jimmyenglish Posted May 2, 2012 #1 Posted May 2, 2012 Hi all, great forum as always. I'm in the process of changing tires again. I have an 86' that my wife and I ride heavy and hard pulling a trailer. We'll do 6-10k/year. I've been through most brands of tires and would like to find a rear that would last more than 6-7k. Is there any car tire that will fit? What's the longest lasting non-car tire I can put on? Seems I've spent a fortune in tires in the 50k or so we've put on riding this bike. Too back breaking to be changing so often. Thanks! J
Snaggletooth Posted May 3, 2012 #3 Posted May 3, 2012 I just replaced the Avon Venoms on my '84 this summer. The rear was at the end. When it hit the wear bars it was done within a week. But.......It had 24,500 miles on it when I came off. I ride solo most the time and not a lot of slab trips so it wore side to side pretty even. Kept the pressure at 48 lbs all the time. I never expected that kind of miles out of a soft compound like the Venoms but it did me well. I bought them for the load rating on them so that will be a point if you're pulling a trailer. Just my experience..... Hard and heavy with a trailer..... probably won't get the same results, but it's a heck of a tire by my vote. Mike
jimmyenglish Posted May 3, 2012 Author #5 Posted May 3, 2012 Thanks! Good to know. I had a Kenda K673F which went about 16k before it started cupping all to hell. I will check out the Kruz. What about a car tire?
Evan Posted May 3, 2012 #6 Posted May 3, 2012 Dunlop E-3. I've gotten over 12K out of one... I'm with Bob. Really like the performance of my E3's on my 88VR. So far, almost 30k miles on the front and 25k miles on the back, including 8k last summer with two up hauling our trailer. Will replace the front soon due to some cupping.
tomephil Posted May 3, 2012 #7 Posted May 3, 2012 E3's on my 84 were great. I have E3's on my second gen , will see how long they last.
Wanderer Posted May 3, 2012 #8 Posted May 3, 2012 Thanks! Good to know. I had a Kenda K673F which went about 16k before it started cupping all to hell. I will check out the Kruz. What about a car tire? Don't think you'll find a car tire narrow enough for the 1st Gen.
Shorty Posted May 3, 2012 #9 Posted May 3, 2012 I get around 24,000 miles on my rear tire Dunlop 491 Elete II, but I don't pull a trailer. Keep the air pressure at 48 psi.
Yamamike Posted June 21, 2012 #10 Posted June 21, 2012 I put Kenda Kruz's on front and rear of my steed cuz I loved them so much on the Virago. Any suggestions on tire pressures??
Sylvester Posted June 21, 2012 #11 Posted June 21, 2012 Get a Bridgestone. They are so hard they will last forever. :whistling: Just don't try to stop on wet pavement.
KIC Posted June 21, 2012 #12 Posted June 21, 2012 Get a Bridgestone. They are so hard they will last forever. :whistling: Just don't try to stop on wet pavement. So Bridgestone is the Viagra of tire makers ? Just how long can they last ? Is it true that if they stay hard after 4,000 miles you have to see a mechanic ?
SilvrT Posted June 21, 2012 #13 Posted June 21, 2012 So Bridgestone is the Viagra of tire makers ? Just how long can they last ? Is it true that if they stay hard after 4,000 miles you have to see a mechanic ?
morganfrmn Posted June 21, 2012 #14 Posted June 21, 2012 all tires last the same amount on the rear no matter what. I have went through a bunch of brands, and all i get out of a rear tire is 7k miles... right now i have a metzler 880 on... it replaced a cheng or one of those asian named tires. the asian tire lasted 7000 miles it had replaced a dunlop, that lasted 7000 miles. The asian tire was half the price of the others... I noticed the cheap asian tire, made me feel as if my butt was stuck to the road... the mechanic said that was because it was made of cheap soft sticky rubber and that was why it was no good.... it actually had another 1000 miles left on it but it had gotten a nail... where the dunlop was slick at 7000 miles...Now the sidewalls were soft on the asian tire. The metzler i have on now, has such hard sidewalls that i think if i had a flat i would not know it.... So I believe your choice is not based on miles per tire... but on three things.... cost... stuck to the road.... or hard sidewalls for flat safety... those are your real choices... and honestly your probably better off with a cheap tire that is stuck to the road....
Yammer Dan Posted June 22, 2012 #15 Posted June 22, 2012 24,000 on a rear tire?? You know time on the trailer don't count?? I once got almost 5,000 on a rear tire. Almost.....24,000?? I just don't understand it. 24,000??I've had a few that lasted around 3,000. 24,000???
morganfrmn Posted June 22, 2012 #16 Posted June 22, 2012 24000 miles is a lot of miles on a motorcycle... thats a year and a half of riding for me and I ride all the time... most people cant put 24000 miles on a bike in a lifetime... it is very hard to believe...I have heard people say they got 10k out of a 300 dollar tire... But i have never heard 24k.... I have a 2008 rstd, and I weight 310 lbs... I have a constant average of 7k miles.... no matter which tire i use... I go through 2 rear tires and 1 front tire per year.... In fact I will go as far to say the rstd is very hard on tires.... especially the rear... I go through so many rear tires I actually have bought a spare rear wheel, to make changing rear tires easier... In fact I just changed a rear tire 2 weeks ago... and I have already put 2100 miles on the new one... ( I went to florida and back) I check my air preasure every other day... I put in 41 lbs... Someone said 48, but I have never heard anyone say that... I think that is over the recomended way over.
painterman67 Posted June 22, 2012 #17 Posted June 22, 2012 I got 6000 on a shinko tourmaster, put 9000 on a metzler that was already on it when I bought the bike and have no idea to previous miles, and now have 3000 on an E3. Buy far I liked the shinko as for price and ride. It stuck like glue but didnt get very much in the mileage side of it. Im prone to think the E3 will do better as at 3000 miles the rear tire still looks bran new. David
FuzzyRSTD Posted June 22, 2012 #18 Posted June 22, 2012 all tires last the same amount on the rear no matter what. I have went through a bunch of brands, and all i get out of a rear tire is 7k miles... right now i have a metzler 880 on... it replaced a cheng or one of those asian named tires. the asian tire lasted 7000 miles it had replaced a dunlop, that lasted 7000 miles. The asian tire was half the price of the others... I noticed the cheap asian tire, made me feel as if my butt was stuck to the road... the mechanic said that was because it was made of cheap soft sticky rubber and that was why it was no good.... it actually had another 1000 miles left on it but it had gotten a nail... where the dunlop was slick at 7000 miles...Now the sidewalls were soft on the asian tire. The metzler i have on now, has such hard sidewalls that i think if i had a flat i would not know it.... So I believe your choice is not based on miles per tire... but on three things.... cost... stuck to the road.... or hard sidewalls for flat safety... those are your real choices... and honestly your probably better off with a cheap tire that is stuck to the road.... I disagree, no disrespect, but riding style has a lot to do with tire life, especially the rear. Try a set of Avon Venoms and get back to me in about 12,500 - 14,000 miles. Some are getting as much as 18,000 - 25,000 per set of Avons. They do all the above things mentioned here and I love the ride and mileage. However if you like to really get on it every time you take off, you are actually leaving rubber on the road that you do not even see. Run the Avons at 50 lb rear and around 42 lb front. Just my 2 cents and lesson learned over the past 30 yrs riding. A lot of other information on the site here about this also. These bikes are heavy beasts and when you take the small patch on the black top, versus the heavy weight Yamaha and hard throttle, well your tire will not last over 4,000 - 7,000 miles. And 7,000 miles is not to bad for the other brands. Again, just my thoughts and experience for me and my riding style. Fuzzy
Yammer Dan Posted June 22, 2012 #19 Posted June 22, 2012 i didn't mean to disrespect anybody I was just laughing at myself. If I get 4,000 miles out of a rear tire I'm doing great and I've tried them all.
MikeWa Posted June 22, 2012 #20 Posted June 22, 2012 Take a look at the new Bridgestone Exedra MAX tires. You can get the rear in a bias belted and it has a very deep tread depth. They are dual compound tires. I recently put a set on my Venture and so far I am extremely happy with them. So far they stick like glue and are very quiet. Mike
justfun1 Posted June 22, 2012 #21 Posted June 22, 2012 Hi, I had real good luck with the Dunlop E3's. I got 22K and 21K on the last 2 rear tires and the front is. I did try a venom front once but did not like the ride. . . it could be because I had an E3 in the back. I'm sold on the E3's so far using 40 psi in the back and 35 psi in the front. Just my 2 cents, Mike
KIC Posted June 22, 2012 #22 Posted June 22, 2012 i didn't mean to disrespect anybody I was just laughing at myself. If I get 4,000 miles out of a rear tire I'm doing great and I've tried them all. It's all that 1st Gen power, the wheelies, and the consistent fast braking you do when a DQ :fnd_(16):comes into sight.
Brake Pad Posted June 23, 2012 #23 Posted June 23, 2012 Get a Bridgestone. They are so hard they will last forever. :whistling: Just don't try to stop on wet pavement. Or ride fast on wet roads... they are some slick tires, in the rain. But the back went @ 12,000 and the front lasted almost 19,000.
etcswjoe Posted June 23, 2012 #24 Posted June 23, 2012 I just replaced the Avon Venoms on my '84 this summer. The rear was at the end. When it hit the wear bars it was done within a week. But.......It had 24,500 miles on it when I came off. I ride solo most the time and not a lot of slab trips so it wore side to side pretty even. Kept the pressure at 48 lbs all the time. I never expected that kind of miles out of a soft compound like the Venoms but it did me well. I bought them for the load rating on them so that will be a point if you're pulling a trailer. Just my experience..... Hard and heavy with a trailer..... probably won't get the same results, but it's a heck of a tire by my vote. Mike About the same here 25K out of the Avons 2 up 50% of the time.
MikeWa Posted June 23, 2012 #25 Posted June 23, 2012 Get a Bridgestone. They are so hard they will last forever. :whistling: Just don't try to stop on wet pavement. Or ride fast on wet roads... they are some slick tires, in the rain. But the back went @ 12,000 and the front lasted almost 19,000. Are you refering to the original Exedra or the new Max? Mike
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