lazy biker Posted June 29, 2012 Share #1 Posted June 29, 2012 Alright i know spark plug replacement should be straight forward. But I've used every swear word i know, and I've even made up a few. I'm trying to get the new plug into the front cylinder on mt 85 venture royale. the other three went right in. do i have to take off the whole front to gain easy access to that spark plug. Pl;ease help, I'm at my wits end. thanx Lazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted June 29, 2012 Share #2 Posted June 29, 2012 First, Get a mirror and look down the hole to be sure there is not something there trying to fall into the cylinder and blocking the plug. Use a short length of gas line on the end of the plug to act as a handle to get it started. Look at the front on the other side to get an idea of the correct angle for the plug. And patience. and your new vocabulary........ If you didn't already, having the lower fairing off helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy biker Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share #3 Posted June 29, 2012 I Tried surgical tubing that didn't work, lower faring is off. I will hate to have to take of the rest of the faring just to get at that plug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted June 29, 2012 Share #4 Posted June 29, 2012 No need to remove the upper fairing. Surgical tubing might not be stiff enough. There is a plastic panel above the valve cover that can make it hard to get in there, The panel is not bolted in, it just snaps on top of the nuts that hold down the valve cover. It can be wiggled out and back in. Just look close and make sure you pay attention to how it fits and how it came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted June 29, 2012 Share #5 Posted June 29, 2012 I start them with my fingers. Just gotta play with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry.B Posted June 29, 2012 Share #6 Posted June 29, 2012 when I replace my plugs on the 85 it only takes a little bit of playing around to get them in . best to walk away and come bad after a break .or Beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dacheedah Posted June 29, 2012 Share #7 Posted June 29, 2012 I used the tubing to start, it should fit tight over the ceramic and be fairly stiff, I put a little anti seize on the threads, ease it down and finger start it, it should go easy most the way but as flyinfool said it's all about the proper angle and sockets bad for most of this process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy biker Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share #8 Posted June 29, 2012 thanx all, I still haven't got the plug in.tried the finger thing,can't get my fat fingers in there. i need to use needle nose pliers just to get the plug into the starting position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted June 29, 2012 Share #9 Posted June 29, 2012 Just a couple inch piece of gas line will do wonders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friesman Posted June 29, 2012 Share #10 Posted June 29, 2012 Alright i know spark plug replacement should be straight forward. But I've used every swear word i know, and I've even made up a few. I'm trying to get the new plug into the front cylinder on mt 85 venture royale. the other three went right in. do i have to take off the whole front to gain easy access to that spark plug. Pl;ease help, I'm at my wits end. thanx Lazy If you head down to Nelson for the Kruisn the Kootenays rally at the New Grand hotel this July 1sr weekend youll have all the help you can handle. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rstacy Posted June 29, 2012 Share #11 Posted June 29, 2012 Just a couple inch piece of gas line will do wonders. I agree with Jeff. Just a few inches of tygon (weed eater gas line) will do the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard765 Posted June 29, 2012 Share #12 Posted June 29, 2012 or find a neighborhood kid with smaller fingers to "help you fix your bike" You will be a hero and he'll get it started for you.. Maybe offer to take him for a ride later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy biker Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share #13 Posted June 29, 2012 Thanx all, still trying to get that darn plug in tried the gas line bit, but there is just not enough room for my fat fingers to fit. But I'll keep trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted June 29, 2012 Share #14 Posted June 29, 2012 Wait til you lean the tricks and you will wonder how you ever had trouble with that. Takes about 20 seconds once you get to it. Lot of things to learn on these old things but they are worth it. Hang in there. Neighbor kid not a bad idea... Got a wife?? I ask the Warden for those little fingers often. GOOD LUCK!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus1300 Posted June 29, 2012 Share #15 Posted June 29, 2012 Kool I like the little kid idea. I never thought of that:lightbulb: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy biker Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share #16 Posted June 29, 2012 Hi Guys The wife tried no luck, looks like i might have to load it up and take it to the bike shop. Thanx for all your advise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonRider Posted June 29, 2012 Share #17 Posted June 29, 2012 But my motor was sitting up on the work bench when I changed my plugs..................:dancefool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterGuns Posted June 29, 2012 Share #18 Posted June 29, 2012 Hi Guys The wife tried no luck, looks like i might have to load it up and take it to the bike shop. Thanx for all your advise. Are you sure you are tryin to install the right sized plug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy biker Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share #19 Posted June 29, 2012 you bet. i put in the other three no problem. but the left front one refuses to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankd Posted June 29, 2012 Share #20 Posted June 29, 2012 DO you have the original tool kit? I use the spark plug socket that comes in the original tool kit.....one end has a rubber piece that grips the plug. That's the end I use to start the plug. BTW, you do have the plastic piece that sits on top of the motor (heat shield) raised up don't you? If you don't have the factory tool kit, I suppose you could use an 18mm deep well socket and then take a piece of paper or cardboard to wedge the plug in the socket. Then put an extension into the socket and use that to install the plug. Frank D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkuhr Posted June 29, 2012 Share #21 Posted June 29, 2012 It was suggested but maybe missed to INSPECT WITH A MIRROR to find the debris that fell down there and is blocking the hole. Depending on what is seen, it may be removed wth a 'hooked' piece of wire, may a stick with gum....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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