pick Posted February 19, 2012 #1 Posted February 19, 2012 Just put on a new Avon, got about 3k on it. Bikes been parked for a few due to weather and it's totally flat! Filled it back up, lost pressure fast!!!!!! Put some soapy water around rim and sure enough, it is leaking around almost the entire rim. This happened once before, dealer had to r and r the tire, but it never completely stopped. This time the dealer put a tube in it to stop the leak. Any issue with running a tube on the rear tire?
Kregerdoodle Posted February 19, 2012 #2 Posted February 19, 2012 I don`t have the answer for you about the Tube, but sounds like your rim is all jacked up, any visable issues with it?? Just put on a new Avon, got about 3k on it. Bikes been parked for a few due to weather and it's totally flat! Filled it back up, lost pressure fast!!!!!! Put some soapy water around rim and sure enough, it is leaking around almost the entire rim. This happened once before, dealer had to r and r the tire, but it never completely stopped. This time the dealer put a tube in it to stop the leak. Any issue with running a tube on the rear tire?
flb_78 Posted February 19, 2012 #3 Posted February 19, 2012 Sounds like there's corrosion built up on the lip of the wheel. I personally would not run a tube inside of a tubeless tire and wheel.
midnightventure Posted February 20, 2012 #4 Posted February 20, 2012 They use tubes with tubeless tires on spoked wheels all the time.
flb_78 Posted February 20, 2012 #5 Posted February 20, 2012 but spoked wheels are designed to use a tube.
muaymendez1 Posted February 20, 2012 #6 Posted February 20, 2012 Ive had this issue with a goldwing.Tire guy was installing tires with soapy water.Dish soap has a high content of alkali.Cuts grease and removes impurities when rinsed off. Left on aluminum it with oxidize it causing a white powder /aluminum oxide.You have to removev tge tire and clean up the bead. You should use non petroleum lubricant to set the tire ontop the rim as petroleum deteriorates any rubber compound. KY will work in a pinch.
twigg Posted February 20, 2012 #7 Posted February 20, 2012 As far as I know there is no real issue with putting a tube in a tubeless tire, or on a tubeless rim .... But I can't see a good reason to do it. If the rim is shot, you need a new one. If the rim is good then all you have done is make it more difficult to fix a puncture rapidly and easily.
Rick Haywood Posted February 20, 2012 #8 Posted February 20, 2012 A tire with a tube in it will also blow out easier
Bones Posted February 21, 2012 #9 Posted February 21, 2012 I had to run a tube in a E3 on the rear of my 06 Royal. I picked up 3 nails in a tire with less than 1000 miles and the shop refused to patch. They installed the tube and I rode for 12k miles with no issues. Worked for me.
Guest Posted February 21, 2012 #10 Posted February 21, 2012 Just put on a new Avon, got about 3k on it. Bikes been parked for a few due to weather and it's totally flat! Filled it back up, lost pressure fast!!!!!! Put some soapy water around rim and sure enough, it is leaking around almost the entire rim. This happened once before, dealer had to r and r the tire, but it never completely stopped. This time the dealer put a tube in it to stop the leak. Any issue with running a tube on the rear tire? Since your rim is now 11 years old, chances are the bead area is corroded. You need to remove the tire and use a scotch brite pad to clean the bead area. When installing the tire use a bead sealer and you should be good. Same thing happened on my 99. Bead sealer did the trick.
twigg Posted February 21, 2012 #11 Posted February 21, 2012 I had to run a tube in a E3 on the rear of my 06 Royal. I picked up 3 nails in a tire with less than 1000 miles and the shop refused to patch. They installed the tube and I rode for 12k miles with no issues. Worked for me. Generally it will work just fine. Rarely do any of us stress the tires even close to their rated limits .... The "Z" rated tyres on my FJ1200A were rated for sustained speeds in excess of 150mph .... yeah! The principles are sound though ... a tube in a tubeless tyre isn't advised, can cause overheating due to the flexing between the tyre and the tube .... but back in the real world ...
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