Marcarl Posted February 13, 2012 #1 Posted February 13, 2012 I am putting together a group buy for stainless steel side covers for the 1st gen. So far I have almost everything together, but for a small hitch. I am not sure which of the two banjo bolts pictured are stock. This is on the rear master cylinder. As you might notice in picture #1 the bolt has a thicker head than in picture #2. The bolt in picture #1 sticks out too far to make a nice application of the cover, so if someone could tell me which is stock, it would help when I go to post the group buy.
KIC Posted February 13, 2012 #2 Posted February 13, 2012 If this is the bolt in question, this is on my 1989. Looks original.
bongobobny Posted February 13, 2012 #3 Posted February 13, 2012 Carl, I just checked both the '84 and the '85 and picture 1 is the stock application. I'm thinking that's why the Ventureline ones were extended out. BTW you do know that no one will be anywhere near the Hearth this Saturday...
dingy Posted February 13, 2012 #4 Posted February 13, 2012 Carl, From the brake parts I have acquired, which has helped the UPS drivers retirement BTW, the 2nd picture does not look at all stock. And the first one is sort of close, but I don't think it is stock either. The style of the clamped part of the hose does not look stock in the first one & banjo bolt looks different. Picture I posted is near worthless for your actual question, but on the left you can see the original hose and banjo bolt styles. This was from my 83 once upon a time. Gary
Marcarl Posted February 14, 2012 Author #5 Posted February 14, 2012 Thanks guys. So to sum it up, that banjo bolt needs to be changed as well in order to accommodate the SS side cover,,,,, another five bucks!
BradT Posted February 14, 2012 #6 Posted February 14, 2012 While making those fancy side covers to hide the dirt, don't forget to use the Plastex to fix the fairing, wouldn't want anything to fall off. Brad
Marcarl Posted February 14, 2012 Author #7 Posted February 14, 2012 While making those fancy side covers to hide the dirt, don't forget to use the Plastex to fix the fairing, wouldn't want anything to fall off. Brad Not my fairing,,, but I will bring it to his attention. It may be there on purpose to let the heat out.
BradT Posted February 15, 2012 #8 Posted February 15, 2012 ,,, but I will bring it to his attention. It may be there on purpose to let the heat out. Yah most First gen's have that same overheating problem. Brad
Marcarl Posted February 15, 2012 Author #9 Posted February 15, 2012 Have you been asleep lately?????? oh never mind, you would no longer understand the working of a 1st gen, the power, the heat, the speed, the exhilaration.
BradT Posted February 15, 2012 #10 Posted February 15, 2012 Have you been asleep lately. Nope woke up a few years back when I got the second gen. Still waitin for you guys Brad
dingy Posted February 15, 2012 #11 Posted February 15, 2012 Nope woke up a few years back when I got the second gen. Still waitin for you guys Brad Did you wake up and say, "I'll never drink that much again" Gary
bongobobny Posted February 15, 2012 #12 Posted February 15, 2012 Did you wake up and say, "I'll never drink that much again" GaryNah, he just got old and conservative in his old age...
Stache Posted February 15, 2012 #13 Posted February 15, 2012 Still far too many people slurping up all that 1st Gen cool-aid.
Yammer Dan Posted February 15, 2012 #14 Posted February 15, 2012 Yeah when you get old and start slowing down you usually start looking for a 2nd Gen.
99silver Posted February 15, 2012 #15 Posted February 15, 2012 Depends on if you want to ride or work on bike's........
Mike Mercury Posted February 16, 2012 #16 Posted February 16, 2012 Don't know if this could help, but this is original set-up, less proportionnal valve and direct rear brake line, note front line is removed, Mike
dingy Posted February 16, 2012 #17 Posted February 16, 2012 Carl, Could you put a spacer in behind the right side plate to offset it enough to clear brake line. Probably a 1/4" (6mm to you) should clear brake line. They aren't very much at hardware stores. Mcmastercarr has some nylon ones that would work. http://www.mcmaster.com/#unthreaded-spacers/=g9kx9o About $8 for 100 pieces. Gary
BradT Posted February 16, 2012 #18 Posted February 16, 2012 Did you wake up and say, "I'll never drink that much again" Gary Nope Nah, he just got old and conservative in his old age... Nope Yeah when you get old and start slowing down you usually start looking for a 2nd Gen. Nope Depends on if you want to ride or work on bike's........ Yup :sign **** happens: Riding is more fun than Wrenching guess you will never get it.
Marcarl Posted February 16, 2012 Author #19 Posted February 16, 2012 Carl, Could you put a spacer in behind the right side plate to offset it enough to clear brake line. Probably a 1/4" (6mm to you) should clear brake line. They aren't very much at hardware stores. Mcmastercarr has some nylon ones that would work. http://www.mcmaster.com/#unthreaded-spacers/=g9kx9o About $8 for 100 pieces. Gary Thanks Gary, we already have spacers in place, but too much spacer and the cover comes too far forward and looks out of place. On my scoot, I have a thinner headed banjo bolt that must have come with the package, the head is just over 4 mm thick. If we can find something similar, it would make my package sell-able and really work out nice. So what I am looking for is a: M10x1" banjo bolt 125 thread with a 4mm head thickness.
dingy Posted February 20, 2012 #20 Posted February 20, 2012 Thanks Gary, we already have spacers in place, but too much spacer and the cover comes too far forward and looks out of place. On my scoot, I have a thinner headed banjo bolt that must have come with the package, the head is just over 4 mm thick. If we can find something similar, it would make my package sell-able and really work out nice. So what I am looking for is a: M10x1" banjo bolt 125 thread with a 4mm head thickness. Carl, Something else to consider with replacing the banjo bolt is that it would then require the brakes to be bled. Not that this is a bad thing, but there may be one or two that are willing to swap out plates, but don't want the ordeal of bleeding that rear/front linked brake. Not trying to be a wet blanket here. Gary
Marcarl Posted February 21, 2012 Author #21 Posted February 21, 2012 Carl, Something else to consider with replacing the banjo bolt is that it would then require the brakes to be bled. Not that this is a bad thing, but there may be one or two that are willing to swap out plates, but don't want the ordeal of bleeding that rear/front linked brake. Not trying to be a wet blanket here. Gary Hey, we have to leave something for a surprise don't we??? Did consider that, but I thought not to put in negatives, but just to leave that to ones own imagination. Thanks for the cool shower, now I can go to bed happy!!
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