etcswjoe Posted March 15, 2012 #1 Posted March 15, 2012 Need some advice I have an opportunity to buy a ’70 BSA Rocket 3 750 triple for $5K. Been in dry storage covered for 30+ years. One owner. Has racing wheels and tires w/ original tires and wheels in boxes that go w/ it. Copper color, looking at it today to determine condition and will post pics. If it is in good condition would it be worth 5K? I know nothing about BSA.
KarlS Posted March 15, 2012 #2 Posted March 15, 2012 NADA says: 1970 BSA A75 Rocket 3 Fair- $2270 Good- $3160 Very Good- $4940 Excellent- $8075 Kelly Blue Book say: $8500 in Excellent condition.
darthandy Posted March 15, 2012 #3 Posted March 15, 2012 Well, not too sure how US prices compare to ours, but at my vintage bike club's rally last June, there was a guy with a 1970 Triumph Trident (Same bike, different name) for sale and asking $6,500. It was in very nice shape and running quite well. The last one I saw for sale in similar condition had the same asking price. $5,000 for a bike that has been stored for 30 years, even indoors and covered, seems a bit pricey. Going by the prices Karl found, I would say that you shouldn't pay more than about $3,000. And at that price, I'd want good paint and no missing parts. If you decide to buy it there are a number of publications and clubs in the U.S. and Canada along with a number of suppliers who can get you just about any parts you might need. Keep in mind though, that although it is a fairly rare bike, you shouldn't look at it as a financial investment. I know a young guy near here who spent $10,000 + restoring a 650 BSA Lightning (The BSA equivalent to the Triumph Bonneville) which at this point, in near perfect condition, would still only bring about $7,000 to $8,000 at auction. This is a bike to buy only if it really interests you. Andy
Cougar Posted March 15, 2012 #4 Posted March 15, 2012 Way Kewl... Nice Find. Need pics soon please Darth make some really good points tho.
Yammer Dan Posted March 15, 2012 #5 Posted March 15, 2012 It would have to be nice. What all would have to be replaced because of age??? I would have to think on it but I know you will. Could be a chance to make a few bucks or have a nice collectors item.Any rust??
etcswjoe Posted March 15, 2012 Author #6 Posted March 15, 2012 Turns out it is a 71 not a 70, paint on tank a little faded all the rubber looks brand new 6,000 miles one owner belongs to a coworker of my brothers it is in his moms house. Will post pics soon. I need to go back and see if it is a 4 or 5 speed. I am thinking about offering 3,000.
djh3 Posted March 15, 2012 #7 Posted March 15, 2012 Kind of cool when folks run across these things. Unfortunatly all I remember about that vintage of bike when I was in high school was A: it was British, B: the dang shifter was on the wrong side C: Lucas electrics D: if it wasnt leaking oil, it probably didnt have any in it. I'm not cutting on you. If your up for the restoration heck go for it.
darthandy Posted March 15, 2012 #8 Posted March 15, 2012 Turns out it is a 71 not a 70, paint on tank a little faded all the rubber looks brand new 6,000 miles one owner belongs to a coworker of my brothers it is in his moms house. Will post pics soon. I need to go back and see if it is a 4 or 5 speed. I am thinking about offering 3,000. If it is a '71, it should have a 5 speed. That transmission was introduced for the BSA Rocket 3 and Triumph Trident for 1971. According to what I've read, there were only 205 BSA Rockets produced for the 1971 model year. From then until 1975, only Triumph 3 cylinder bikes were produced. It seems the BSA sales were too low to make continued production worthwhile. The official BSA model number was A75RV. The '71 models were the last with drum brakes front and rear. Be very wary of that rubber. It may look new, but if it's original it will have hardened by now. Tire and all rubber hoses, etc. should be replaced. Andy
RandyR Posted March 15, 2012 #9 Posted March 15, 2012 If you want a bike to restore and ride short distances or trailer to Brit bike vintage rallies, its just the thing. However, its not a reliable, long haul, comfortable riding machine. air cooled 3 cylinder. basically the last breath for 1930's technology. I love them, but they are what they are.
Sylvester Posted March 15, 2012 #10 Posted March 15, 2012 If this machine has sat for thirty years without being turned over, you have a complete rebuild ahead of you. I learned this with a 67 Bonneville that looked great. Many dollars later it was worth more than retail value.
Guest Posted March 17, 2012 #12 Posted March 17, 2012 Will it fire up or at least spin when you kick it? 5K seems like a lot of money to me for a non-running bike. (if thats the case) Emotions sometimes run high with purchases like this. Keep your cool about it. It may cost you dearly in the long run.
darthandy Posted March 17, 2012 #13 Posted March 17, 2012 Just found one sold here in Canada this week. Although the sale price wasn't mentioned, the description stated that the bike had been given a "museum quality" restoration from the "crankshaft" up. Total parts bill was near $8,000 several years ago plus labour. He was asking $12,000 CDN or $10,000 USD (Must have been advertised a couple of years ago when the rates were different!). This should give you an idea as to what it could cost to restore, if not what it would ten sell for. As Sylvester and RandyR said....if you want a really interesting project and a fairly rare machine when you're done, go for it. But your unlikely to ever get your investment back. Not trying to discourage you but I've seen too many guys get into this situation without realizing what it could cost. Knew one guy who bought a bike that looked to be in pretty good shape but had sat unused for over 20 years. The motor and transmission had basically rusted themselves into a giant sized paper weight! Restoring the motor alone brought the toal cost up to what the resale value was for that bike. Andy
Freebird Posted March 17, 2012 #14 Posted March 17, 2012 I don't know what I would pay for it but I SURE DO want it.
tz89 Posted March 17, 2012 #15 Posted March 17, 2012 My 2011 vintage price guide says Perfect $10000 Excellent 8000 Very good 6000 Good 4000 Fair 2000 Poor 1100 Your description sounds fair to good. Does it have compression?
etcswjoe Posted March 17, 2012 Author #16 Posted March 17, 2012 The guy is going to let us service it change the oil, plugs, gas and see if it will fire. Has good compression and turns over. Got him down to 4K if it runs less if it does not.
darthandy Posted March 18, 2012 #17 Posted March 18, 2012 I don't know what I would pay for it but I SURE DO want it. Come on up our way...or more precisely, to Paris, Ontario ... on Father's Day weekend in June. That's when my Canadian Vintage Motorcycle Group has its national rally. There is usually at least one restored Triumph Trident or BSA Rocket 3 for sale. There was a nicely restored '71 Trident there last year with an asking price of $6,500 CDN. Plus, you get to see dozens and dozens of vintage bikes going back to the very early 1900's. Personally, I would have loved to pick up the yellow 1975 Honda CB400 (with that gorgeous 4 into one pipe they put on them back then) that was for sale last year as well ($4,500 - in pristine condition!). Oh well, I have more bikes than I can afford now, so I have to sell some rather than buy more. Damn!!! Andy
Pegasus1300 Posted September 27, 2012 #18 Posted September 27, 2012 Just looking thru some old threads and found this.Joe did you ever get that Rocket 3? What happened to it?
etcswjoe Posted September 27, 2012 Author #19 Posted September 27, 2012 It would not start, seems the electrical was shot so did not want to fool with it. I think the guys still has it.
RandyR Posted September 27, 2012 #20 Posted September 27, 2012 points would likely be corroded after 30 years.
Sylvester Posted September 28, 2012 #21 Posted September 28, 2012 It is all because of Lucas electrical equipment. They were the worst for the British bikes.
RedRider Posted September 28, 2012 #22 Posted September 28, 2012 If it is still for sale - I know a guy that rebuilds/restores these. I expect he would be very interested. Based in Eastern Tennessee. Let me know and I will pass the word to him. RR
etcswjoe Posted September 28, 2012 Author #23 Posted September 28, 2012 THe bike was in Southwest Virgina, I sent my brother an e-mail asking him to see if the guy still had it for sure and what his contact info is.
RedRider Posted September 28, 2012 #24 Posted September 28, 2012 THe bike was in Southwest Virgina, I sent my brother an e-mail asking him to see if the guy still had it for sure and what his contact info is. Sounds good. Let me know. RR
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