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Okay, I am going to stick my neck out here, and risk saying something negative about a product, that some of you may in fact like, and I have heard that Freebird really likes this stuff.

 

If you use Ride On tire protection sealant...balancer..., and you have had 100 % positive results from the use of this product...then that is good. I am happy for you. I am obviously not going to sway you away from its' use.

 

However, if you are "thinking" about using Ride On tire protection sealant...balancer...I would "politely" suggest that you do NOT use it, UNLESS...you are a slow rider, never take the bike over 80 mph, or ride a Ural w/sidecar. (love ya Brian)

 

Here is why:

 

# 1 - anytime there is any kind of substance inside a motorcycle tire, or a car tire for that matter, and you go to have the tire changed...you MUST let the shop or dealership know that there is a substance inside the tire...before they deflate and dismount the tire. This includes any kind of internal balancer, or tire sealant. There have been instances where employees at shops have been injured when deflating and dismounting a tire that had sealant or balancer slime inside the tire. At the least...it makes for a messy job when dismounting, as the slime also gets on the inside of the wheel rim area. This makes the shop tech MAD, because now he/she has to clean up a slimey mess, in order to mount the new tire. Making a shop tech MAD at you, when you are having them install tires on your bike...is NOT a good thing to happen.

 

# 2 - it has been shown that 93.14159 % of all inside the tire balancer do NOT work at speeds over 80 mph. If the internal balancer is a loose object, such as the ball bearings or beads, they can NOT keep up with the rotational speed of the tire...above 80 mph. At lower speeds, they "appear" to work okay. I can't speak for anyone else, but I do not ride my bike with a limited speed of under 80 mph. I want to know that "if" and "when" I do go above 80 mph, my tires are still balanced.

 

Example: I had Wingman Enterprises in Portland, OR. install a new set of Avon Cobra radials on my '06 Wing, and when they did, they talked me into "trying" these Concentric Wheel Balancers that mounted to the inboard side of each brake rotor. It was basically a flat plate that bolted to the bike, and on the outside circumference of the flat plate was a round tube, welded to the plate. Inside that round tube was a set of 5 or 6 ball bearings, that were supposed to balance the tires as the bike rolled down the road. This same balancer set-up has been used on large trucks...18 wheelers...for many years.

I let them install these...I left from Portland, OR. and rode up to Regina, SK to start the 3 Flags Classic ride, and halfway through Montana I stopped on the side of the road to call the shop in Portland, and tell them how disappointed I was in these balancers. At that moment, I did not know for 100 % if it was the balancers, or the new Avon Cobra radials.

I told the shop that it only does this at speeds of 80 mph or more. Their answer to me was, well, dont ride that fast. What?

 

By the time I was done riding to Regina, SK., then riding down to Tucson, AZ., then riding back to Portland, OR. I had over 5500 miles on the new Avons and balancers, and I wanted them off. I asked the service manager to PLEASE take my bike for a ride, and prove it to himself, because...of course...no one else had ever complained about this problem. He took my bike for a test ride, was gone for 30 minutes, and when he came back, he said that he could not feel any problem with the tire balancing. I asked him...what speed to you go? And his answer was that the shops insurance will not let them exceed the speed limit. Well...B.S. He knew that the problem started at 80 mph, but he would not take a 2006 GL-1800 Wing up to 80 mph. WOW !

 

They ended up "saying" they believed me, and took off the wheel balancers, took off the 5500 mile old Avon Radials, and gave me a new set of Dunlop E-3 radials, and...good old fashioned stick on wheel weights, because my wheels were powder coated black.

 

I have yet to see a tire taken off a bike that had tire sealant inside of it...that was evenly coated on the inside of the tire. If the job of the sealant is to SEAL the tire, in case of a flat...then it should be evenly coated on all interior surfaces. If the job of the slime is to balance the tire...then most likely it will not be evenly dispersed, as it tries to find the light spot to flow to, to balance the tire.

 

Hear me now...:soapbox:...I say to "just say NO" to tire sealant/balancers.

 

Find a shop that really...honestly...knows how to properly balance a motorcycle tire, and have them use lead weights on the outside of the tire to balance it. If you tire gets a flat, stop...plug the tire...and then get it repaired or replaced when it is safe to do so.

 

I can tell you that with 43 years of riding, and 1,875,000 miles on motorcycles, I have never had a flat tire strand me on the road...and...have never had a properly balanced tire go out of balance during the life of the tire. Call me old school :backinmyday: , but I believe that certain things should be left they way they were, and not messed up with high tech gadgetry.

Posted

I do have a photo some place I will try and find you

where the Ride is perfect in the tire that had 10K on it

and the clean up is nothing like slime. I agree never use

any of this stuff as a balancer ever. and also make sure

you have the tires balanced for before adding it if you choose

to do so. anyways the shop I took my old tires to was very impressed with

how it didn't give them any problems what so ever. oh and removing

the RIDE-ON was a very simple task with a house and cold water.

 

Peace.

Posted

 

oh and removing

the RIDE-ON was a very simple task with a house and cold water.

 

Peace.

 

Jeff, you make my point for me. You had to use an entire "house" and cold water to clean your bike wheels.

 

That is a lot of cleaning, unless you live in a small house.:rotf:

Posted

Just one clarification. I have never used Ride On or any other type of tire sealant or any type of internal balancing beads on my motorcycles. I'm neither discounting nor endorsing the benefits or lack thereof of either. I've heard the positives and negatives of both.

 

I will say that if I WERE to use a sealant, from all reports that I've read here and elsewhere, it would be the Ride On. It is reportedly non-corrosive to rims and very easy to clean up.

Posted
Just one clarification. I have never used Ride On or any other type of tire sealant or any type of internal balancing beads on my motorcycles. I'm neither discounting nor endorsing the benefits or lack thereof of either. I've heard the positives and negatives of both.

 

I will say that if I WERE to use a sealant, from all reports that I've read here and elsewhere, it would be the Ride On. It is reportedly non-corrosive to rims and very easy to clean up.

 

 

Don, I thought at one time you were leaning me towards RideOn at some point. I may have misunderstood your position. My apologies

Posted

Don, to clarify and correct on my end...I had received a PM from a less experienced rider today, asking about the Ride On product, and HE is the one that said...our beloved Don really likes this stuff. So, given that you have never tried it, then he misspoke.

 

My apologies for thinking you had endorsed it. Your endosement royalties will now be revoked, and we ask that you return any endorsement checks to the proper authorities.

:rotf:

Posted
Don, to clarify and correct on my end...I had received a PM from a less experienced rider today, asking about the Ride On product, and HE is the one that said...our beloved Don really likes this stuff. So, given that you have never tried it, then he misspoke.

 

My apologies for thinking you had endorsed it. Your endosement royalties will now be revoked, and we ask that you return any endorsement checks to the proper authorities.

:rotf:

 

 

I have to confess and fess up. That person was ME. for some reason, I had it in my head that it was endorsed by Don, and therefore my statement earlier was inaccurate. My apologies for the mix up to Don, Miles and the forum. ( Insert both feet in mouth)

Posted
I have to confess and fess up. That person was ME. for some reason, I had it in my head that it was endorsed by Don, and therefore my statement earlier was inaccurate. My apologies for the mix up to Don, Miles and the forum.

 

 

No Pi for YOU !:rotf:

Posted

The confusion may have come from a recent thread discussing "Slime". I made the comment in that thread that most here prefer Ride On. I know that many here use it and from all reports, it is a great product. I have intended to try it for some time now but have just never done it. Now I could go back and find that thread to see if I misspoke. Could I have said that most of US here prefer Ride On? If so, I apologize.

Posted

OK...I found the thread that I was thinking about. If this is what you were preferring to.

 

http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=75624

 

and what I posted was:

 

"Maybe I just missed it but I don't see where Ride On was mentioned. That seems to be the sealant that most here have used. I've never used any type of sealant in my tires but from the reports I've read here, it seems to be the product of choice and does not harm aluminum rims."

 

So it looks like I was incorrect when I thought I had made a mistake and in fact was correct in that I had not stated that I had used it and then incorrect when I mentioned that I may have incorrectly stated that I had when in fact I had correctly stated that I had not so I was incorrect in thinking that I was indeed incorrect so the mistake that I made was...............oh heck.....what were we talking about? :confused24:

Posted
OK...I found the thread that I was thinking about. If this is what you were preferring to.

 

http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=75624

 

and what I posted was:

 

"Maybe I just missed it but I don't see where Ride On was mentioned. That seems to be the sealant that most here have used. I've never used any type of sealant in my tires but from the reports I've read here, it seems to be the product of choice and does not harm aluminum rims."

 

So it looks like I was incorrect when I thought I had made a mistake and in fact was correct in that I had not stated that I had used it and then incorrect when I mentioned that I may have incorrectly stated that I had when in fact I had correctly stated that I had not so I was incorrect in thinking that I was indeed incorrect so the mistake that I made was...............oh heck.....what were we talking about? :confused24:

 

 

Spoken like a true politician

 

 

Oh wait a minute where did Eck hide that delete button.:rotf:

Posted
anyone used the mushroomed shaped plugs and co2 thing??? really think holes should be patched from inside and plugs are emergency only

 

I agree that plugs should be used only in emergency just as liquids should be used just and only as an emergency repair to safely get you to home or a shop for proper repairs.

Posted

Don't know about Ride On's leak stopping ability, but I put it in the RSV tires only to have 6oz left. I thought why not put 3oz in each of my 8" trailer tires? :confused24:

I can't say that I can tell much difference in the RSV as far as balancing, but MAN, it did smooth out my H/F Tag Along!!! BIG difference, :) I'm glad I did it!!! :cool10:

Posted
Don't know about Ride On's leak stopping ability, but I put it in the RSV tires only to have 6oz left. I thought why not put 3oz in each of my 8" trailer tires? :confused24:

I can't say that I can tell much difference in the RSV as far as balancing, but MAN, it did smooth out my H/F Tag Along!!! BIG difference, :) I'm glad I did it!!! :cool10:

 

Did you forget the tire on the sidecar:whistling:

Posted
Did you forget the tire on the sidecar:whistling:

 

That was in the days before the sidecar :rotf:

 

I haven't listed it yet, but the sidecar IS for sale. Wife doesn't like it. I have bought a Voyager kit, that came off of a Honda Shadow. Now I gotta order the :shock3: $700.00 RSV mounting kit.

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