Semi-retired Posted August 30, 2012 #1 Posted August 30, 2012 OK.....I've done it again: I jammed something just a little too big into my right hand saddle bag and it's buggered the alignment on the latches so that I can't get it open. Don't laugh...it's a 15 kilogram bag of wild bird seed that's stuck in there...and it only cost 14 bucks, so I don't really give a damn about losing the feed...but I MIGHT wanna put my Frog Togs, or a six-pack in there sometime!! Anybody got a fool-proof way of wiggling or jiggling or removing a phantom bolt somewhere that will allow me to get this thing open before I go insane? Notes: the button won't depress. The rear latch is not locked down, so it's only the front that's causing the problem. The inside upper edge of the bag is bulging outward (toward the wheel) so much that it has to be pushed back into alignment before the lid can even be lowered into position. (starting to sound like I need to post pictures.....but I can't imagine they'd help much.) Anyone? Anyone?
XV1100SE Posted August 30, 2012 #2 Posted August 30, 2012 If I understand you correctly... you carried bird seed in your saddle bag and when you took it out the bag was deformed? Or the saddle bag lid is off in alignment? Have you tried taking the lid off and realigning the hinge?
Semi-retired Posted August 30, 2012 Author #3 Posted August 30, 2012 If I understand you correctly... you carried bird seed in your saddle bag and when you took it out the bag was deformed? Or the saddle bag lid is off in alignment? Have you tried taking the lid off and realigning the hinge? I say again: "...I jammed something just a little too big into my right hand saddle bag and it's buggered the alignment on the latches so that I can't get it open. Anybody got a fool-proof way of wiggling or jiggling or removing a phantom bolt somewhere that will allow me to get this thing open before I go insane?" The lid is JAMMED CLOSED AND CANNOT BE OPENED.
dacheedah Posted August 30, 2012 #4 Posted August 30, 2012 Happend to most at one time or another, I had my wife keep pushing the lid down and latch down while I tried to push the bags back into shape and ours came loose after about five minutes of frustration. Just can't get anything into the lock part. Once you get her open loosen the hardware and pull to the latches down and re tighten. This helps. Not much adjustment but a little does alot.
Semi-retired Posted September 1, 2012 Author #6 Posted September 1, 2012 How did you make out? Didn't, yet. Went to the CNE and stayed overnight in Toronto yesterday. Will have to tackle it Saturday morning and see what we can do. (I'm tempted to pierce the bag of bird seed by prying up the back end of the bag lid.......then inserting a piece of gasline that I'll maybe tape into my central vac hose or something. Thinking maybe if I can reduce the volume of the load a little I can take the pressure off the latches and spring it loose.) I'll let you know! Thanks for asking. Later, Mike.
pmelah Posted September 1, 2012 #7 Posted September 1, 2012 Didn't, yet. Went to the CNE and stayed overnight in Toronto yesterday. Will have to tackle it Saturday morning and see what we can do. (I'm tempted to pierce the bag of bird seed by prying up the back end of the bag lid.......then inserting a piece of gasline that I'll maybe tape into my central vac hose or something. Thinking maybe if I can reduce the volume of the load a little I can take the pressure off the latches and spring it loose.) I'll let you know! Thanks for asking. Later, Mike. that is my sugestion suck out some of the seed as much as possible then you should be able to close it and open without any problem the one latch has to much of a bind on it to let go reducing your volume should help take the pressure off the latch
dacheedah Posted September 1, 2012 #8 Posted September 1, 2012 http://venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=71529&highlight=saddlebag
hunter 1500 Posted September 1, 2012 #9 Posted September 1, 2012 Got the strap from lunch bag caught in the lock once and had a hell of a time getting the button to push down but I got it eventually.
Semi-retired Posted September 2, 2012 Author #10 Posted September 2, 2012 http://venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=71529&highlight=saddlebag Thanks for the links to the other miserable souls who've lived through this pain in the ass, Kevin; misery loves company. I'm gonna blame Yamaha for this one (AND everybody else's); there's obviously a design issue with bag contents getting "fouled" in the latch mechanisms (that's what it was in MY case, and what it sounds like with most other "victims") Come on, Japan......get with it! You guys are supposed to be design geniuses. Not seeing it here! By the way, Paul, that's exactly what I ended up doing: sneaked a blade in at the back end of the lid.........cut a slit in the birdseed bag....shoved in a piece of 1/2" neoprene tubing.....hooked the central vac up to it.....sucked out about 6 pounds of bird seed at which point I could jiggle the bag around enough to free it from the front latch. BOINK!......open she popped. THANK GOD!!! (Now we can head to the beach tomorrow with wifey's wardrobe stowed CAREFULLY in the bags!)
MikeWa Posted September 2, 2012 #11 Posted September 2, 2012 When I did this in the past I was able to lift the back of the lid slightly and use a long thin screwdriver to open the latch mechanism. Good Luck Mike
jaymacdoo Posted September 2, 2012 #12 Posted September 2, 2012 I am sure if the birds get hungry enough they will figure out a way to get it opened.
dacheedah Posted September 2, 2012 #13 Posted September 2, 2012 loosen the bolts, pull the mechanism as close to the opening as you can and tighten them again. Won't move much but makes a difference.
Semi-retired Posted September 3, 2012 Author #14 Posted September 3, 2012 loosen the bolts, pull the mechanism as close to the opening as you can and tighten them again. Won't move much but makes a difference. Hi, Kevin. Not sure what "question" you are answering.....but if it's "How do I get my gen 2 stuck saddle bag lid open".....there are no bolts which can be accessed without FIRST opening the lid. (catch 22......or, LATCH 22 in this case :-) Either way.....all is well now. Got it opened......straightened out the little metal doo-hickey that we had bent by trying so hard to force down on the locking button.....and everything works like a charm. No more over-packing the bags.......and double checking for fabric/plastic/whatever being stuck in the latches when closing. (Thanks again for all comments/suggestions)
gggGary Posted September 4, 2016 #15 Posted September 4, 2016 An old thread but thought I'd throw this here. When looking around the "in the day" RSV reviews all mentioned the bulkieness of the latch mechanism MY RSV use profile involves solo motorcycle camping and long travel. There is NEVER enough room, SO.... Lots more room, no chance of a stuck latch. the "catches are spring steel cut from a plumbers drain snake, torch heated and bent. They performed perfectly on a 2000 mile camping trip with no leaks in spite of hundreds of miles of rainy riding. The lock button replacement is an electrical "knockout cap" with a magic marker lock slot LOL. I will probably make a second set of latches at the rear attach bolt and do something better than electrical tape covering them... The latches are concealed enough that the average opportunity thief isn't going to figure out that's whats holding the lid shut. The rack that replaces the passenger seat was cut and welded from stainless steel hotel towel racks. Quick and easy to strap a tent, sleeping bag, folding chair and bagged rain suit to the rack. Easy to swap the passenger seat back in. Not for everyone, but I kinda have gotten to that point where I say I want stuff the way I want to use it, the heck with what others think!
DarrinGT Posted September 6, 2016 #16 Posted September 6, 2016 Thanks for the links to the other miserable souls who've lived through this pain in the ass, Kevin; misery loves company. I'm gonna blame Yamaha for this one (AND everybody else's); there's obviously a design issue with bag contents getting "fouled" in the latch mechanisms (that's what it was in MY case, and what it sounds like with most other "victims") Come on, Japan......get with it! You guys are supposed to be design geniuses. Not seeing it here! By the way, Paul, that's exactly what I ended up doing: sneaked a blade in at the back end of the lid.........cut a slit in the birdseed bag....shoved in a piece of 1/2" neoprene tubing.....hooked the central vac up to it.....sucked out about 6 pounds of bird seed at which point I could jiggle the bag around enough to free it from the front latch. BOINK!......open she popped. THANK GOD!!! (Now we can head to the beach tomorrow with wifey's wardrobe stowed CAREFULLY in the bags!) So now how are you dealing with all the Birds trying to get into yer Central Vac System,..?
Semi-retired Posted September 6, 2016 Author #17 Posted September 6, 2016 So now how are you dealing with all the Birds trying to get into yer Central Vac System,..? OH YEAH! And they even circle overhead when riding the bike. (Long lasting aroma, I guess). :-)
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