midnightrider1300 Posted October 9, 2012 Author #26 Posted October 9, 2012 From the number of comments lately in different threads for the need to be armed when riding in the States.... is it safe to travel there any more? Are things that bad???? I wouldn't even consider a gun as necessary when travelling in Canada. Sorry... this isn't about being for or against guns. Its about whether or not you feel safe while travelling. I don't carry a gun & I see no need in carrying a gun... If you read my threads I don't lock doors or take my keys out of vehicles..and if I started across country I'd feel safe...
cabreco Posted October 9, 2012 #27 Posted October 9, 2012 From the number of comments lately in different threads for the need to be armed when riding in the States.... is it safe to travel there any more? Are things that bad???? I wouldn't even consider a gun as necessary when traveling in Canada. Sorry... this isn't about being for or against guns. Its about whether or not you feel safe while traveling. In Canada, you basically have no choice (or gun rights) When I lived in NYC, I had no choice either. I was lucky that I was never a victim. Since I moved, I carry. It's not about feeling safe, it's about being prepared. In the same light as I would never drive without a spare tire in my car. I've never used my spare and I hope I never do; but in case of a flat I have a a remedy. Things are not that bad if you are aware of your surroundings, but occasionally there is the nut job, wannabe gangster or desperate drug addict that uses violence to further their agenda. I hope I am fortunate enough to NEVER have to unholster my weapon, but it is a fact of life that the police cannot be everywhere to protect people.
MikeWa Posted October 9, 2012 #28 Posted October 9, 2012 From the number of comments lately in different threads for the need to be armed when riding in the States.... is it safe to travel there any more? Are things that bad???? I wouldn't even consider a gun as necessary when traveling in Canada. Sorry... this isn't about being for or against guns. Its about whether or not you feel safe while traveling. Last time I looked the crime rates for Canada and the US were pretty similar. So yes it is safe to ride in the US and Canadians are welcome visitors. However there are thieves everywhere so be smart about it. It wouldn't be wise to shoot someone over a gps. You would be in the right of course but the legal fees and hassle would far outweigh the cost of a replacement. i carry a bike cover and use it each night when on the road. Also thank the hotel and or other guest for the heads up and running the bg off. Mike
cabreco Posted October 9, 2012 #29 Posted October 9, 2012 It wouldn't be wise to shoot someone over a gps. You would be in the right of course but the legal fees and hassle would far outweigh the cost of a replacement. Mike I agree absolutely Mike, the comment Donny was making was: ....I told my wife I guess it was good I didn't catch some1 cause I would have confronted them & my luck the SOB would had a gun & killed my AS$.. That's the concern, defending yourself against a violent attack from a criminal.
rickardracing Posted October 9, 2012 #30 Posted October 9, 2012 From the number of comments lately in different threads for the need to be armed when riding in the States.... is it safe to travel there any more? Are things that bad???? I wouldn't even consider a gun as necessary when travelling in Canada. Sorry... this isn't about being for or against guns. Its about whether or not you feel safe while travelling. There have only been a few times when traveling either in a car or on the bike I wish I would have had something. It's really overkill and unnecessary.
cabreco Posted October 10, 2012 #31 Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) It's easy to see how some discussions can get out of control due to different philosophcal views 1 Police are only a cell phone call away. 2 "take the law into their hands". Some take a more proactive approach. Yes, I agree the police are only a cell call away, but by then you may be asking for an ambulance not protection. Self protection is not "taking the law into your own hands". That's like saying performing CPR is practicing medicine without a license. Why learn CPR when EMS is only a call away. It's all in how you view it. I live on the philosophy of "to each his own". There are many places where carry is forbiden, I do feel safe in general, I go to Canada & NYC a lot; but then I do have extensive martial arts training. Personally, I hate carrying, & I really have no desire to take a life...but I have no desire to give mine or my family's life up. Edited October 10, 2012 by cabreco
RedRider Posted October 10, 2012 #32 Posted October 10, 2012 As another option: http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/1735/PN-065-0523/TOURATECH-Zumo-660-665-Handlebar-Mount-V2-0-Locking-Silver RR
Kirby Posted October 10, 2012 #33 Posted October 10, 2012 Kinda looks pointless if used with the Ram Mount system.
ragtop69gs Posted October 10, 2012 #34 Posted October 10, 2012 There have only been a few times when traveling either in a car or on the bike I wish I would have had something. It's really overkill and unnecessary. It's only unnecessary till you need it, then, nothing else will do. Your first statement proves that.
JohnT Posted October 10, 2012 #35 Posted October 10, 2012 And you live where?:rotf: He lives the same kind of place that I do. We lock our doors when we go on vacation. Key stays in the bike and my car. Wifey does take hers out. As for carrying a weapon on the bike. Long guns are legal more places and a .357 lever action rifle is a nice unconcealed carry. Barrel as short as 16.5 inches are legal with no permit. Or an empty rifle boot may make the rat bAst@&? think twice.
Cougar Posted October 10, 2012 #36 Posted October 10, 2012 Doesn't your Zumo come off the mount like the 550 does? I just remove my GPS and lock it in the trunk
Freebird Posted October 10, 2012 #37 Posted October 10, 2012 I agree and what am I missing here. You have a $175.00 locking mount secured to the ball mount with a big wing nut. Just loosen the wing nut and take the whole thing? I don't get it.
aharbi Posted October 11, 2012 #38 Posted October 11, 2012 I have to agree on taking the GPS out. Shoot depending on how I feel about it, sometimes when I stop for a BREAK OR LUNCH ALONG THE WAY i PULL THE UNIT OUT AND PUT IT AWAY. (oops sorry hit that key, not yelling) I cover the bike just for the previous mentioned reason, outa site out of mind. Keeps prying eyes out. Glad all your gear is there. Ditto. Have to agree. I do the same thing and I get a better nights sleep when I travel on the bike. Peace of mind, don't have to keep rechecking it 25 times a nite. I also have motion, shock, voltage sensor alarm with a 1/2 mile range fob.
twigg Posted October 11, 2012 #39 Posted October 11, 2012 From the number of comments lately in different threads for the need to be armed when riding in the States.... is it safe to travel there any more? Are things that bad???? I wouldn't even consider a gun as necessary when travelling in Canada. Sorry... this isn't about being for or against guns. Its about whether or not you feel safe while travelling. Yes, it's perfectly safe with a modicum of care and good sense. Except maybe when someone shoots you for admiring their GPS, because they thought you might be trying to steal it. The simple truth is that violent crime against strangers is still very rare, even in the United States. There are small areas where the dangers are higher ... avoid them.
Guest scarylarry Posted October 11, 2012 #40 Posted October 11, 2012 He lives the same kind of place that I do. We lock our doors when we go on vacation. Key stays in the bike and my car. Wifey does take hers out. As for carrying a weapon on the bike. Long guns are legal more places and a .357 lever action rifle is a nice unconcealed carry. Barrel as short as 16.5 inches are legal with no permit. Or an empty rifle boot may make the rat bAst@&? think twice. Your car stays outside?
rickardracing Posted October 11, 2012 #41 Posted October 11, 2012 It's only unnecessary till you need it, then, nothing else will do. Your first statement proves that. Jay, I understand where your coming from. When I went to Arizona for work, there were a few times I wish I had been carrying. I do believe it is not really necessary and one of the main reasons I do not carry is my temper. There are times I get mad enough, if I had a gun, someone would get shot. Maybe I need to grow up more and work on the anger issue. Maybe someday I will carry. I have concidered getting my permit, it is my right, but at this point in my life, it's not for me. I do respect the rights of poeple that do carry.
RedRider Posted October 11, 2012 #42 Posted October 11, 2012 I agree and what am I missing here. You have a $175.00 locking mount secured to the ball mount with a big wing nut. Just loosen the wing nut and take the whole thing? I don't get it. This setup is actually designed to mount directly onto the bars (or a cross bar) and not onto a RAM mount. I use one for my 276C on the KLR. It would likely require some modification to work as designed on the Venture. However, it does provide a metal, locking mounting for the Zumo that can be tethered to the bike with a wire. Wouldn't prevent the professional thief, but they are not the ones stealing GPS' out of a parking lot. One reason for the expense of this mount are the shock absorbers. They allows using the Zumo on off road motorcycle applications. However, it does provide security and is a very high quality mount. RR
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