GothicJB Posted January 14, 2013 #1 Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) Just wanted to get some opinions, feedback and/or comments here on this idea/project. I'm putting together a 4.8" TFT Touchscreen instrument cluster for my 1983 Venture Royale Deluxe ... I want to replace the current dash/cluster with the touchscreen display that will show the following: Battery Voltage Fuel Guage with MPG reading Speed / RPMs Odometer / Tripometer Compass / GPS Turn Signals / hazards (when on) Outdoor and Engine Temp Clock with alarm Neutral Indicator (maybe indicator to show which gear as well) Side Stand / Kill Switch Indicator Burned out headlight and HI / LO tail, brake light failure indicator High beam indicator. Possibly Oil level indicator. (any additions or changes please comment and let me know) I'm also thinking that there could be a few user selectable display variations (themes). I have the electronics / programming know how to do this and I am planning on doing this for myself either way, but was wondering if others would be interested in this as well? Thanks, Jason Edited January 14, 2013 by GothicJB
Black Owl Posted January 14, 2013 #2 Posted January 14, 2013 You may want to consider showing the side stand and kill switch also. Can say you a whole lot of aggravation....... Don't ask how I know
GothicJB Posted January 14, 2013 Author #3 Posted January 14, 2013 Great idea ... added to the list Thanks, Jason
calperin Posted January 14, 2013 #4 Posted January 14, 2013 Are you going to use an Arduino kind of device for this?
GothicJB Posted January 14, 2013 Author #5 Posted January 14, 2013 Yeah. I'll probably use either a full arduino or just atmega328 chip on a custom board. It depends more on the size of the code though. May have to go with a larger chip with more memory.
Flyinfool Posted January 14, 2013 #6 Posted January 14, 2013 How about miles left in tank. Burned out headlight HI / LO, tail, brake High beam indicator. Oil level. Passenger mute button...... Several trip odos Clock Stopwatch Just trying to think of what all is on the current display that will be gone. User settable rev limiter. Will it have a function to calibrate the spedo and odo? I don't think that it needs to be displayed other than while doing the calibration.
dingy Posted January 15, 2013 #8 Posted January 15, 2013 Not that this isn't a REALLY cool sounding idea, but it sort of sounds scary. The digital display sounds great, but the touch screen part is where it gets blurry. There is the potential for something like this to lead to distracted driving, which is often very bad on a bike. Not trying to be a wet blanket, cause I would be one of the ones to want one for the wow factor, but it will have its potential hurt factor. Gary
GothicJB Posted January 15, 2013 Author #9 Posted January 15, 2013 Not that this isn't a REALLY cool sounding idea, but it sort of sounds scary. The digital display sounds great, but the touch screen part is where it gets blurry. There is the potential for something like this to lead to distracted driving, which is often very bad on a bike. Not trying to be a wet blanket, cause I would be one of the ones to want one for the wow factor, but it will have its potential hurt factor. Gary This is true, but I feel it is no more true than people resetting their trip while driving, switching between compass and temp and mileage, GPS programming, etc... whether touchscreen or buttons the possibility is already there and in use in 90% of vehicles. While this is not exactly the case with motorcycles, it is becoming more so with the touring bikes and their built in gps, stereos, etc... I guess my opinion is that good riders will continue to use good judgement while poor riders will continue to use poor judgement - regardless of the devices available. You do make a good point though. Jason
Trader Posted January 15, 2013 #10 Posted January 15, 2013 That could be really cool. It would be an interesting exercise...not only to make the thing actually work but to mount it in a way that is visually attractive and functional. But of course degree of interest is directly proportional to cost
GothicJB Posted January 15, 2013 Author #11 Posted January 15, 2013 That could be really cool. It would be an interesting exercise...not only to make the thing actually work but to mount it in a way that is visually attractive and functional. But of course degree of interest is directly proportional to cost The cool thing is that most of all the needed sensors are already on the bike so my plan is to interface with the monitoring clip that stock panel connects to in order to read the data from all the sensors. Unfortunately I'm no good with fabricating so I doubt it will look pretty ... any volunteers for the fabricating part? lol At the moment for just the electronics, I'm ball parking the cost around $250-300... Not too bad considering the costs I've seen to get a mint condition USED panel if you need to replace the one you have. Jason
GothicJB Posted January 15, 2013 Author #12 Posted January 15, 2013 I'm thinking something along the lines of this. This is not exactly what it will look like but maybe to give everyone an idea.
jasonm. Posted January 27, 2013 #13 Posted January 27, 2013 you cannot have an MPG function on a carb'd bike. Accurate MPG function is always EFI driven.
GothicJB Posted January 27, 2013 Author #14 Posted January 27, 2013 Actually, since the fuel gauge monitors the amount of fuel in the tank and the odometer monitors distance traveled, the two could be averaged out to provide a fairly accurate how many MPG you are getting since we know the tank capacity is directly proportionate to the digital meter gauge.
Bubber Posted January 27, 2013 #15 Posted January 27, 2013 I would be interested in the fab part seeing that I have no knowledge of electronics. Would be interested in a 2nd gen one. Contact me if interested I am in North Branch, not to far away. Bubber aka Steve
Flyinfool Posted January 28, 2013 #17 Posted January 28, 2013 The fuel sender is not very accurate for trying to calculate MPG. If you get a flow meter to put in the gas line you can get very accurate results. From the speedo and the flow meter you can do instantaneous and/or average MPG.
motorcycle.jockey Posted March 22, 2013 #18 Posted March 22, 2013 Has this project died? I've thought about using an inexpensive Android tablet as a replacement or supplemental dash. But I don't have the knowledge to do it.
GothicJB Posted June 30, 2014 Author #19 Posted June 30, 2014 I actually have an arduino / iPad mini project I'm working on to digitalization the dash. Unfortunately I only get to work on it when I have time and money for the electronics. Buddy says I should find a way to mass produce them when I'm done. Not sure I want to deal with the liability though.
WildBill1 Posted June 30, 2014 #20 Posted June 30, 2014 Even though I'm a gage person I think your idea would work on 1st & 2nd Gen. bikes. Harley is doing this on their new models this year. You run with your idea sounds great.
GAWildKat Posted June 30, 2014 #21 Posted June 30, 2014 Do you need another programmer for the project? Sounds like a project my husband might want to get involved with. Pm StormRaven if you're interested.
Shamue Posted June 30, 2014 #22 Posted June 30, 2014 I'm an electronic illiterate, but have wondered about a touch pad ignition for start and shut down. Could even arm an alarm system. ? Have been out a couple times on long trips when someone lost their key and the spare was in the trunk. (something like the keyless entry pads on newer vehicles) Just wanted to get some opinions, feedback and/or comments here on this idea/project. I'm putting together a 4.8" TFT Touchscreen instrument cluster for my 1983 Venture Royale Deluxe ... I want to replace the current dash/cluster with the touchscreen display that will show the following: Battery Voltage Fuel Guage with MPG reading Speed / RPMs Odometer / Tripometer Compass / GPS Turn Signals / hazards (when on) Outdoor and Engine Temp Clock with alarm Neutral Indicator (maybe indicator to show which gear as well) Side Stand / Kill Switch Indicator Burned out headlight and HI / LO tail, brake light failure indicator High beam indicator. Possibly Oil level indicator. (any additions or changes please comment and let me know) I'm also thinking that there could be a few user selectable display variations (themes). I have the electronics / programming know how to do this and I am planning on doing this for myself either way, but was wondering if others would be interested in this as well? Thanks, Jason
GothicJB Posted June 30, 2014 Author #23 Posted June 30, 2014 Keyless entry and / or starting with a passcode wouldn't be too hard to do. I'll add it to the features
azxvz1284 Posted September 16, 2014 #24 Posted September 16, 2014 Did this ever succeed to a final build? If so, can this be adapted to the First Gen? Thanks, Richard
SilvrT Posted September 16, 2014 #25 Posted September 16, 2014 Buy a Harley... they already have this
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