Techron just made me a believer!!!!!!!!!!

[Freebird]

Well, my opinion is that none of these products are needed as a gas additive at every fill up. The gas today does leave something to be desired but if you are riding your bike enough to keep the gas fresh, today's has has plenty of additives, detergents, etc. to keep your fuel system clean.

 

The problems occur when your bikes sits for a long enough time that the gas gets old. If that is the case, then some type of stabilizer will prevent most problems and you will not get to the point of needing to actually soak the carbs due to them being gummed up.

 

My bike is now 14 years old. I have never used additives on a per tank basis. I have used various products when I knew the bike would be sitting, for example over the winter. I use one can to a full tank of gas before pretty much putting the bike away for the winter. I usually add one more can sometime in early spring or summer just to make sure anything that MAY have started gumming up is cleaned out and that is it. Two cans a year. Now for the past 5 years or so, the product that I've used has indeed been Seafoam and it has worked just fine. I am sure the Techron work OK too though.

 

KNOCK ON WOOD...in 14 years, I've not needed any carb maintenance, have not had a float stick, etc. I did pull my carbs a couple of years ago to check and set the float levels and they looked great on the inside.

Edited February 28, 2013 by Freebird

[Yammer Dan]

Well, my opinion is that none of these products are needed as a gas additive at every fill up. The gas today does leave something to be desired but if you are riding your bike enough to keep the gas fresh, today's has has plenty of additives, detergents, etc. to keep your fuel system clean.

 

The problems occur when your bikes sits for a long enough time that the gas gets old. If that is the case, then some type of stabilizer will prevent most problems and you will not get to the point of needing to actually soak the carbs due to them being gummed up.

 

My bike is now 14 years old. I have never used additives on a per tank basis. I have used various products when I knew the bike would be sitting, for example over the winter. I use one can to a full tank of gas before pretty much putting the bike away for the winter. I usually add one more can sometime in early spring or summer just to make sure anything that MAY have started gumming up is cleaned out and that is it. Two cans a year. Now for the past 5 years or so, the product that I've used has indeed been Seafoam and it has worked just fine. I am sure the Techron work OK too though.

 

KNOCK ON WOOD...in 14 years, I've not needed any carb maintenance, have not had a float stick, etc. I did pull my carbs a couple of years ago to check and set the float levels and they looked great on the inside.

 

 

AND THATS THE WORD!!!:rotfl:Except when.....

[FreezyRider]

The answer to your question is: Yes.

 

The B12 is good/okay. But the Techron is much better than the Seafoam.

 

Allow me to use an analogy:

 

Using Techron periodically is like using a small ball-peen hammer to carefully smooth out the door dings in your car. Using Seafoam is like using a 10 pound sledge hammer to bend the frame back into place, when the insurance company has totaled your car, and you buy back the salvage.

 

Every product has its' place, and the correct time to use it. I do think there is a place and a time to use Seafoam. My concern is that I see a lot of posts on this forum from people that are using Seafoam as a regular dietary supplement to their fuel system, and that is not what it is designed for. (no...it is not !)

 

The Berryman's B-12, and the Chevron Techron are better suited for dietary supplement to a fuel system.

 

Given the choice, I would use the Techron. The Berryman's B-12 gets placed in between the Techron and the Seafoam, as far as needs or severity.

 

 

Miles,

 

Please post a link to the source of your opinion. It is absolutely contrary to what the manufacturer says about what it is designed for. You have other documented information?

http://www.seafoamsales.com/sea-foam-motor-treatment/how-to-use-sea-foam-motor-treatment/

 

Thanks.

Joe

[Miles]

Miles,

 

Please post a link to the source of your opinion. It is absolutely contrary to what the manufacturer says about what it is designed for. You have other documented information?

http://www.seafoamsales.com/sea-foam-motor-treatment/how-to-use-sea-foam-motor-treatment/

 

Thanks.

Joe

 

 

Joe, that is a fair request, however, you are asking me to post a link to the source of "my opinion". Okay, the source of "my opinion" is me. Here is a picture of me:

 

If you were asking me to post a source of a validated study, or technical data, then I would need to post a source. Given that I stated it was..."my opinion", it alleviates me from naming any source, other than myself.

 

Okay, going forward. Of course Seafoam is going to promote their own product. Does anyone believe that Seafoam is going to say...do not use this as a regular fuel system additive, ON A DAILY BASIS ? Of course they will not. They want to sell their product.

 

I am not saying their product is bad. I have never said that. I have used their product, and will use it again in the future...IF the need requires that I use Seafoam.

 

What I did say was that there are a lot of posts on this forum of people (some making jokes of it, and most people kidding around) but people that promote using Seafoam as a regular daily dietary regimen for their vehicles. Even Seafoam does not say...YOU SHOULD USE THIS EVERY DAY.

 

Now, the bottom line is: If you like it, use it. If you like something else, use it. I am not going to stop you from using Seafoam. If you have a good history of using it, that is great. But, just as others have chimed in with their opinions about additives...it is "my opinion" that Seafoam is a much more harsh additive than some others, and should be used sparingly. Given the choice, I would use Chevron Techron. And I would "not" use that on a daily basis either. My posts have said I use it once every 3 or 4 months.

 

Contrary to the experiences of some others here, I do not keep bikes for 25 to 30 years. I wear bikes out in a year or two, and after 100,000 plus miles on my bikes, I either sell them or retire them. I have some bikes with well over 200k on them, but they are retired bikes. So, there is a 100 % possibility that I will never have to rebuild any carbs on any of my bikes, because the few that I have that are carb'd, are museum pieces. The only one that is carb'd that is being ridden, is my '06 RSMTD, and after another year or two, it will be retired to being a sidecar rig sitting in my museum of bikes.

 

Please folks, use what you want to use. Your opinion is as valid as mine. If you are happy, then please...continue to ride in peace.

 

As always...

[jfoster]

Miles I appreciate your response and for those that may have missed it, our discussion was about non-ethanol gasoline with no additives or detergents.

[Yammer Dan]

I used Techron a long time ago. Need to revisit it. As I have said Sea-Foam is great at times. I do think using it regularly keeps a lot of problems away. But it is not the only cleaner I use mainly because it has gotten so costly. My shop has Sea-Foam, BerryMan's Chem Tech, Marvel Mystery Oil, Star Tron and probally a couple others maybe some old Techron in there. My point has always been use as needed. I use Sea-Foam several times a year because I think it prevents problems.

 

Use what ever you feel safe using. Some cleaners will ruin your carbs.

 

Nuff said. The station I deal with buys gas where he can get it the cheapest and passes savings along to his customers. And lets everyone know this. So can't be depended on for additives to be there. I just add mine when I feel the need...

Edited March 1, 2013 by Yammer Dan

[tazmocycle]

i have always used techron thru the years and use to buy only texaco because of techron keeping my vechiles running smooth. when i got my new 01 royal star and after about a year of riding and sometimes not getting a good grade of gas all the time, i noticed it not running good. on the isra forum i joined in 02 i met and got to know glen fritzgearld from ga and he had owned a new 96 royal and had played around with rejetting his bike and getting it to run a lot better. he found that these motors get a lot of carbon in them because the way they were setup from factory and he came up with what he called a techron flush to fix this problem. he dumped a can of techron in a full tank of gas and run it wide open for a tank full and then change the oil out as it would be loaded with carbon out of the motor. about all of us from the royal riders on delphi forums started doing this and getting great results fron it. one one of our friends bike we did it to after he had around 31,000 miles on it, when we got about 50-60 miles into the run his bike started bolwing out soot and sparks out the exhaust and the bike was missing some, he pulled over and claimed we had ruined his bike but we got him to get back on and keep going and after about another 40 miles it cleared up all the sputting and was running a lot better tahn ever. when we changed his oil it was ull of carbon floating around his oil. after finding this forum i seen where everybody was using seafoam and getting good results so i tried it and it worked pretty good for me. i use sea foam when i can get it on sale but still mostly use techron. i always tell folks about all the differant things i use and if they like it, use what every you think works best for you.

[RSTDdog]

Yamaha Ring Free (expensive stuff) is basically concentrated Techron,,, I do believe.

Supposed to have same main ingredient. Used to use it for stick valve on my Road Star.

 

You are correct. When I worked for a Yamaha dealer inthe 90's the regional service rep told me Ring Free was concentrated techron. He indicated it was 4 times more concentrated than retail Techron products. Expensive? Thats relative I suppose. Maintenance doses of Ring Free are 1oz to 10 gallons (IIRC working from memory) so quart treats 320 gallons. Heavy Treatment to Decarbon piston, valves and heads is 2 oz per gallon. I have a bottle, I need to go read it.

 

The guy who posted they use the 20z bottle in a Royal Star tank (5 gallons) and get decarboning benefits seems inline with what I was told about the concentration differences.

 

The Techron Fuel System Cleaner is 12.99 for the 20 oz bottle that treats up to 20 gallons. I wait till its BOGO at advance to buy it. Convenient to use for the car that way. Usually every other month its BOGO. Ring Free I order online with other Yamaha parts to get free shipping.

 

In any regard, Ring Free/Techron is good stuff IMO.

[dacheedah]

In Chevron gas, we don'y have a station nearby.

[tazmocycle]

The guy who posted they use the 20z bottle in a Royal Star tank (5 gallons) and get decarboning benefits seems inline with what I was told about the concentration differences.

we use the 10 or 12 oz bottle or half of the 20! differant places sell differant sizes that way they don't have to price match, they say "it's not the same msize!!" i looked on amazon.com and the prices vary greatly between the many places that sells it. auto zone has a buy 2 get 1 free from time to time, but they are always trying to sell me the lucas gas treatment "because it's on sell!". i just tell them i stick to what i know and not what every dufas behind the counter is pushing!LOL!

chevron, texaco, gulf and caltex stations has techron in their fuels. you can go to www.chevron.com and search for a station near you.