 2013 #15 Posted March 18, 2013 Nothing screams 'trailer queen' like white wall tires on a bike. I will respectfully DISAGREE with that statement. 65000 + miles on my '06 and 75000 on my '03 before that and they both always had white walls while I owned them. Not that I have never trailered my bike but I also ride it. And I keep it clean. They are not hard to clean but you do have to stay on top of it. Only takes a few minutes unless you let them go too long.
SilvrT Posted March 18, 2013 #16 Posted March 18, 2013 What's the big difference between keeping white wall tires clean on a motorcycle versus a car?? Years ago, whitwalls (on cars) were THE thing. Heck, I never had trouble keeping them clean ... a little Fantastik and a scrub brush when ya wash it and they're like new. Even old, dingy whitewall came out looking pretty good that way.
Gary N. Posted March 18, 2013 #17 Posted March 18, 2013 What's the big difference between keeping white wall tires clean on a motorcycle versus a car??. No difference at all. Some people just don't like washing their bike or their car for that matter let alone their wheels and tires. To me if the tires are dirty the whole bike is dirty. Only takes a couple of minutes to jack the bike up and scrub the rubber and the wheels.
Guest tx2sturgis Posted March 18, 2013 #18 Posted March 18, 2013 What's the big difference between keeping white wall tires clean on a motorcycle versus a car?? Wow...hey I said people each have their preferences...if you guys want to clean the TIRES on a bike...have fun with it. BTW...the big difference is that on cars, the whitewalls are facing OUT...and the brake rotors (or drums in the old days) are facing IN. On a motorcycle, the hot brake dust from the pads and the rotor is slung towards the white tire sidewall, and mucks up the white sidewall coating. It's the reason they get so dark and ugly looking if you actually ride the bike a lot, between cleanings. But its like anything else, its a preference, so enjoy it...
Guest tx2sturgis Posted March 18, 2013 #19 Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) I will respectfully DISAGREE with that statement. 65000 + miles on my '06 and 75000 on my '03 before that and they both always had white walls while I owned them. Not that I have never trailered my bike but I also ride it. And I keep it clean. They are not hard to clean but you do have to stay on top of it. Only takes a few minutes unless you let them go too long. Respectfully, we will agree to disagree. Nice, clean, pretty, whitewall tires appear to indicate that the bike is used more for show...that it is garaged every night, possibly trailered, and cleaned every other day...at least. So, like a $4000 flame paintjob, or a $1000 ostrich leather saddle, or a 300 series rear tire on a $60,000 chopper, certain things in the wide world of motorcycles send a certain message. I didnt invent those messages, but I am able to read them...if occasionally incorrectly. Anyway...enjoy it...and I've even been known to drink beer with guys riding whitewalls...so have fun. Edited March 18, 2013 by tx2sturgis
Gary N. Posted March 18, 2013 #20 Posted March 18, 2013 I've even been known to drink beer with guys riding whitewalls...so have fun. I accept, I'll have a Shiner Bock and I'll be in Texas this weekend until the first week of May.
SilvrT Posted March 18, 2013 #21 Posted March 18, 2013 Wow...hey I said people each have their preferences...if you guys want to clean the TIRES on a bike...have fun with it. BTW...the big difference is that on cars, the whitewalls are facing OUT...and the brake rotors (or drums in the old days) are facing IN. On a motorcycle, the hot brake dust from the pads and the rotor is slung towards the white tire sidewall, and mucks up the white sidewall coating. It's the reason they get so dark and ugly looking if you actually ride the bike a lot, between cleanings. But its like anything else, its a preference, so enjoy it... WOW ... hey, I asked an honest question ... I simply did not know it would be that much more difficult. Frankly, I still don't see it as being an overly difficult task ... no more than washing the wheels themselves. You do wash your wheels, don't you? Well, maybe not ... I guess that too is a personal preference. FWIW, I personally don't care for ww's on M/C's ...
Guest tx2sturgis Posted March 18, 2013 #22 Posted March 18, 2013 I accept, I'll have a Shiner Bock and I'll be in Texas this weekend until the first week of May. Texas, like Canada, is a big damn place! Where abouts in the Lone Star State?
SilvrT Posted March 18, 2013 #23 Posted March 18, 2013 Respectfully, we will agree to disagree. Nice, clean, pretty, whitewall tires appear to indicate that the bike is used more for show...that it is garaged every night, possibly trailered, and cleaned every other day...at least. So, like a $4000 flame paintjob, or a $1000 ostrich leather saddle, or a 300 series rear tire on a $60,000 chopper, certain things in the wide world of motorcycles send a certain message. I didnt invent those messages, but I am able to read them...if occasionally incorrectly. Anyway...enjoy it...and I've even been known to drink beer with guys riding whitewalls...so have fun. heh ... as the old saying goes, "it's all in the eye of the beholder". To me, a nice, clean, shiney vehicle suggests that "that person takes care of his 'stuff' and takes pride in it". As for "cleaning every other day", heck, I would wash and polish and buff my RSMV almost every time I took it for a ride and if it was an over nighter or other long trip, I would at minimum give it a good wipe down before leaving the next morning. I absolutely HATE a dirty looking bike ... it suggests an "I don't give a damn about it" attitude.
Guest tx2sturgis Posted March 18, 2013 #24 Posted March 18, 2013 Frankly, I still don't see it as being an overly difficult task ... no more than washing the wheels themselves. You do wash your wheels, don't you? Face to face, these conversations would go much smoother. I was not attacking anyone for their preferences. Differences are a GOOD thing. I simply wont take any time to apply cleaner and then scrub and rinse the whitewalls on a bike...especially moving it around or jacking it up to do so. Not gonna happen. Ever. Yes, I know there are roller plates to make it easier...guys, I know all this...I been there....its just not my thing anymore. Now I ride the bike into a car wash a couple times a month, knock the mud off, wipe down the plastic with Pledge, and ride out. 15 minutes, tops. If yall want to spend an hour and a half detailing your ride every Saturday morning and then again Sunday nite...go for it...I think clean bikes are beautiful too! But mine is primarily transportation, and yeah, i know all about 'pride in your ride', but my bike spends nearly as many nites away from home as it does in the garage each month...so keeping it clean would be an everyday affair....and I prefer to ride it.
SilvrT Posted March 18, 2013 #25 Posted March 18, 2013 Texas, like Canada, is a big damn place! Where abouts in the Lone Star State? heh, some of you Texans crack me up that you think your state is so damned big. The province of British Columbia, Canada is bigger and it's not even the biggest province in Canada.
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