Guest tx2sturgis Posted October 4, 2011 #26 Posted October 4, 2011 The 93 Octane shouldn't have made a difference Maybe your ignition is a little too far advanced. The higher octanes actually have less energy in them, not more, they just burn more easily which they need to do because of higher compression ratios. Lots of variables that could affect this. High octane gasoline does have less energy per gallon, but high octane fuels dont burn MORE easily, they burn LESS easily. Octane is a detonation inhibitor, it slows the ignition of the fuel in the combustion cylinder.
twigg Posted October 4, 2011 #27 Posted October 4, 2011 High octane gasoline does have less energy per gallon, but high octane fuels dont burn MORE easily, they burn LESS easily. Octane is a detonation inhibitor, it slows the ignition of the fuel in the combustion cylinder. mea culpa I was thinking the right thing, and said it the wrong way round
FuzzyRSTD Posted October 4, 2011 #28 Posted October 4, 2011 I've used B-12 Chemtool, and it works just as well as Seafoam and only cost $2.89 last week at Wally World. But when I can find Seafoam on sale, like it was at Advance Auto Parts last month for $5.99 a can, I'll stock up on a few just to have around. I also ran 93 octane in my tank on my 320 mile return home from NC last week, and the bike ran great! Thanks, now that is the name of that stuff I could not remember in my last post here, and I was close on the price. Fuzzy
V7Goose Posted October 5, 2011 #29 Posted October 5, 2011 I've used B-12 Chemtool, and it works just as well as Seafoam and only cost $2.89 last week at Wally World. But when I can find Seafoam on sale, like it was at Advance Auto Parts last month for $5.99 a can, I'll stock up on a few just to have around. I also ran 93 octane in my tank on my 320 mile return home from NC last week, and the bike ran great!B-12 Chemtool may, or may not, be a good product; I do not have an opinion yet. I have used it several times, but have not seen any noticeable result, either good or bad. HOWEVER, it is NOT equivalent to SeaFoam! The label seems to imply that it is much harsher, it specifically says it cannot be used in a diesel engine, and I do not recall seeing anything on it that says it works as a fuel stabilizer. It is certainly cheaper than SeaFoam, but it is not the same at all. I will continue to test it in different situations to see if it seems to clean as well. But based on what I have seen so far, I do not suggest that anyone add it to the fuel and leave it soak long term like we sometimes do with SeaFoam. Goose
Yammer Dan Posted October 5, 2011 #30 Posted October 5, 2011 As much as I hate to agree with a feathered birdbrain he is right on this one. I use the BerryMan's for drastic cleaning. It is great at cutting crud but I don't like it to be around seals or gaskets long.
KenP Posted October 5, 2011 #31 Posted October 5, 2011 Has anybody tried Chevron Techron Concentrate?? http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/additives/tcp.aspx
V7Goose Posted October 5, 2011 #32 Posted October 5, 2011 Has anybody tried Chevron Techron Concentrate?? http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/additives/tcp.aspx Techron has a very good reputation in many circles. I have used it some, but not in the type of situation where I could clearly say it made a huge difference. I guess the most telling thing for me is that when I have been faced with a moderate problem that may or may not be a carb or injector issue, I have tried the "other stuff", but every time I have been certain that the issue was a carb problem, I went to SeaFoam, and every time it made a difference. I guess I'm just going to have to force myself to try the "other stuff" first when faced with those bad situations if I am ever going to get a better comparison! Goose
Bobby G Posted October 5, 2011 #33 Posted October 5, 2011 B-12 Chemtool may, or may not, be a good product; I do not have an opinion yet. I have used it several times, but have not seen any noticeable result, either good or bad. HOWEVER, it is NOT equivalent to SeaFoam! The label seems to imply that it is much harsher, it specifically says it cannot be used in a diesel engine, and I do not recall seeing anything on it that says it works as a fuel stabilizer. It is certainly cheaper than SeaFoam, but it is not the same at all. I will continue to test it in different situations to see if it seems to clean as well. But based on what I have seen so far, I do not suggest that anyone add it to the fuel and leave it soak long term like we sometimes do with SeaFoam. Goose Goose, I don't disagree with your assessment, and I should have elaborated on how and when I use B-12 in my bike. I have only added it as a fuel system cleaning agent when I was running a full tank through, never just to leave it in as a fuel stabilizer. I believe it performs very well in that capacity. Thanks.
Yammer Dan Posted October 5, 2011 #34 Posted October 5, 2011 Goose, I don't disagree with your assessment, and I should have elaborated on how and when I use B-12 in my bike. I have only added it as a fuel system cleaning agent when I was running a full tank through, never just to leave it in as a fuel stabilizer. I believe it performs very well in that capacity. Thanks. Yep!!
Rick Haywood Posted October 6, 2011 #35 Posted October 6, 2011 My Daughter works at Menards part time while attending College and she let me know that Menards sells Sea Foam there adn the regular price is $6.48 a can. So went there today to see and sure enough so I bought a couple of can for all the cars, mowers and motorcycles.
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