put a kumho on yesterday

[muffinman]

Well I put a car tire on the wing yesterday. I must say I am impressed after 400 + miles I may try to find one for the blonde it handles the wet very well and is pretty responsive in the curves at highway speeds.all that's left to test in 100+ on the slabs. I will try to keep this updated as I work on wearing it out over the next couple months.

 

 

Jeff

[Roadhand]

I have been thinking pretty strongly about trying one.

I got 10,530 on my Bridgestone and just picked up a nail last week so I purchased another one. While doing this I was leaning very hard toward placing a car tire on here but for some reason I just did not do it.

Let me know how you get along with yours as I know of several that have made the switch.

[Pam]

I am interested in this as well as the tire on my wing is getting ready to to to tire heaven, I am considering a Ct as well

[Tom]

I have one on my wing also.195/55/16 Kumho run flat and have about 1800 miles on it. Have run in rain,scraped the floorboards and hwy pegs just to see if it holds good and ran in a POURING DOWN RAIN and so far Im OK with it,no problems..NOW I would never put one on my Venture when I had the Venture for one reason...Had to add WAYYYY to much air to get the tire to seat,on my Wing it seated at about 20 25 lbs or less. In MY mind allowing a tire to go to 80 90 or above LBS stresses the tire,THIS IS JUST MY OPINION..I know alot of guys that do it on the Venture,not me.

[Hummingbird]

took almost 100 lbs to seat mine - the only stress I heard was the extra loup pop when it seated

[SilvrT]

I am interested in this as well as the tire on my wing is getting ready to to to tire heaven, I am considering a Ct as well

 

I will definitely be going to the dark side this coming summer.

[ashley9187]

Ok, now my 2 cents worth. I have had my Kumho on my 08 Venture for about a year now and for the type of riding I do I should have done this a long time ago. Now for some more info about my riding. My bike is equipped with a Champion Escort sidecar about 2006 model and adds about almost 200 pounds to the bike. Riding with that kind of weight and towing a trailer the Kumho tire that I had mounted on my bike has given me a tremendous amount of traction and stability on both acceleration and deceleration on my bike. Taking sharp curves and turns in the hill country of central Texas is also so much more stable no slipping and no sliding at all unless your on a a wet road.

 

So far I have about 11,000 miles on the tire and so far not much in wear is showing.

 

I think and this is my opinion, this is about as good as it gets.

 

Rick A. aka (ashley9187) aka (sidecar)

Edited December 12, 2011 by ashley9187
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[peterbooth]

Ok, now my 2 cents worth. I have had my Kumho on my 08 Venture for about a year now and for the type of riding I do I should have done this a long time ago. Now for some more info about my riding. My bike is equipped with a Champion Escort sidecar about 2006 model and adds about almost 200 pounds to the bike. Riding with that kind of weight and towing a trailer the Kumho tire that I had mounted on my bike has given me a tremendous amount of traction and stability on both acceleration and deceleration on my bike. Taking sharp curves and turns in the hill country of central Texas is also so much more stable no slipping and no sliding at all unless your on a a wet road.

 

So far I have about 11,000 miles on the tire and so far not much in wear is showing.

 

I think and this is my opinion, this is about as good as it gets.

 

 

 

Rick A. aka (ashley9187) aka (sidecar)

Rick

 

What pressure do you have in the tire:confused24:

[muffinman]

well I got the wing back from the dealer yesterday they put a new transmission in it so I am back on the car tire it did real well in the high winds this morning I will post more when I get around the 1000 mile mark probably next week. So far I like it

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[BigBoyinMS]

When I put the Kumho on my Venture a few years ago I tried pressure from 48 down to 28. I eventually stopped at 38lbs because it felt more like an M/C tire. But when it came to grip for braking and turns the Kumho was a load better than the M/C tire.

[Aimhigh]

I, too, have wrestled with the C/T thing...just don't know. I see what everyone posts, pro and con...the pros seem to out weigh the cons, BUT, I cannot get past the thought that if it was the thing to do, Honda would put them on from the factory, or, at least, okay them (including dealership installation for those that want to change over). To me, a machine is engineered a certain way...and to mess with that engineering is to ask for trouble. That being said, I am leaning (heavily) on trying it next tire change. See...I told you this is troubling to me!!!!

[CaptainJoe]

TOM"on my Wing it seated at about 20 25 lbs or less. In MY mind allowing a tire to go to 80 90 or above LBS stresses the tire,THIS IS JUST MY OPINION..I know alot of guys that do it on the Venture,not me."

 

 

Thats because on a Venture rear mag, there is a raised 1/8-3/16th rib about 1"? in from the edge of the rim...

 

 

I have not seen this rib on any other mags i have owned. ??? Has anyone else experienced ribs, on inner portion of rim? Tom, does your honda rims have these ribs? When trying to seat my the tire, it got stuck on this rib.

 

Can only speculate if one were to put rim back on bike without tire, and let her run in say 2nd gear on a stand, that those ribs, could be removed? and then probably only take 20 lbs psi to seat... Not saying to do this just speculating???

 

Myself i have a new Kumho and will probably bring it up to MD to get rid of it... 80psi and no seat was more than enough for me...

Edited January 13, 2012 by CaptainJoe

[Tom]

I didn't notice a ring the Wing rimlooks so like a car rimevenDiscount Tire thought it was. I'm staying with my CT. Handles great. Biggest obstacle I have is when I start thinking about it but if I just ride I can do anything on the WING as if it had a MC tire on it.

[muffinman]

Well after 7000 miles since install I can tell you that I really like the kumho tire on the wing.It handles great feels stable even at 130 mph the only bad thnig I can say about it is that after running high speeds when I stop for fuel I smell the tire but after looking at it a few times it doesnt bother me any more.I am going to try to find a CT to fit the first gen so when I get the sidecar attached it might last longer then the last tire did.If I keep a wing I will definatly stay with the CT on the back

Jeff

[twigg]

I, too, have wrestled with the C/T thing...just don't know. I see what everyone posts, pro and con...the pros seem to out weigh the cons, BUT, I cannot get past the thought that if it was the thing to do, Honda would put them on from the factory, or, at least, okay them (including dealership installation for those that want to change over). To me, a machine is engineered a certain way...and to mess with that engineering is to ask for trouble. That being said, I am leaning (heavily) on trying it next tire change. See...I told you this is troubling to me!!!!

 

Honda can not do this.

 

What Honda is concerned about is Product Liability. If they recommend a tyre type, then they are warranting that it is safe to use. The costs involved in product testing would cripple them.

 

We see exactly the same thing with Shell Rotella Diesel Oil .... It's spec is almost identical to the very expensive motorcycle oil they sell, yet they will not certify the Diesel oil for motorcycles. It's part product liability, and part marketing.

 

If we took the view that we should only ever use "approved" items, then you would ride a stock bike, and have the dealer service it ... forever. Yet on this Forum we even help people change brake calipers to those designed for another machine ...brake calipers!!!

 

There now exists millions of miles of real world testing of car tyres fitted to motorcycles, and the only evidence that it is a bad choice, is some people thinking that it MUST be a bad choice.

 

That is no evidence at all after all those safe miles.

 

There is one further point that matters ... Honda has to certify the tyres right up to the performance potential of the bike. With some models this is not far short of 200mph.

 

I doubt many riders reach even half of that speed, and even then not for very long.

 

You probably wouldn't fit a car tyre to your R1, for a Track Day.

Edited February 9, 2012 by twigg

[1joeranger]

Put my Kumho 165/80 R15 on in Jan 2010 with 25K miles on the bike. The Honda dealership could not seat the tire since their air tank capacity ended at 80psi. Fortunately another associate from here had a friend whose tank exceeded the 110+/- psi it took to seat her. The "pop" made me jump. That has been my only "negative" experience with the tire. After 2yrs and 20K+ hard riding miles usually hauling a heavy trailer (some of you have seen her) I have no regrets! I cannot tell that any tread has been worn off. I keep her inflated at 40psi and the dyna beads I put in her work. I always thought I would return to a mc tire after this just to see what I might be missing handling wise, but na! I'm sticking to the dark side!!!

[muaymendez1]

I have bneen thinking about this for some time and thinking about doing it as well but I am very curious. If it takes so much pressure to seat the tire how difficult is it to remove the tire.

also has the bead been properly lubed and who is installing this. All mc shops I deal with wont touch a car tire. they dont want to be held liable for anything especially an exploding rim.

[muffinman]

Well I installed mine myself lubed it up real good and it seated at 49 psi I like it alot but the bike is back in the shop so it may be a while before I get more time on it i have 7 k on it and am very happy.