Guest tx2sturgis Posted January 27, 2012 #26 Posted January 27, 2012 I can build my own pcs and love doing it. Never got to go to Apple school to be trained on apple hardware sadly, so I use what I like and know best. I'm that way now with Mac and iOS...although I grew up with MSDOS and Windows yet I recently bought a Nook and installed an Android card. It's fun for me to have a broad user experience. I also have ubuntu and kubuntu, windows 95, windows 98, and windows xp as virtual machines on the iMac. To each his own of course.
SilvrT Posted January 27, 2012 #27 Posted January 27, 2012 Mint is based on ubuntu, and ubuntu is the 1st linux distribution that was user friendly to most people. To stay ahead of the curve and be innovative ubuntu made alot of changes over the years that have left people frustrated and going to things like Mint. Not exactly true. Corel came out with what I thought was the 1st Linux distibution that was user friendly way bak around 1999 known as Corel LinuxOS Second Edition. I believe I still have the CDs. Since then, there have been several others that were user friendly and I have "played" with most of them. When I setup my server, I tested various distos of Linux and Ubuntu just didn't cut it ... I finally went with SUSE ... but, that was 3 years ago so maybe today there's better distros but I'm still using SUSE. It just sits there and runs and never crashes, does what it's set up to do. One of the more "confusing" aspects of installing Linux is the HD partitioning. These days it's a lot less confusing but back then one had to have a good understanding of what was really happening and needed, especially when running a dual-boot setup. That being said, you still have to have some knowledge of partitioning today when doing that kind of an install.
GAWildKat Posted January 27, 2012 #28 Posted January 27, 2012 I didn't know about the Corel distro. Mike uses Mint on his desktop, and gentoo on his server. Unfortunately for him, his college requires he has windows to install the programs required for his programming classes. Otherwise he'd use whatever was readily available for linux. Sad when he's a better programmer than his teachers and they know it lol.
SilvrT Posted January 27, 2012 #29 Posted January 27, 2012 I didn't know about the Corel distro. Mike uses Mint on his desktop, and gentoo on his server. Unfortunately for him, his college requires he has windows to install the programs required for his programming classes. Otherwise he'd use whatever was readily available for linux. Sad when he's a better programmer than his teachers and they know it lol. I haven't done any recent research on Linux distros ... think I'll check out this "Mint" ... thanks for mentioning it!
Guest tx2sturgis Posted January 27, 2012 #30 Posted January 27, 2012 Yeah, just loaded Mint on as a virtual machine on the iMac, alongside Mac OS, Windows 98 and XP, and Kubuntu and Ubuntu. Gonna tinker around with it for awhile.
Guest tx2sturgis Posted January 27, 2012 #31 Posted January 27, 2012 Ok first impression of Mint: Yep, its linux, but it looks like a simplified, user friendly one. User friendly is always good. As I write this , I'm running it on my left monitor, (mac OS on the right monitor) and using the included firefox browser and watching some flash video on twit.tv. Its working well, and amazingly, it seems to run more effciently than when I open an additional safari window and running twit. Im watching the CPU % monitor on the mac and its around 40% CPU usage.....which is acceptable...not bad actually. I'll have more time to explore Mint later on this weekend. I may login from on the road with my ipad and see how it handles remote operation. So far, so good. Question: How do I go in and change the screensaver settings? I'm lost when it comes to digging into the guts of Linux. Update: Found it...click on the top right account name and it gave me a page full of settings, similar to Control Panel in Windows and Preferences in Mac OSX. Ok...cool....gonna hit the sack...gnite.
Kirby Posted January 27, 2012 #32 Posted January 27, 2012 Been using Mint 12 since it came out a few weeks ago and so far I wouldn't have anything else(well, at least till I try something else). Check out the linux forums if you have any questions. I've gotten a lot of help from them just by reading about others having this problem or that problem.
Guest tx2sturgis Posted January 27, 2012 #33 Posted January 27, 2012 Got news for yall....Mint is very mac-ish....I will grab some screen shots and prove it. Mac-ish is a good thing!
Guest tx2sturgis Posted January 27, 2012 #34 Posted January 27, 2012 Here are the system screens for (my) Mac OSX and the default Mint 12. Of course MacOX is also linux based, but its amazing to me that the Linux Mint Software engineers like MacOS so much they almost copied it. Thanks to them, yall are almost using a Mac!
SilvrT Posted January 28, 2012 #35 Posted January 28, 2012 I haven't done any recent research on Linux distros ... think I'll check out this "Mint" ... thanks for mentioning it! Well, here I am ... viewing the site via Firefox in Linux MINT! Not bad... not bad at all
Guest tx2sturgis Posted January 28, 2012 #36 Posted January 28, 2012 Well, here I am ... viewing the site via Firefox in Linux MINT! Not bad... not bad at all If you login under 'MATE' (login 'gear') it ends up looking and feeling like a hybrid of windows and mac OS...pretty cool....it seems to bring some goodies of mac OS with the advantages of windows...(which to me means its familiar to all the windows users) Try logging in under 'MATE' if you havent. Almost makes me wanna go buy a 'no OS' pc from Tiger Direct and load Mint on it.
SilvrT Posted January 28, 2012 #37 Posted January 28, 2012 If you login under 'MATE' (login 'gear') it ends up looking and feeling like a hybrid of windows and mac OS...pretty cool....it seems to bring some goodies of mac OS with the advantages of windows...(which to me means its familiar to all the windows users) Try logging in under 'MATE' if you havent. Almost makes me wanna go buy a 'no OS' pc from Tiger Direct and load Mint on it. What's the password?
SilvrT Posted January 28, 2012 #38 Posted January 28, 2012 Almost makes me wanna go buy a 'no OS' pc from Tiger Direct and load Mint on it. I have a second hard drive that I was running WinXP and another version of Linux on. I just cleared it and installed this onto it. When I want to boot into Windows 7 (which is on the other HD) or Linux I simply jump into the system setup and swap the boot drive.
Freebird Posted January 28, 2012 #39 Posted January 28, 2012 Well, I decided to take a look at Mint after I read the posts here. I downloaded it and ran it from the CD. It was interesting so I thought about installing it and giving it a try. First I decided to check the MDS on my download though and it didn't match. So I downloaded it again. The MDS on the new download matched perfectly. So I tried to boot with it and it won't boot. It runs a couple lines of code and then goes to a "ready" prompt and stops. I can still boot from the bad one but not from the good one. Tried burning another disk with the supposedly good one and same problem. So...I said to myself...the heck with it.
SilvrT Posted January 28, 2012 #40 Posted January 28, 2012 Well, I decided to take a look at Mint after I read the posts here. I downloaded it and ran it from the CD. It was interesting so I thought about installing it and giving it a try. First I decided to check the MDS on my download though and it didn't match. So I downloaded it again. The MDS on the new download matched perfectly. So I tried to boot with it and it won't boot. It runs a couple lines of code and then goes to a "ready" prompt and stops. I can still boot from the bad one but not from the good one. Tried burning another disk with the supposedly good one and same problem. So...I said to myself...the heck with it. If it boots ok from the 1st one (the "bad" one) ... and if it has the "Install" icon on the desktop, go for it. Heck, I didn't even check the MDS ... just burned the ISO to a DVD and booted up.
Guest tx2sturgis Posted January 28, 2012 #41 Posted January 28, 2012 I have a second hard drive that I was running WinXP and another version of Linux on. I just cleared it and installed this onto it. When I want to boot into Windows 7 (which is on the other HD) or Linux I simply jump into the system setup and swap the boot drive. I run Parallels Virtual Machine Software and 2 monitors on my iMac, and its kinda like yours, I can run any and all operating systems on the mac. In fact as I type this I am running Mac OS and Safari on the right side screen and running Linux Mint and Firefox, watching twit.tv, on the left screen. When I said 'almost' what I meant by that is....I'd like to see if there is any performance boost by giving the Linux OS its own hardware to control....I'm guessing there might be, but Linux seems quite happy running as a virtual machine on the mac. As is, its running fine as a virtual machine. I assigned it one core of the dual core processor, 1 gb of RAM(out of the 8GB installed) , 64 gb of expandable HD space ( out of 1 TB)...and of course it shares the network and some folders, and various other settings. But yeah it lets me easily test drive Linux Mint for free! Same as I have done with Ubuntu and other Linux distros.
SilvrT Posted January 28, 2012 #42 Posted January 28, 2012 Kindof Hijacking the thread here but... once Mint is installed, run the Update Manager and download/install the updates.
Guest tx2sturgis Posted January 28, 2012 #43 Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) What's the password? Same username and password as the one you used when you installed the software. Logging in under MATE (mode, not username) just changes the UI some. And if you go in and change the desktop theme to look like windows, its pretty close! 36,000 software packages available for Mint. Wow. Who needs winders? Edited January 28, 2012 by tx2sturgis
Guest tx2sturgis Posted January 28, 2012 #44 Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) Well, I decided to take a look at Mint after I read the posts here. I downloaded it and ran it from the CD. It was interesting so I thought about installing it and giving it a try. First I decided to check the MDS on my download though and it didn't match. So I downloaded it again. The MDS on the new download matched perfectly. So I tried to boot with it and it won't boot. It runs a couple lines of code and then goes to a "ready" prompt and stops. I can still boot from the bad one but not from the good one. Tried burning another disk with the supposedly good one and same problem. So...I said to myself...the heck with it. Don, can you set the bootup sequence to boot from the ISO image? Parallels on the mac can do that, and that way you avoid the burning process and all the errors that can happen there. I downloaded the 32bit Lisa version. (Lisa as in the early macintosh machines!) I never even ran the checksum. I just booted the virtual machine from the 'live' ISO, and when it ran fine, I installed it. I just dont know if your pc can be set to boot from an ISO image, either within windows or outside of it. http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=94 Edited January 28, 2012 by tx2sturgis
SilvrT Posted January 28, 2012 #45 Posted January 28, 2012 Same username and password as the one you used when you installed the software. Logging in under MATE (mode, not username) just changes the UI some. And if you go in and change the desktop theme to look like windows, its pretty close! I haven't seen anything that has to do with "mode" or "MATE" and there is only one Theme. That being said, I haven't finished downloading/installing the updates yet so maybe after that....
SilvrT Posted January 28, 2012 #46 Posted January 28, 2012 I haven't seen anything that has to do with "mode" or "MATE" and there is only one Theme. That being said, I haven't finished downloading/installing the updates yet so maybe after that.... Ah-ha! .. found it under Advanced Settings | Theme
Guest tx2sturgis Posted January 28, 2012 #47 Posted January 28, 2012 I haven't seen anything that has to do with "mode" or "MATE" and there is only one Theme. That being said, I haven't finished downloading/installing the updates yet so maybe after that.... Top right, click your username, click logout. Then after you are logged out, click the 'gear' near the login box. Scroll down for MATE. Then login again. If none of this is working, then maybe you have one of the other versions? http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=94
SilvrT Posted January 28, 2012 #48 Posted January 28, 2012 Top right, click your username, click logout. Then after you are logged out, click the 'gear' near the login box. Scroll down for MATE. Then login again. If none of this is working, then maybe you have one of the other versions? http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=94 got the right version.... didn't realize what you meant by "gear" at first .... I'm "IN" now... thanks.
Guest tx2sturgis Posted January 28, 2012 #49 Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) Speaking of windows, yall be aware that there are some phone scams out there. The 'tech' calls YOU and offers to help you get rid of malware. What he is actually doing is convincing you to install malware! This has been going on for awhile...its not new. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4z6mU-xblE&feature=related]Phone Scam - Microsoft Calling "You have a virus" - YouTube[/ame] [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMoPcy_q6nQ&feature=related]Getting Scammed by Fake Tech-Support Calls - YouTube[/ame] Edited January 28, 2012 by tx2sturgis
Guest tx2sturgis Posted January 28, 2012 #50 Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) got the right version.... didn't realize what you meant by "gear" at first .... I'm "IN" now... thanks. Kewl! I'm still looking around and checking out some features. By no means am I knowledgeable on Linux. But parts of it are familiar since Mac OS is partly based on Unix, which is related to Linux. http://mate-desktop.org/about/ Edited January 28, 2012 by tx2sturgis
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