KDFranzen Posted March 10, 2012 #1 Posted March 10, 2012 Here we go....... Looking at tires for my 07 Venture. Currently have the original tires with 14,255 miles on them. Rear is ready to be replaced. Going to replace the front only because it's 5 years old. Here's my questions..... I have read about someone with a Michelin Commander || on the rear. What would be suggestions for the front? Michelin does not make a front tire for the Venture. I haven't had any problems with the Dunlop 404's which are what's on the bike now. Also, the member that has the Michelin Commander ||, has it on a first gen. As far as the riding I do? Mostly highway and around town. Don't have many twisties around Joliet but would like a set of tires that would be good for that when I get the opportunity. The Venoms were discontinued and I know I have read a lot about people using those. Just not sure if I should stick with what I have, or go to something different. I'm kind of one of those that figures if it's not broke, don't fix it. Anybody's thought or suggestions are welcome and appreciated. Thanks for putting up with me babbling. Kevin
Guest Posted March 10, 2012 #3 Posted March 10, 2012 My personal choice has been the Avon Venoms. Im on my 3rd set. Not happy with Metzelers because they tend to throw rubber. Those Michelin Commander2's are relatively new. Maybe next year they will come out with a matching front tire. I know those who ran the original Commanders were happy with them. But, overall the Avons are the best bet in my opinion.....
XV1100SE Posted March 10, 2012 #4 Posted March 10, 2012 General concensus is Avon or Dunlop E3's. The 404's aren't for a bike as heavy as the RSV.
djh3 Posted March 10, 2012 #5 Posted March 10, 2012 My 09 has the E 3's on it. They were on it wehn I got it. Big difference from the way I remeber my 900 being on the Dunlap 404's on it. I like the sure footedness of the E 3's. I just keep reading up on tires. I'm not sure what I'm going to buy for replacements.
spyderhead Posted March 10, 2012 #6 Posted March 10, 2012 New Dunlop E3s here. Had Michelin Commanders before (got over 18000 miles and six years from them), but - like you said - no Commander II for the front yet.
darthandy Posted March 10, 2012 #7 Posted March 10, 2012 For what it's worth, everything I've ever read on the subject says that it is risky mixing tire brands. The tread patterns and compounds were designed to work together for specific models of tire and there's no way to be sure two different brands will work well together. We're not necessarily talking major handling problems (Though I've heard of it happening) but it could make your riding less pleasant. Having said that, I know people who have mixed brands or models within a brand (I replaced the front with an E3 when I got my RSV last year and left the nearly new 404 on the rear - no problem so far!) and everything has been fine. Just know though that there is a risk to mixing those brands. Andy
Sylvester Posted March 10, 2012 #8 Posted March 10, 2012 I have used Dunlop 404 for eleven years, I get +10,000 miles from them always. They have served me well and I have 150K miles on my 02 RSMV. I will always run these. And I run the mountains of Nc all the time.
KDFranzen Posted March 11, 2012 Author #9 Posted March 11, 2012 Thanks guys for the input. I too have heard about mixing tires. I'm not wanting to do that. The Venoms have been discontinued according to my local shop. Think I'll probably stick with what has worked so far. Thanks again for your help.
lshafer Posted March 11, 2012 #11 Posted March 11, 2012 Love my E3's too. Great tires and a BIG improvement over what I had - Brickstones.
colmike Posted March 11, 2012 #12 Posted March 11, 2012 The Michelin Commander II is available in a 130/90 B16 73H Reinforced front. That size tire should work as well as the Avon Venom AM41 MT90HB-16 or the Dunlop Elite 3 Bias Touring Front Tire - Size MT90B-16 which several on this site have tried and liked. I've wanted to give the narrower front tire a try myself, so will be installing this Michelin Commander II tire combination on my RSV probably next week (as soon as it stops raining!). Just a thought, and a little something to keep the thread going.
RandyR Posted March 11, 2012 #13 Posted March 11, 2012 Avon venom's discontinued?? did I read this right?
KDFranzen Posted March 11, 2012 Author #14 Posted March 11, 2012 That's what my local dealer told me today.
flb_78 Posted March 11, 2012 #15 Posted March 11, 2012 That's because your dealer doesn't stock those and is trying to clear out some inventory that he has in stock. Most likely.
allwx Posted March 11, 2012 #16 Posted March 11, 2012 I like the D404 also. That's what my 07 came with. I got a nail in the rear at about 9k, so I put on a set of E3. I like the handling and stability of the E3 but I thought they were too noisy. The set I got really howled, from day one. Then I put on another set of D404, and this dadgum set of tires is almost gone at 5k miles. Unbelievable! But I've seen this before. There are more than one formulation of rubber on these D404s. That's the only thing I can think of to explain why I get 10k on one set and 5k on another. Anyway, I've already got my next set of D404 ready to go on. Even if they don't last long, they're nice and quiet, and handle reasonably well.
Rick Butler Posted March 11, 2012 #17 Posted March 11, 2012 SW Moto still has them and they are on sale for $150, which is $80 under retail which is over 30% http://www.swmototires.com/Avon-AM41AM42-VENOM-CRUISERCUSTOM-REPLACEMENT-TIRES-detail.htm?productId=7851553&ez=Avon&pos=5 Rick FYI, I have been running Metzler ME 880s for over 180,000 miles since 2000 and I've never had an issue with any of them. Just have to run 46 lbs in the rear.
Phoneman1981 Posted March 11, 2012 #18 Posted March 11, 2012 Hello: Just replaced my first set of 404's. (The rear was worn thin at 8,000 miles) I wanted to go with the Micheln Commander, but discovered no matching front tire. So I opted for a new set of Dunlop Elite 3's. The 2012 riding season has begun!!!!!
OB-1 Posted March 11, 2012 #19 Posted March 11, 2012 Hello: Just replaced my first set of 404's. (The rear was worn thin at 8,000 miles) I wanted to go with the Micheln Commander, but discovered no matching front tire. So I opted for a new set of Dunlop Elite 3's. The 2012 riding season has begun!!!!! You'll enjoy the E-3's after running 404's. I typically get 12k or so out of the rear and around 15k out of the front.
Red Rider Posted March 11, 2012 #20 Posted March 11, 2012 When did they stop making a macthing front tire for the Michelin Commanders? I put those one my 00 venture last summer. So far I love them. Great in a heavy down pour they really grip road nice.
Freebird Posted March 11, 2012 #21 Posted March 11, 2012 When they stopped making the Commander and came out with the Commander II.
Guest Slab_Ryder Posted March 11, 2012 #22 Posted March 11, 2012 I get around 18k - 22k Miles on my E3's
djh3 Posted March 15, 2012 #23 Posted March 15, 2012 Slab what kind of pressures you running. I sure would like to get as good of milage as you. I currently am running 40 front 41 rear.
Guest Slab_Ryder Posted March 15, 2012 #24 Posted March 15, 2012 That is exactly what I run my pressures at. I check my pressures every day. Shocks set rear 47PSI, Front 6PSI.
Guest Slab_Ryder Posted April 23, 2012 #25 Posted April 23, 2012 Ok, so I understand my high tire life and ppl in the South with low mileage. With the 111 deg F temperatures I have endured in Az for the last 10 days, you can almost feel the rubber peeling off!
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