Replacing brake lines per maintance schedule recomendations.

[dingy]

A random thought occured when I was looking through the RSV Periodic Maintenance & Repair section of owners manual & saw this, "Replace the brake and clutch hoses every four years or if cracked or damaged."

 

How many people actually follow this recommendation?

 

I looked up the cost of parts for an RSV and cost at dealer would be around $350 for parts only.

 

Gary

[Squidley]

It would make sense unless it was a braided stainless line. We all know what happens to the stock 1st gen lines over time.

[slowrollwv]

I have two sets of the stock brake and clutch lines here. They are off a 2010 and a2009 RSV. Yours for the asing.

[midnightventure]

I couldn't remember ever seeing that recommendation. I just looked through the RSV manual and couldn't find it. I am wondering were did you see it?

[dingy]

Attached is a picture of the page from the owners manual. It is right after the periodic maintenance & minor repair charts that detail the service intervals. There is a notation in the chart section on brakes to see this note.

 

The manual I have has a publish date of April 2002, so it was probably for the 2003 model year.

 

Gary

[Carbon_One]

I replaced all of my hyd lines with SS and it only cost under $222 including shipping from http://www.pashnit.com/product/galfer/brake_lines.html#yamaha. That included the clutch line, rear brake, & complete front lines for a 2nd gen. Also at that cost I had to add $10 for an extra 2" for the front brake resevoir to Tee & clutch line due to adding Flanders bars. So a standard line change would come out to a couple "C" notes

Larry

[Flyinfool]

Heck the line above that one says to replace the seals in the master and slave cylinders every 2 years. I'll bet no one does that either.

 

I guess it is time to call Earl....

[skydoc_17]

Hey Jeff,

I offer a S.S. Line Set, With VMAX Splitter AND S.S. Adapter Bracket for BOTH the First and Second Gens. On the First Gens., this will require the De-Linking of the front and rear brakes. I understand that Rick at Buckeye offers the S.S. stock replacement lines if you are NOT interested in De-Linking the front and rear brakes.

Here is the link for the First Gens.:

http://www.venturerider.org/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=3878&title=first-gens-sbrake-line-delink-kit-21&cat=22

 

Here is the link for the Second Gens.:

http://www.venturerider.org/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=4052&title=second-gens-sbrake-2fclutch-5-line-set-21&cat=22

 

A link to ALL of the items I offer in the "Member Vendor" Classifieds:

http://www.venturerider.org/classifieds/showcat.php?cat=500&ppuser=4738

 

Once you upgrade to the S.S. line set, the four year rule pretty much "goes out the window". Not to mention much better braking.

Earl

[midnightventure]

I probably read the manual at least twice back in 2002 and missed that. I do believe they have their maintenance schedule made up to optimize profits for the dealers. I had a front brake line on my DR that had been replaced by the P.O. with SS break down just south of Eureka Springs,AR. My foot slipped on some gravel and I grabbed a big handful of brake trying to hold it up. Resistance and then nothing. Turned out it had been rubbing on something out of sight and wore almost through. Went back up into Eureka Springs and found a shop that rented DRs. He had one he was planning to put on one of his bikes. Sold it to me, gave me shop space and dug out his tools for me to use before I could get mine dug out. I was back on the rode in an hour.

[Miles]

Sorry, but I wear my bikes out before it is time to replace the rubber brake lines.

[First_N_Last]

Hey Jeff,

I offer a S.S. Line Set, With VMAX Splitter AND S.S. Adapter Bracket for BOTH the First and Second Gens. On the First Gens., this will require the De-Linking of the front and rear brakes. I understand that Rick at Buckeye offers the S.S. stock replacement lines if you are NOT interested in De-Linking the front and rear brakes.

Here is the link for the First Gens.:

http://www.venturerider.org/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=3878&title=first-gens-sbrake-line-delink-kit-21&cat=22

 

Here is the link for the Second Gens.:

http://www.venturerider.org/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=4052&title=second-gens-sbrake-2fclutch-5-line-set-21&cat=22

 

A link to ALL of the items I offer in the "Member Vendor" Classifieds:

http://www.venturerider.org/classifieds/showcat.php?cat=500&ppuser=4738

 

Once you upgrade to the S.S. line set, the four year rule pretty much "goes out the window". Not to mention much better braking.

Earl

 

Nice job on the kits Earl.

BTW - thinking of adding the speed bleeders as an add-on?

 

JohnnyB

[djh3]

Hmm could someone point me in the direction of the "linked" brake thread. Which is OEM? sounds backwards. To bad ABS is not an option.

[M61A1MECH]

Linked brakes were available on some MKI Venture Royales, to my knowledge, never available on the 2nd Gen Royal Star Ventures. I have not head of anyone trying to or wanting to link the front and rear brakes on the 2nd Gens, normally it is some one wanting to de-link their MKI brakes.

[dingy]

Linked brakes were available on some MKI Venture Royales, to my knowledge, never available on the 2nd Gen Royal Star Ventures. I have not head of anyone trying to or wanting to link the front and rear brakes on the 2nd Gens, normally it is some one wanting to de-link their MKI brakes.

 

The linked brakes were standard on all 1st gen Ventures through out the production life of the bike, 1983-1993.

 

The linked brakes connected the left front caliper to the rear brake master via a metering valve located near the key switch. On the rear master cylinder there is a proportioning valve in line to the rear caliper. The intent was to provide a 60/40 brake effort to the left front & rear rotor.

 

The right front caliper was operated by the front master cylinder.

 

Gary

[PGunn]

One thing I may have missed here and for those wondering whats the difference between the stainless lines and the stock rubber lines.

 

The stock are rubber with reinforced nylon braiding around the inner hose then a rubber layer over the nylon and the interior hose. The hoses disintegrate over time and the UV light will dry out the rubber allowing it to crack.

 

The stainless lines should have a PTFE inner hose (Teflon) then the braided stainless is added for strength and protection. the Teflon is not affected by the brake fluid plus they look good. Lines of this nature you are better off having someone who knows how to make them for you than trying it yourself, last thing you want is one coming apart at the wrong time.

 

One advantage also to the stainless is they expand very little under pressure compared to the rubber hoses which translates to more pressure at the caliper.