First_N_Last Posted December 5, 2012 #1 Posted December 5, 2012 Here I go... New to me Trike & now I need to Check it over, setup & add-ons: 1) Get out the Mecury Carb-Sync - checked OK - no need to adjust 2) removed stock ignition & replaced with DynaTek 3000 - set on performance profile 3 with red line of 7,500 rpm 3) removed stock clutch pressure plate - installed/converted to Barnett Clutch Spring Conversion plate (good old purple) 4) checked out HID headlight kit - decided against it 5) ordered Signal Dynamics Diamond Star headlight modulator 6) ordered Diamond Star Plug & Play harness 7) ordered Hella H4 100/80 Halon watt bulb for headlight 8) ordered qty.4 NGK DPR8EIX-9 Iridium IX Spark Plugs 9) one passing lamp failed so I checked out converting to lens & H3 Halogen bulbs - decided against it & needed rewiring 10) ordered qty.2 Passing Lamp Bulbs - Bulbrite HX36PAR36WFL 36-Watt Halogen/Xenon Sealed Beam PAR36 10) ordered 5-layer felt lined Trike cover - using/covering Trike with my old cover used on my Z4 11) ordered custom license plate GhostR Now I'm preparing to move add-ons from old bike to new bike when these parts get in & I have a nice weather day. I'll continue this as I progress. JohnB
leo3wheel Posted December 5, 2012 #2 Posted December 5, 2012 John, I have an '09 RSV Hannigan trike with 15,000 miles, and I'm wondering how big a deal it is to install the Barnett Clutch Spring Conversion plate. Is this something that could be done at Freebird's Maintenance Day? Wondering because I have a long trip planned, 2 up and pulling a trailer through the Rockies. Thanks!
First_N_Last Posted December 5, 2012 Author #3 Posted December 5, 2012 John, I have an '09 RSV Hannigan trike with 15,000 miles, and I'm wondering how big a deal it is to install the Barnett Clutch Spring Conversion plate. Is this something that could be done at Freebird's Maintenance Day? Wondering because I have a long trip planned, 2 up and pulling a trailer through the Rockies. Thanks! ------------------------------ Upgrading to Barnett Clutch Plate Spring Conversion takes about a hour... - get new clutch cover gasket - get Barnett kit - get engine oil for drain & fill - get cam type Allen Metric Wrenches 1 drain engine oil 2 remove bolts from clutch cover - lay them out so you know what bolt goes where 3 tap clutch cover with rubber mallet - remove cover 4 clean old gasket off cover & case as needed 5 remove 6 bolts holding clutch spring ring - then remove ring - then remove old clutch spring & clutch plate 6 double check & insure that inside case & cover is clean from any parts of old gasket 7 install new Barnett clutch plate on clutch basket assembly - you mave have to remove & rotate a couple times to get the plate to seat properly 8 then install Barnett the six spring/bolts as in the Barnett instructions - don't over tighten 9 put new gasket on - then cleaned clutch cover - reinstall cover bolts in holes as they were originally - tighten 10 insure you installed & tightened oil drain plug & add oil that's it - quick & easy
leo3wheel Posted December 5, 2012 #4 Posted December 5, 2012 Doesn't sound bad. Guess I just have to get the nerve. I can start by gathering the parts. Thanks for the detailed instructions!
XV1100SE Posted December 5, 2012 #5 Posted December 5, 2012 ------------------------------ Upgrading to Barnett Clutch Plate Spring Conversion takes about a hour... I've never done one but I think on a 2 wheeler it is best to have the bike on the side stand so it leans to the left... that way you don't lose oil after draining it. On a trike I believe people have suggested raising the right rear wheel to get an angle on the bike.
Carbon_One Posted December 5, 2012 #6 Posted December 5, 2012 Looks like you'll be busy for a while Leo. Like Bob says the clutch job is pretty straight forward. Deffineately do a clutch upgrade thou. I'm going to use one of SkyDoc's heavy duty kits. Larry
First_N_Last Posted December 5, 2012 Author #7 Posted December 5, 2012 Looks like you'll be busy for a while Leo. Like Bob says the clutch job is pretty straight forward. Deffineately do a clutch upgrade thou. I'm going to use one of SkyDoc's heavy duty kits. Larry SkyDoc's Heavy Spring & added clutch plate worked great for my 2008 RSV. A bit grabby, but it grabbed & fixed slipping clutch. However, because you have to remove every clutch plate & friction plate as well as a wire & two additional parts to toss... it gets to be a bit tedious for less experienced maintenance folks. It is do-able, but tedious & tricky. SkyDoc's $90 with all parts & gasket - good instructions (more effort to do) Barnett is often $140+ - you have to order a gasket yourself - easy instructions - & extra friction plate if you want that also (no instructions on doing that). For Trike & Trailering, I recommend the Barnett (extra plate not needed then). For 2 wheel, I recommend saving the money & getting SkyDoc's. JohnB
bongobobny Posted December 5, 2012 #8 Posted December 5, 2012 Yah!! Plus 1 on replacing the clutch! The stock clutch is one of the weak points on the RSV to begin with, and any trike conversion is going to add weight and put a little more strain on the clutch so replacement was one of the best things you can do!!! The next thingyou might want to consider is improving on the brake system. I personally found the Hasnnigan rear brake system to be very poor but I was victim to one of the earlier setups with the rotor/pad combination that completely burned out the brakes in about 300 miles or so. Their current setup with the cross driled rotors is an improvement but if you want real stopping power especially 2 up hauling a trailer on the interstate you need to go to a bigger master cylinder and Honda Civic calipers and rotors...
leo3wheel Posted December 5, 2012 #9 Posted December 5, 2012 Thanks folks! Really appreciate your feedback.
XV1100SE Posted December 5, 2012 #10 Posted December 5, 2012 Good post on installing the clutch upgrade - http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?postid=726533 This post talks about draining all the oil from a trike... http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?p=445073
bikenut Posted December 6, 2012 #12 Posted December 6, 2012 If you plan to use the Branett system then you need to get the heavy duty spring they have now for the ventures. Branett Part # 501-82-06023 This info came from Branett because I cantacted them to see if they had better springs. They said it will increase your clutch pull about 10 % I did not notice any change. I just install them in my bike with the clutch upgrade by adding a full friction plate were the 1/2 was and now we have hook up. I pull a trailer 95 % of the time . works great now. Good luck
TheKid Posted December 6, 2012 #14 Posted December 6, 2012 Yah!! Plus 1 on replacing the clutch! The stock clutch is one of the weak points on the RSV to begin with, and any trike conversion is going to add weight and put a little more strain on the clutch so replacement was one of the best things you can do!!! The next thingyou might want to consider is improving on the brake system. I personally found the Hasnnigan rear brake system to be very poor but I was victim to one of the earlier setups with the rotor/pad combination that completely burned out the brakes in about 300 miles or so. Their current setup with the cross driled rotors is an improvement but if you want real stopping power especially 2 up hauling a trailer on the interstate you need to go to a bigger master cylinder and Honda Civic calipers and rotors... BongoBobNY, How do you do the upgrade on brakes? Dad has the original Hannigan trike breaks.
leo3wheel Posted December 6, 2012 #15 Posted December 6, 2012 I stopped at the Hannigan factory in Kentucky, while on a trip. They upgraded our brakes free of charge.
Bones158 Posted December 6, 2012 #16 Posted December 6, 2012 Leo, I replaced mine (Barnett) and u don't have to drain the oil if don't need to. You only loose about a tablespoon after opening the side. Kidd-- Congrats on your marrage!! Looks like your Dad hasent sold his wing yet, that was a good deal. R U back home in NC or back in Nashville after your honeymoon?
TheKid Posted December 6, 2012 #18 Posted December 6, 2012 I stopped at the Hannigan factory in Kentucky, while on a trip. They upgraded our brakes free of charge. What year trike kit is yours? My dad's is an 07. I called about doing it but they didn't let me know how much or how?
leo3wheel Posted December 6, 2012 #19 Posted December 6, 2012 What year trike kit is yours? My dad's is an 07. I called about doing it but they didn't let me know how much or how? Our '09 RSV was converted in the summer of '10. Service manager Jim Gooch did the brake upgrade for us. Told Jim I would be in the area, and asked if our trike could get the upgrade. He did the work himself, new rotors, pads and tire balancing. He did not charge us. Some folks with older trikes have had Jim send them the parts, and they did the work themselves. Talk with Jim and see what he can do for your dad.
ragtop69gs Posted December 6, 2012 #20 Posted December 6, 2012 The free upgrade is on bikes converted within a 3 month span in late 2009 thru early 2010 is what I was told, and only applies to bikes built with the mismatched pad and rotor combination. WMMV
leo3wheel Posted December 6, 2012 #21 Posted December 6, 2012 The free upgrade is on bikes converted within a 3 month span in late 2009 thru early 2010 is what I was told, and only applies to bikes built with the mismatched pad and rotor combination. WMMV Our trike does not fit this window. I complained about squealing brakes, and got no resistance. Know of someone who got a conversion after us, and he was upgraded to the new brakes. Not sure if his dealer did the work for him. The upgrade is standard on all new RSV conversions. Love our new brakes! Never hear a sound now.
First_N_Last Posted December 7, 2012 Author #22 Posted December 7, 2012 Some mod parts have arrived & others have been ordered... Received: - Hella 8GJ002525-501 H4 100/80 watt Halogen bulb & spare arrived - 2 Bulbrite XP Sealed Beam PAR-36 Halogen-Xenon bulbs Ordered: - Barnett HD clutch spring set (Green) - another clutch cover gasket - correct clutch friction plate Not enough stuff to start modding again yet... JohnB
ragtop69gs Posted December 7, 2012 #23 Posted December 7, 2012 Our trike does not fit this window. I complained about squealing brakes, and got no resistance. Know of someone who got a conversion after us, and he was upgraded to the new brakes. Not sure if his dealer did the work for him. The upgrade is standard on all new RSV conversions. Love our new brakes! Never hear a sound now. Maybe they have softened there stance on it then. That is why I can't say enough good things about Hannigan Motorsports. They are a class act.:clap2:
bongobobny Posted December 8, 2012 #24 Posted December 8, 2012 BongoBobNY, How do you do the upgrade on brakes? Dad has the original Hannigan trike breaks.Sorry for the delay getting back to you. For thye rear I ended up installing stock Honda Civic/CRX calipers and rotors which bolt on. Unfortunately you have to change the SS brake lines to banjo style fittings as the location of the lines using the hannigan ones gets in the way of the frame. Now to power the larger calipers you have to replace the rear master cylinder with a larger bore master. I used a Wilwood 13/16" master cylinder and cut off/ground off one of the mounting ears. I made an adapter plate and cut up my stock brake pedal assembly to mount it along with the master cylinder onto my home made adapter plate. You also either have to come up with an adapter for the brake line or replace that line as well as the Wilwood is SAE thread and the existing brake line is Metric. Good time to come up with a replacement brake line that is SS instead of the stock rubber one. It was a lot of work and trial and error but I now have twice the stopping power over the Hannigan setup. There is a thread in this forum detailing the conversion and the trials and tribulations encountered as I was doing it... http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=67814
First_N_Last Posted December 8, 2012 Author #25 Posted December 8, 2012 My CarsCover Trike cover arrived last night & was just put on... 5 layers & soft felt lined...
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