IF buying a bike out of state....

[Guest Swifty]

What is the owner of a bike with title in hand thinking about or worrying about if he says this in his ad...

"PLEASE FLORIDA BUYER ONLY/TITLE MUST BE TRANSFERRED IN A TAG AGENCY BEFORE BUYER LEAVES WITH BIKE."

[Guest scarylarry]

That is a new one on me...

 

Maybe he had issues before, I bought a bike in Pitts a few years ago handed him the cash and rode it home with title and bill of sale...

 

Side note never buy bike in Pitts, in April when you are from the south and you leave and it 75+ degrees, temps do drop as you head north...30 degrees and all I had was short sleeve shirt...Nope was not thinking that day

[rickardracing]

Must have gotten burned or is just paranoid. My dad is like that. Thinks everyone is out to screw him.

I live in Michigan and bought my wifes bike in N. Carolina and I bought mine in Maryland. No issues.

[MiCarl]

What is the owner of a bike with title in hand thinking about or worrying about if he says this in his ad...

"PLEASE FLORIDA BUYER ONLY/TITLE MUST BE TRANSFERRED IN A TAG AGENCY BEFORE BUYER LEAVES WITH BIKE."

 

Some people think that if they don't accompany the buyer to transfer title they might be liable for something in the future. We bought a boat once from a guy who demanded that we go with him present and transfer the title.

 

There might be something to it. In Michigan the law requires a seller to either retain a photocopy of the signed title or accompany the buyer for the title transfer.

[jfoster]

Cash and the bill of sale....just make sure he signs the title exactly as his name is on the title.

[djh3]

HMM I dunno. I have sold a couple cars down here. Once I sign off on the title and I have funds or acceptable barter in my hands I dont care if you use it to rob a bank. My worry is allways when I buy something and someone signs off, being able to transfer the title because someone didnt notorize it or something. I bought a race car and trailer in Ga one time and drove it all the way home to Fl with only a bill of sale. My guess is also somehow he got burned.

[Guest scarylarry]

Cash and the bill of sale....just make sure he signs the title exactly as his name is on the title.

 

Correct and look for the key words if two names are on it "AND" "OR"

[Flyinfool]

I got burned once.

Sold a car, signed the title, did a bill of sale. buyer had cash.

Buyer never registered it.

 

6 Months later, the police were knocking on my door because the car was use in a felony and still in my name.

My lawyer bill was 10X what I got for the car.

I now meet the seller at the DMV for the sale.

[GeorgeS]

In Washington, you simply notify the Dept. of Licencing immediatly upon the sale.

You can do it on the internet here.

Or, simply stop at the Dept of licencing office on the way to the bank to deposit your money from the sale.

 

I have done it several times after selling a vehical, just jump in the car, and head for the DOL office, a special form on the back of the title paper that you normaly keep in the car with you.

[bongobobny]

Yah! What happens is people drive around on the PO's old plates until they get pulled over. Highly illegal but people do it all the time...

[Eck]

(Quote) "PLEASE FLORIDA BUYER ONLY/TITLE MUST BE TRANSFERRED IN A TAG AGENCY BEFORE BUYER LEAVES WITH BIKE."

 

 

My two cents for what its worth..

To avoid car title problems, complete the sale of the vehicle and title transfer at a state Driver & Vehicle Services location. The DVS agent can review the title and see whether there are any liens on it. The buyer and seller can transfer title on the spot and avoid problems filling in the blanks, signing it, or mailing it to the DVS.

I personally feel this is a fool proof way the SELLER not only gets his money for his vehicle, but it also releases him of any future legal issues as soon as the buyer leaves his premises. If the buyer left his premises and got into an accident/damages anothers property,or robs a joint and uses the vehicle for the get away car and or causes damage to anothers property during his getaway efforts, the buyer (if he lived...) could get up and run away from the scene of the accident / damages and the seller would be out of his bike and "possibly" held liable for damages since the title of the vehicle was not transfered at the time of sale. He can avoid any legal battles right then and there by transfereing the title..done, over, it is not his vehicle..period..

 

I have been seeing this more and more with vehicle ad from florida...

[Guest Swifty]

Yah! What happens is people drive around on the PO's old plates until they get pulled over. Highly illegal but people do it all the time...

sheesh, I don't get it. Who would leave their plates on a vehicle after they've sold it? Don't you bring your own plates when you go to buy a used vehicle? I don't understand the process south of the border. What is the process, step by step??

[Flyinfool]

sheesh, I don't get it. Who would leave their plates on a vehicle after they've sold it? Don't you bring your own plates when you go to buy a used vehicle? I don't understand the process south of the border. What is the process, step by step??

 

It varies state by state and even between different vehicle types.

Some require the plates stay with the vehicle. The seller is not permitted to keep them.

[jfoster]

sheesh, I don't get it. Who would leave their plates on a vehicle after they've sold it? Don't you bring your own plates when you go to buy a used vehicle? I don't understand the process south of the border. What is the process, step by step??

 

A lot of people down here do. The last one I bought, I had to tell the guy to take his plate and go to the dmv to have it cancelled. Most people don't think about it, but like flying said it varies from state to state.

[ragtop69gs]

Could be he's afraid of being held liable in case the buyer has an accident with the bike before transfering the title.

I once sold a car to some kid who took it out into the woods and used it as a speed bump for their bigfoot trucks when they were done with it, they left it there and burned it, Guess who the state police called when they found it !! Good thing I had a signed bill of sale from the buyer.

[rickardracing]

Could be he's afraid of being held liable in case the buyer has an accident with the bike before transfering the title.

I once sold a car to some kid who took it out into the woods and used it as a speed bump for their bigfoot trucks when they were done with it, they left it there and burned it, Guess who the state police called when they found it !! Good thing I had a signed bill of sale from the buyer.

 

 

Jay, that's freaking awesome!!!

[bongobobny]

sheesh, I don't get it. Who would leave their plates on a vehicle after they've sold it? Don't you bring your own plates when you go to buy a used vehicle? I don't understand the process south of the border. What is the process, step by step??

Yes, what FF said!! In some states the plate stays with the vehicle...

[Trader]

I sold a camper thru a consignment dealer.

 

Never even thought about the plates.

 

Over a year later I got a bill from a toll highway in Toronto.

 

It was only $25 or so...but still a surprise.

 

I had to go to the Police Station and report the plate "lost or stolen" to avoid the same thing happening again.

 

When I bought my bike from Illinois I rode all the way home, including crossing the border (with the proper paperwork) all with the Illinois plate on it.

[chabicheka]

What is the owner of a bike with title in hand thinking about or worrying about if he says this in his ad...

"PLEASE FLORIDA BUYER ONLY/TITLE MUST BE TRANSFERRED IN A TAG AGENCY BEFORE BUYER LEAVES WITH BIKE."

 

 

Thats a nice lookin' Goldwing you were looking at......

[dacheedah]

I purchased a bike in Florida, bought on ebay, met the owner and test drove and we went to an office or DMV and paid my fees and ended up with a temp tag ( Illinois calls them driveway permits) good for like 60 days. Lets you drive home, I had proof of insurance and a valid DL. You pay your state sales tax ( being from Illinois thats a nightmare because you pay tax based on the county you reside and not point of purchase, thanks Chicago for that one). Not a big deal and seller should be ok with it, correct paperwork and both sides are protected.

 

https://ffdhsmv.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/194/kw/temporary%20license%20plate

 

If you are an out-of-state resident, purchased a vehicle in Florida and want to drive it back home, you are eligible to obtain a temporary license plate for "in-transit" purposes. However, proof of insurance (from Florida or home state), proof of out of state residency such as a driver license, and sales tax in the amount required by your home state must be paid. If you feel you may be eligible for a temporary license plate, inquire through the local county tax collector's office.

[KIC]

I sold my KLR650 in February to a guy in New Mexico. I just got a call from him and some New Mexico paperwork he needed signed to change the title. It's still been in my name for 7 months...glad I kept the plate off of it when it left.

[JerryT]

Actally not a bad idea. To me the thing it does is prove that the bike has a clean title not a salvage title. If the PO totaled the bike, took the insurance payout and bought the bike back, he would still have original title. You won't know about salvage title until you go to DMV to tag it. IF your several states away, not much you can do but admitt you've been had. When looking at a bike, I suggest at least running the vin at the DMV before cash trades hands. Lot better to protect yourself theese days as there are people out there who might not tell the truth.

[pmelah]

its a shame people do bad things i bought my bike from 1rooster in NC towed it home on the trailer went to the county tag office on Tuesday after getting home Monday night transfer d the title and got my tag did not have a bill of sale just the title (i got a friend at the tag office) received my new MS title on my 1st gen 2 weeks ago next week i go back to the tag office and apply for antique tag for it with out of state titles MS usually wants a bill of sale to go with it but MS is not a bill of sale state this depends on the county your in and is to protect the PO

[Wrench]

I've learned a lot about the Ky. transfer process over the last couple of weeks. I sold my Roadstar to a buyer in Indiana, which just requred me to sign and notarize the title over to him, no problem. I went to the local DMV last week to transfer the Venture I bought, which was an in-state transfer, no problem there. I asked if the Roadstar had been transferred out of my name, PROBLEM! I was told that Ky. and Ind. DMV computers are not "linked", no shared info, which means that I have to turn in the plate before it will be released from my name here. It didn't cause him any problems titling it in Indiana, just causes me to continue to pay property taxes on it if I don't turn in the plate. The other option was for me to "junk" the title in Ky., which still would'nt affect him unless he sells the bike again, then the bad Ky. title would show up. I got the plate in the mail from the buyer today, so I'll get that taken care of tomorrow.

If you transfer an out-of-state vehicle into Ky. you have to have it inspected by the Sheriffs office in your county of residence. They check the VIN on the title against the vehicle to confirm it's correct. I know it's all supposed to protect the buyer, but it's sure sometimes a lot of inconvenience to get it all taken care of.

JerryT, in Ky. if you buy back a "totaled" vehicle you will receive a salvage title. The insurance company transfers it into their name at the time of settlement, and it's re-issued as a salvage vehicle, at least that's how it was handled back in '04.

[BradT]

Thats a nice lookin' Goldwing you were looking at......

 

Or a FJR

 

Brad