FuzzyRSTD Posted January 25, 2012 Share #1 Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) I have just took on the quest to get the crossbow recognized here in Kentucky. I feel as if we need to include the crossbow in our archery deer season. If anyone can help with this issue, I would be very grateful. Especially members from Kentucky. So far in Kentucky we can only use the crossbow for a very short period of the archery season, unless you are disabled. I think the crossbow should be considered for full inclusion of the archery season. The crossbow uses an arrow with fletching and a broadhead, just as the vertical bow. A bolt was the term used in history when there was a steel or wooden shaft used with out any vanes or fletching. The crossbow is so much fun to shoot and allows those that do not have the time to dedicate to verticle bow hunting the time to hunt. Yes the crossbow can be used with out so much of the dedicated time that it takes to shoot a deer with the verticle bow and still show respect for the animal. I did not say easier, for if anything a crossbow is harder to hunt with when compared to a vertical bow because I can usually get a second shot off with my vertical bow. I would have to be very lucky to get a second shot with the crossbow. It is slower to load and louder at the shot. I have bowhunted with vertical bows for the past 30 years. I own two Mathews MQ-1s. I have hunted with the a crossbow once or twice in in the last 10 years. I recently purchased a Horton Summit and then sold it and bought my self a Parker Cyclone Express crosbow. I have been bitten by the crossbow bug. I really love this new way of hunting with an arrow. It is so much fun. I have been doing some research and reading a lot. Seventeen states allow crossbows for all archery deer hunters; Kentucky only allows them for a short part of the archery deer season and for those with disabilities. Crossbow use has increasingly been allowed across the nation. In the last two years, eight states, including traditional whitetail hunting states of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Texas, have changed regulations to allow crossbows during the archery deer seasons. Crossbows not only help recruit young hunters but help retain older hunters, too. As our hunter population continues to age, the crossbow will continue to play a vital role in our deer program, both in our rural and urban areas. The state of Ohio has full inclusion of the crossbow during deer archery seasons since 1976. Now 45% to 50% of the state's archery hunters use crossbows. The state's deer population hasn't suffered and is at or near an all-time record. I would like to know what the Kentucky hunting members think of this proposal I am making. I have been invited to join in on a pro crossbow Kentucky Afield Radio talk show here in Kentucky. I will be promoting not only the crossbow, but all hunting methods here in our state. I respect those whom hunt with every available means, and would not want to give any anti hunting groups an opportunity to say we disagree or are separated in our goals to keep our rights to hunt. I would like to see the crossbow become full inclusive in our state of Kentucky. James Darrell Fultz Home > 606-286-2078 Cell > 606-356-7797 Edited January 25, 2012 by FuzzyRSTD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flb_78 Posted January 25, 2012 Share #2 Posted January 25, 2012 Im all for it. The deer population is too high in most parts of Kentucky. I know Texas just recently passed crossbow hunting. Crossbow would be an excellent way to get more folks into archery hunting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragtop69gs Posted January 25, 2012 Share #3 Posted January 25, 2012 Michigan also has crossbows in use for the full archery season. With my bad shoulder I could never bow hunt till they legalized crossbows. You still have to put in your time in the woods to succeed in taking a deer, it just give you one more tool to do it. Firearm hunting from a tree was also made legal, it makes me feel much safer in the woods. Accidental firearm injuries have gone down, but, there are now more people getting hurt or worse from falling from trees. You gotta wear that safety harness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
painterman67 Posted January 25, 2012 Share #4 Posted January 25, 2012 Im not in kentucky but Id say keep up the fight. north carolina just recntly added crossbow to everyone not just disabled hunters.n its another outlet for me as I was always hesitant with a compound bow because I m not able to put the time into practice. With the crossbow its more ethical tomhunt with. And yes I can fire 2 or 3 times with a copound and only get off one with crossbow david . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dacheedah Posted January 25, 2012 Share #5 Posted January 25, 2012 I'm from Illinois and have never used one, I have a huntin buddy that tore his shoulder up wrestling with a drill and it took him dr visits and paperwork requests and he lost about a month of hunting. After we got him back in a treestand we don't understand why they don't allow it for everyone. We kind of analyzed the whole crossbow vs compound bow thing and there are pros and cons to both. We talked about it alot and if you really wanted to use one almost any dr will sign off on the medical for you and you can get a permit anyways. I just think it's over regulation and them backstraps belong on my table anyways. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyRSTD Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share #6 Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) Im not in kentucky but Id say keep up the fight. north carolina just recntly added crossbow to everyone not just disabled hunters.n its another outlet for me as I was always hesitant with a compound bow because I m not able to put the time into practice. With the crossbow its more ethical tomhunt with. And yes I can fire 2 or 3 times with a copound and only get off one with crossbow david . Thanks David, I am planning on making sure that my opinion is heard. However I will rather not make it a debate or crossfire issue for everyone. We have enough of the anti-hunting people who would love to see this made into some sort of fight among us hunters. I really do not want that kinda negativeness about the issue. I appreciate all whom love to hunt as I do, and all others opinions. I may not even make that much difference, but if I don't, at least maybe the road will be graveled and better for someone else to try again. So far no real negatives at all, and I have to thank all those whom have paved this road and made it easier for other states to be able to become full inclusive with the crossbow. Daniel Hendricks is the one whom really started trying to make the crossbow full inclusive for all. He is the president of the American Crossbow Federation. We need Kentucky residents to contact the Commissioners at the Kentucky Fish & Wildlife Department and express our desire to see full inclusion of the crossbow. Contact Tim Farmer of Kentucky Afield TV show. Many positive voices will change this, this is what we need. Here is some contact information for everyone. Even if you do not hunt, your voice would be helpful if you agree with what has been said here. Kentucky Department of Fish and Wildlife Resources #1 Sportsman's Lane Frankfort, KY 40601 Phone 800-858-1549 Address e-mail or USPS mail to: Commissioner Dr. Jonathan W. Gassett info.center@ky.gov Kentucky Afield Radio Show Host; Russ Kennedy (he is the guy I will be on the radio talk show with) russ.kennedy@ky.gov Telephone 502-226-0077 Kentucky Afield TV Show Host; Tim Farmer, (he is also a motorcycle rider whom was injured in an accident, but he still shoots a verticle bow with his mouth piece, I highly respect this man and all he has done/accomplished. He never says anything negative about a motorcycle even though he was injured for life while riding.) tim.farmer@ky.gov. http://fw.ky.gov/kyafieldtv.asp Phone 800-858-1549 Kristina J. Brunjes, Ph.D. (this lady replied back to me when I sent my first e-mail to the commissioner, he ask her to respond to me.) Deer & Elk Program Coordinator Kentucky Dept. of Fish and Wildlife Resources #1 Sportsman's Lane Frankfort, KY 40601 tina.brunjes@ky.gov Phone 800-858-1549 http://www.fw.ky.gov Edited January 25, 2012 by FuzzyRSTD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Haywood Posted January 25, 2012 Share #7 Posted January 25, 2012 I am not a resident but I do own 60 acres down by Prestonsburg, KY with access to over a 1000 and I do hunt it. As a property owner i would love to see this become part of the hunting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyRSTD Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share #8 Posted January 25, 2012 I'm from Illinois and have never used one, I have a huntin buddy that tore his shoulder up wrestling with a drill and it took him dr visits and paperwork requests and he lost about a month of hunting. After we got him back in a treestand we don't understand why they don't allow it for everyone. We kind of analyzed the whole crossbow vs compound bow thing and there are pros and cons to both. We talked about it alot and if you really wanted to use one almost any dr will sign off on the medical for you and you can get a permit anyways. I just think it's over regulation and them backstraps belong on my table anyways. . . I agree, you should try a crossbow. They are so much fun to shoot. Children, with your help cocking of course, really enjoy shooting these bows to. Be sure to teach them to keep their fingers down away from the rail. The new ones have safety features that keep your forearm fingers away from the rail. Most all are scoped and very accurate now a days. Nothing like they used to be 5 years ago. I used to shoot my dear friends,Bill Rose. Bill passed away and left me with found memories of several hunts. His crossbow was so old and heavy, you could almost hang a 10 lb bag of flour on the trigger. Now the same manufacturer makes them with a range of around 3 - 4 lbs of trigger pull, and around 5-8 lbs in weight, nice. Very, very, very, accurate, same hole accuracy with most, and even the $300 to $450 range bows. I have a Parker Cyclone Express that shoots 340 feet per second and is 3 1/2 lb trigger. Scoped with a multi-reticle lighted ring center. I love it. Shooting it is a ball of fun. You better shoot at different spots or you will be buying several arrows. I belong to the Crossbow Nation Forum, check it out. http://www.crossbownation.com/forum2/ :thumbsup2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted January 25, 2012 Share #9 Posted January 25, 2012 Here in WI you can only hunt with a crossbow if you are disabled in a way that prevents you from pulling a bow. Our most recent big hunting regs accomplishment was allowing scopes with magnification on muzzle loaders during the muzzle loader deer season. (now I have to go out and buy another scope) I think cross bows are still a long way off here. I have not even heard of any rumblings in that direction. If cross bows are legalized here or if they create a cross bow season, then I will have to run out and buy one and learn to use it. I can't have any kind of a deer hunting season happen without me. Good luck in your quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyRSTD Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share #10 Posted January 25, 2012 Here in WI you can only hunt with a crossbow if you are disabled in a way that prevents you from pulling a bow. Our most recent big hunting regs accomplishment was allowing scopes with magnification on muzzle loaders during the muzzle loader deer season. (now I have to go out and buy another scope) I think cross bows are still a long way off here. I have not even heard of any rumblings in that direction. If cross bows are legalized here or if they create a cross bow season, then I will have to run out and buy one and learn to use it. I can't have any kind of a deer hunting season happen without me. Good luck in your quest. Well, start saving your money Jeff. There are several sites that I have been keeping up with on the crossbow issue there in WI. Check this out, Daniel Hendricks (president of the American Crossbow Federation) interview at the 2011 ATA show. You should try to do your part and contact the WI Fish and Wildlife Department. http://www.horizontalbowhunter.com/Columns/AllHBMNews/tabid/136/ctl/ArticleView/mid/575/articleId/122/Interview-With-Dan-Hendricks.aspx:thumbsup2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyRSTD Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share #11 Posted January 25, 2012 The state of PA just got good news yesterday. They have become full inclusive of the crossbow. The vote was 8 to 0 in favor. They are one of the biggest bow/deer hunting states in the East.:thumbsup2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted January 26, 2012 Share #12 Posted January 26, 2012 Well, start saving your money Jeff. There are several sites that I have been keeping up with on the crossbow issue there in WI. Check this out, Daniel Hendricks (president of the American Crossbow Federation) interview at the 2011 ATA show. You should try to do your part and contact the WI Fish and Wildlife Department. http://www.horizontalbowhunter.com/Columns/AllHBMNews/tabid/136/ctl/ArticleView/mid/575/articleId/122/Interview-With-Dan-Hendricks.aspx:thumbsup2: Oh drat........ That weren't in the budget yet...... So much for the budget....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleeye Posted January 26, 2012 Share #13 Posted January 26, 2012 That is great news Fuzzy. Here in Wisconsin you have to prove that you are disabled, or be 65 yrs of age. I'm there and am thinking about a crossbow. I've bowhunted for years, but not in recent times. Maybe next year with a crossbow? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyRSTD Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share #14 Posted January 27, 2012 That is great news Fuzzy. Here in Wisconsin you have to prove that you are disabled, or be 65 yrs of age. I'm there and am thinking about a crossbow. I've bowhunted for years, but not in recent times. Maybe next year with a crossbow? Steve Highly recommend one Steve. They are so far advanced now a days. You might be able to get a good deal on a last year model right now. I researched a lot and went with the Parker Cyclone Express. But there are several cheaper models and still respectful in the speed and kinetic energy range for a shot out to 30 - 40 yards even. The Cyclone has the adjustable stock like an assault rifle, this makes it user friendly for my wife if she wants to use it and hunt with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Horse Cowboy Posted January 27, 2012 Share #15 Posted January 27, 2012 The Cyclone has the adjustable stock like an assault rifle, this makes it user friendly for my wife if she wants to use it and hunt with me. Makes it user friendly for her to hunt with you or to hunt you? :rotf: C.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyRSTD Posted January 30, 2012 Author Share #16 Posted January 30, 2012 Makes it user friendly for her to hunt with you or to hunt you? :rotf: C.R. Thanks for the warning Steel Horse. I really had not thought of it that way. I also bought a few targets the other day to show her or refresh her of the correct way to use a pistol. Now you have got me thinking that maybe this could all be a bad idea. :fiddle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyRSTD Posted January 30, 2012 Author Share #17 Posted January 30, 2012 More information for those whom would like to take a little time and contact the district commissioners of the state and ask for full inclusion of the crossbow in archery season. All the phone numbers are here. I think they are up to date as far as I know for now. I am in the process of checking this out. [ATTACH]63756[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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