barend Posted September 19, 2011 #1 Posted September 19, 2011 So my wife works for a guy who produces golf training aids (orangewhiptrainer.com). They are trying to find a better way to adhere a rubber mat to a plastic shell. Seems to me there should be something out there which will create a permanent chemical bond other then glue. Anybody out there know anything about plastics? Btw, I'm asking on my own, not at the request of my wife or her boss. Thanks
SilvrT Posted September 19, 2011 #2 Posted September 19, 2011 I would think an industrial quality contact cement would work. The trick to using that stuff is to smear it on liberally on both surfaces, let it dry to the touch, and then put the two materials together VERY CAREFULLY aligning them. If the plastic is glossy smooth, rough it up some with sandpaper.
Black Owl Posted September 19, 2011 #3 Posted September 19, 2011 What type of "plastic" are you dealing with?
KeithR Posted September 19, 2011 #4 Posted September 19, 2011 When I was in the Industrial Supply business I use to sell SC2000 Tip Top Glue for repairing conveyor belts.....have a look at their site may do the trick? Keith http://products-rtti.rema-tiptop.com/product_info.php/info/p115_Cement-SC-2000.html
M61A1MECH Posted September 19, 2011 #5 Posted September 19, 2011 If it is possible to mold the rubber in place onto the plastic, much depends on the type of plastic and rubber, cure times and temps involved. There is a company called Chemloc, owned by Lords Corporation, they make adhesive systems for exactly what they are trying to do. We over mold natural rubber and fluorosilicone on to PEEK (high performace plastic) and titaium where I work all the time. The process requires that the rubber be vulcanized during the process that kicks off the adhesion system and permanently bonds the rubber to the substrat. Should be able to find Chemloc and Lord Corpoation with a simple Google search.
barend Posted September 20, 2011 Author #6 Posted September 20, 2011 thanks for the info, I'll pass it on. It is an injection molded shape, smooth with an inlaid checkerboard pattern. I know they've tried heating, sanding, different adhesives primers and even PVC cleaner. Two of the units came back (0.5%) with the rubber mat having let go after being transported in a Fed-Ex truck this summer.
Flyinfool Posted September 20, 2011 #7 Posted September 20, 2011 If one of the two materials is polyethylene they are pretty much SOL. Polyethylene is what they make many bottles, like glue bottles, out of because there is nothing that will stick to it and very few chemicals that will attack it. It is easier to bond wax paper than it is polyethylene. They may have to resort to pop rivets or screws.
SC89Venture Posted September 20, 2011 #8 Posted September 20, 2011 try green bean casserole - that sticks to everything and anything when it dries and get's hard. :rotf::rotf:
The Marshal Posted September 20, 2011 #9 Posted September 20, 2011 Have you tried 3M "77" spray adhesive? I would use that to stick rubber floorboard matts to my Jetski. Talk about abuse. Immersed in water constantly, gas and oil environment, lots of force and abrasion applied by feet/legs/hands. You couldn't get them off without a scraper.
barend Posted September 20, 2011 Author #10 Posted September 20, 2011 It LOOKS like it would be the same as what They make the kid's slides, playhouses and such out of.
Flyinfool Posted September 20, 2011 #12 Posted September 20, 2011 Linear Polyethylene Forget about gluing anything to it.
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