JohnMidnight Posted May 23, 2012 #1 Posted May 23, 2012 Wondering should I use the sidewall "maximum PSI" number for my Venom X tires? Or should I stick to the MTL (Manufacturer Tire Label) on the bike?
Snaggletooth Posted May 23, 2012 #2 Posted May 23, 2012 Always use the recommended sidewall pressure on the tire on the Avon Venoms for best performance and wear. Just short of 25,000 miles on my last set. Nuff said. Mike
JohnMidnight Posted May 23, 2012 Author #3 Posted May 23, 2012 Despite the cracking that is showing on the tires?
Snaggletooth Posted May 23, 2012 #4 Posted May 23, 2012 I'd say yes. Lower pressure will only add to the flexing of the tire. I've heard the war stories about the cracks found by some riders but never had any problems with that on the last set or the new ones I just mounted up about 3,000 mile ago. I did find some minor cracks in the very bottoms of the grooves on the old front tire only at the end of its useful life. But with that tire being an '05 birthdate and almost the 25k miles I would expect some issues. BUT----- If you're seeing major cracks or flaws that tire needs to be evaluated for your own safety. If your uncomfortable with it, do what you need to. But again, I've never seen lower tire pressures help any tire condtion improve. With the Venoms low pressure will start the cupping effect very quickly with the softer compound. Mike
JohnMidnight Posted May 24, 2012 Author #5 Posted May 24, 2012 Yea, both Venom X tires show significant splitting. But their all shallow, so I'm assuming its simply the softer compound itself.
Guest scarylarry Posted May 24, 2012 #8 Posted May 24, 2012 42F/48R....No cracking issues at all and on my 3rd set
Primebeef Posted May 24, 2012 #9 Posted May 24, 2012 Check this web site out......it's the recommendations from the manufacture. http://www.avonmoto.com/tech/tire-pressure-guidelines
Yammer Dan Posted May 24, 2012 #10 Posted May 24, 2012 Wore a rear Avon out (threads hanging out) at less than 3500 miles. Avon said tough luck tire pressure too low.
Condor Posted May 24, 2012 #11 Posted May 24, 2012 Unlike the 2ndGen pressure, 1stGen fronts are 50psi. Rears are around 42psi. Don't try adjusting the ride by messing around with the tire presure. Keep 'm at MAX.....
JohnMidnight Posted May 24, 2012 Author #12 Posted May 24, 2012 Odd, the Venom X in the rear said 50. Filled both tires to 50 at the shop yesterday. It did make a difference. Now all I need is the forks redone and a fork brace, and maybe R1 Calipers, almost--not quite--ran out of room in my high speed turn. Little bit of crazy though kinda cleaned me and the bike up though.
etcswjoe Posted May 24, 2012 #13 Posted May 24, 2012 One odd thing about Avon tires is they only put the pressure for max loads on their tires, I called Avon and went by this group so I run 42/48 myself and I get around 25K out of a Venom.
Condor Posted May 24, 2012 #14 Posted May 24, 2012 Odd, the Venom X in the rear said 50. Filled both tires to 50 at the shop yesterday. It did make a difference. Now all I need is the forks redone and a fork brace, and maybe R1 Calipers, almost--not quite--ran out of room in my high speed turn. Little bit of crazy though kinda cleaned me and the bike up though. If it says 50 then run 50. It's been a while since I filled a 1stGen tire.
JohnMidnight Posted May 24, 2012 Author #15 Posted May 24, 2012 And thats 48 front, 42 rear right? I'll try that. I like the Avons they give very nice traction, and ease of movement. Though, with the insane wind we be getting lately--much so I thought the poor arse behind me was gonna find himself with a flag mounted to his windshield!--Its proving to be a beautiful experience, though... BEFORE at 32/32, I could not exceed 75, bike would just wobble, at 50/50 its pretty darn good. I'll lower the pressures tonight when I get home though, I can't find my pressure gauges anywhere on the Venture >:|
RSTDdog Posted May 24, 2012 #16 Posted May 24, 2012 One odd thing about Avon tires is they only put the pressure for max loads on their tires, I called Avon and went by this group so I run 42/48 myself and I get around 25K out of a Venom. What manufacturer provides anything but the max pressure on the side wall? I can't think of any. All tires I have seen say Max load of X at X psi Cold. That is the psi required to acheive the rated load of the tire. RSTDdog
RSTDdog Posted May 24, 2012 #17 Posted May 24, 2012 Where's that located? That information and more is located here. Lots of good info in that link. http://www.avonmoto.com/download/Tires101.pdf If your tires are cracked deep and less than five years old Avon may help you out with another set. RSTDdog
JohnMidnight Posted May 24, 2012 Author #18 Posted May 24, 2012 Seems I have "dry rot" but there's nothing I can do. Don't have a enclosed garage, just a open air sheltered garage. I will see about calling them up... but it's not covered as far as I know, its not premature cracking, the tires WERE left in the cold. >.>
FuzzyRSTD Posted May 24, 2012 #19 Posted May 24, 2012 (edited) And thats 48 front, 42 rear right? I'll try that. I like the Avons they give very nice traction, and ease of movement. Though, with the insane wind we be getting lately--much so I thought the poor arse behind me was gonna find himself with a flag mounted to his windshield!--Its proving to be a beautiful experience, though... BEFORE at 32/32, I could not exceed 75, bike would just wobble, at 50/50 its pretty darn good. I'll lower the pressures tonight when I get home though, I can't find my pressure gauges anywhere on the Venture >:| The very best tires on the market for me and my bike. Hands down the best....... FRONT = Solo Light - 38-40 PSI..... Two up - 40-41 PSI...... Heavy - 42-43 PSI.... REAR = Solo Light -44 PSI....... Two up - 46 PSI...... Heavy - 48-50 PSI..... Touring Venom Tires with reinforced construction* *Front MT90HB16, 130/70HB18, 120/90H18 *Rear 140/90H15, 150/90HB15, 150/90VB15, 170/80H15MT90HB16, 140/90HB16, 150/80HB16, 160/80HB16 Edited May 24, 2012 by FuzzyRSTD
frankd Posted May 28, 2012 #21 Posted May 28, 2012 Here's what Avon says about Venture tire pressure. I usually add 1 or 2# for the front and about 3-4# for the rear when taking long trips with a passenger and full bags. I get about 22-24Kmiles on a set. BTW, the other link to Avon about motorcycle tires is good also. http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/motorbike/xvz-1300-t-d-venture-royal Frank D.
naturbar Posted May 28, 2012 #22 Posted May 28, 2012 One odd thing about Avon tires is they only put the pressure for max loads on their tires, I called Avon and went by this group so I run 42/48 myself and I get around 25K out of a Venom. I run 42F/46R and ride two up 95% of time. 3rd set of venoms and typically get 18k fronts 11-12k rears. I'm a happy Avon customer........good luck with yours.
dalv Posted June 10, 2012 #23 Posted June 10, 2012 Took advice from other members and went with the Venoms on my '08. Replaced the stock 404's even though they still had tread and were legal. I thought with them being 5+ yrs old and squirrelly in the turns and riding the road snakes, it was time to upgrade. Just back from Americade where I had them mounted by the Avon technicians at the Forum - (thought they would be best installer in case of any trouble later on). Purchased from Motorcycle Superstore - delivered in 5 days at an excellent price. So... as I was getting on the bike after they were mounted - a fellow RSV rider ('02) commented as he walked past "it's gonna be like a new bike". Well, he was right! I can't believe the difference in the ride, handling the turns and slow speed maneuverability. Really brought enjoyment on the 3 hr ride home (took the long route through Vt). Now if I can put up with the darn "whine" (ear plugs and loud music ) Thanks everyone that lead me to the Avons - really pleased. Ride safe
AKRefugee Posted June 11, 2012 #24 Posted June 11, 2012 This thread is what I got from Avon when trying to figure out what tire pressure to run http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=44385
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