sidecar mounts

[k9cottage]

just wondering if anyone has any photos of the way their sidecar mounts attach to a second gen 99 .i just picked up a sidecar and before i start making mounts wanted to see how others have attached theirs. thanks

[k9cottage]

looks like nobody has a sidecar on a 99 rsv

[Carbon_One]

Look in the 2nd gen classifieds. Someone there has a 99 with sidecar for sale. Maybe get some pics from the current owner.

http://www.venturerider.org/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=4330&title=99-rsv-with-02-sidecar&cat=4

Larry

[wes0778]

looks like nobody has a sidecar on a 99 rsv

 

Oh yes they do!!!

 

Pictures to follow

[54chevybelair]

I designed mine for a 04 RSV. I will send pictures when I am at a PC.

Edited October 29, 2012 by 54chevybelair

[MJ44]

looks like nobody has a sidecar on a 99 rsv

I do! Found the pictures, but they won't upload here. I sent you an email

Edited October 29, 2012 by MJ44

[wes0778]

Oh yes they do!!!

 

Pictures to follow

 

I think the Velorex dealer must have "manufactured" these two brackets when they installed it on Rooster's '99. The bottom one (next to the rear brake master cylinder) looks to be one of the Velorex factory mounts. Both of the other bracket are held to the M/C frame with what looks to be muffler clamps. I think they are a little stronger than the run of the mill clamp. I had to have the rear bracket reinforced in the bottom bend.

[54chevybelair]

K9, I did just what you are doing earlier this year. I can give you a ton of information if you tell me what you want. What sidecar are you mounting?

[wes0778]

K9, I did just what you are doing earlier this year. I can give you a ton of information if you tell me what you want. What sidecar are you mounting?

 

I'd be interested to see what ideas you may have on mounting a Velorex.

 

Not sure what I have is the "best" idea...

[k9cottage]

K9, I did just what you are doing earlier this year. I can give you a ton of information if you tell me what you want. What sidecar are you mounting?

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am mounting a DJP sidecar just needed to see how others have got around the airbox in the front to get to the frame the bottom front will be mounted using the foot boards 4 bolts but keep it narrow so i can still get to the oil filter .on the back will be using the existing centre stand bracket will post picks when i get it done.

[54chevybelair]

This is what I did on the upper front. It will not help you much because you don't have a split on the left side of the frame.

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This is what others have done.

 

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Edited November 1, 2012 by 54chevybelair

[lsutley]

I designed mine for a 04 RSV. I will send pictures when I am at a PC.

 

Very nice work. I have had some difficulty keeping the frame tube clamps from slipping on my MKII installation. A modified version of your design would be much more stable.

 

Off to the drawing board!!

[wes0778]

This is what I did on the upper front. It will not help you much because you don't have a split on the left side of the frame.

http://venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=72540&stc=1&d=1351642519

 

http://venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=72541&stc=1&d=1351642519

 

http://venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=72542&stc=1&d=1351642519

 

This is what others have done.

 

http://venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=72543&stc=1&d=1351642895

 

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[54chevybelair]

This is a CAD model of what I have done. There is not much frame detail but the frame rear lower mount clamps to the frame in 2 places and bolts to 2 other places on the frame to prevent rotation and I also bolted it to a bracket on the crosstube. I don't know what this bracket was for but it was there so I gave it more strength. I think I fixed the other pictures.

http://venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=72563&stc=1&d=1351739944

[k9cottage]

This is a CAD model of what I have done. There is not much frame detail but the frame rear lower mount clamps to the frame in 2 places and bolts to 2 other places on the frame to prevent rotation and I also bolted it to a bracket on the crosstube. I don't know what this bracket was for but it was there so I gave it more strength. I think I fixed the other pictures.

http://venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=72563&stc=1&d=1351739944

 

very nice job. i am just about to start on the rear lower bracket thanks to everyone for your help much appreciated

[54chevybelair]

I apologize for taking so long to post this.

Anyhow, I bought a used Champion Escort with full intention of buying a manufactured set of mounts specific for the RSV. I first contacted Champion directly and inquired about buying mounts. They offered them for $1000.00 a set. Money doesn’t go into my wallet very easy and it leaves even harder so I had a hard time with the price. But I was able to look at what they offered and I wasn’t impressed. A majority of the forces reacting from the sidecar are on the rear lower and upper mounts. Champion mounts one piece of tubing to the side of the bike for the rear upper and lower mounts and some of the mounting points don’t appear to be very strong.

http://venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=72852&stc=1&d=1353591490

 

http://venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=72853&stc=1&d=1353591490

 

 

Next I looked at DMC sidecars. They offered a set of mounts for $675.00. The reason I didn’t buy from them is because they didn’t offer any pictures or couldn’t tell me how they attached or anything else for that matter. In the end they admitted they had only built one set and didn’t have much information. Now I must be clear, I am not bashing DMC as they get great reviews within the sidecar community, I am just stating my experience and why I choose not to buy from them.

The next place looked was Motorvation engineering. These people were great to talk to and they offered plenty of pictures and a price list online. Their complete set of mounts was about $700.00. The lower rear mount they use is just a frame clamp. This concerned me because the “Truss like” triangulation of the mounting arms causes forces (parallel to the ground) on the lower mounts. This would constantly be trying to spin the lower rear clamp.

http://www.motorvation.com/rystmts1.htm

I know what you’re thinking, will anything make this guy happy? Well I am hard to please and I expect a lot for my money. I had exhausted my options of buying a set of mounting hardware and decided to build my own. I did buy one clamp from Motorvation to use under the seat. The rest of my mounts are made from 10GA (0.135”) steel.

 

http://venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=72854&stc=1&d=1353592093

http://venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=72855&stc=1&d=1353592724

http://venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=72856&stc=1&d=1353592840

 

http://venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=72857&stc=1&d=1353593040