Seaking Posted January 20, 2013 #1 Posted January 20, 2013 I was checking the lights on the bike and see that when I turn on the hazard lights that only the left side lights actually flash.. the right side lights do not. However, the left and right turn signal system works. But only half of the hazard lights. Any thoughts as to where to start looking for the culprit..? Thanks in advance.
stroker ace Posted January 20, 2013 #2 Posted January 20, 2013 I was checking the lights on the bike and see that when I turn on the hazard lights that only the left side lights actually flash.. the right side lights do not. However, the left and right turn signal system works. But only half of the hazard lights. Any thoughts as to where to start looking for the culprit..? Thanks in advance. I would think the contacts in the hazard switch. Possibly the the hazard relay it would be easier to check there first. Thinking out loud.
djh3 Posted January 20, 2013 #3 Posted January 20, 2013 I suck at wiring diagrams. So me being able to look at all them lines arghhh. But I would shoot for the flasher unit. You may have to build a couple of jumper wires but you should be able to borrow one out of the cage and see if the circuit works. If you can read a wiring diagram its in the shop manual.
Seaking Posted January 21, 2013 Author #4 Posted January 21, 2013 Thanks for the responses.. When looking at this system and the wiring diagram, I can see it goes from the switch (on handlebar) to the relay (under right side of fairing) then to the flasher unit (under right side cover) while to goes through some detours through the cruise control magic boxes along the way (while in cruise control, activation of hazard light would disengage the cruise control..) Is there any other components that are part of the system that I haven't listed that I should be looking at so to meter for continuity before having to replace something on spec in hopes that it works? (if so, where is it located as well).. That wiring diagram leaves a lot to be desired to make it easier to trace.. ouch. Cheers
djh3 Posted January 21, 2013 #5 Posted January 21, 2013 Yea its like they were running short on paper or something. You know I think a bunch of the realy orginal to the bike are the same. Before buying one verify a good one a swap it into positions.
dingy Posted January 21, 2013 #6 Posted January 21, 2013 Does right dash light flash when hazards are on? Looking at the wiring diagram, the hazard relay has a dark green wire that goes a junction point with the dark green wire (Dg on schematics) from the turn signal switch, then a dark green wire runs to the right front, right rear & dash bulbs. It is my profound opinion, that there is a break or loose wire between the hazard relay connector and the turn signal tie point. Below is a link to the redrawn schematics group listing I did a couple of years ago. http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=42357 The specific sheet that will show what I am looking at is below. Look at lower left corner of sheet for flasher/hazard circuits. This page is shown without all the connector depicted. For complete circuits look at first page in thread above. http://www.venturerider.org/wiring/99-09%20Yamaha%20Royal%20Star%20Venture%20Simplified%20Circuit%20Diagram%20Rev%20B.pdf My usual disclaimer is that I have never worked on an RSV, now modified to not having worked on a complete RSV. Gary
Seaking Posted January 21, 2013 Author #7 Posted January 21, 2013 Does right dash light flash when hazards are on? Looking at the wiring diagram, the hazard relay has a dark green wire that goes a junction point with the dark green wire (Dg on schematics) from the turn signal switch, then a dark green wire runs to the right front, right rear & dash bulbs. It is my profound opinion, that there is a break or loose wire between the hazard relay connector and the turn signal tie point. Gary Thanks Gary, I'll have a look at the PDF files in the morning. When I select left or right turn signals, the dash light indicators and signal lights will illuminate correctly. I can hear the signal light flash unit tic tic with each flash.. When I select the hazard light switch, only the left dash light indicators and left signal lights (front and back) will blink. There is no sound when this one side light flashes.. I don't think it does regardless? Can you confirm where the hazard relay connector and turn signal tie point would be located? The system was working properly a few weeks ago as I always turn on the hazard lights when stopped at a toll booth, remembering that the dash indicators were both working.. Thanks again for your insight.. Cheers
Seaking Posted January 23, 2013 Author #8 Posted January 23, 2013 Thanks Gary and all those who provided assistance and suggestions with this weird problem. With Gary's schematics I was able to figured out the issue and sorted out a few other electrical issues. As for the one side 4way hazard light issue, it was nothing more than a bad connection coming out of the hazard relay. After cleaning out the pins and connectors (and a little tightening squeeze on them), everything is back to normal. While looking at Gary's schematics, I started looking at how to work the system in such that I would be able to run the 4 way hazard lights with the key out of the bike and I believe to have found a way around it. With the key out of the bike, I can select the 4 way flasher to ON and they will work.. With the key turned on (headlight on) they will also work. I won't be able to test if this will affect the cruise control or not as I have to wait for the glaciers to retreat a bit more before I can get the bike on the road. The only caveat to this set up is that your signal lights will also work with the key out. A work around this is to have a 3 position 4 pole switch (set to stock config and emergency). I did a quick wire testing of this set up and so far it works. Just have to be able to take the bike out and ride test it to see if it will cause issues with other systems. (self cancel, cruise etc..)
djh3 Posted January 23, 2013 #9 Posted January 23, 2013 Sounds like a call for dielectric grease, or maybe its sea foam I get confused.
Seaking Posted January 23, 2013 Author #10 Posted January 23, 2013 Sounds like a call for dielectric grease, or maybe its sea foam I get confused. lol the snake oil didn't work but a good scrubbing of the blade and connectors certainly did help..
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