Eck Posted December 13, 2007 #26 Posted December 13, 2007 Ok....After careful consideration I will consider getting a 3rd Generation RSV.....only if it comes with a nice cooler for cheesecake. Well Squidley made the cooler rack, and Lonna is in the kitchen with the cheese cake, so I hope someone has the cooler for it.
Squidley Posted December 13, 2007 #27 Posted December 13, 2007 MP3 players will be going by the wayside soon, and y'all will be using a thumb drive, like one of these. Hey Squid, why don't you like an inline four? The last bike I rode before getting this one was an '81 XS1100, which has an I4. I thought that engine was pretty nice. It ran a lot smoother than our current V4. The only thing I want in the next bike is more power. If the FJR 1300 can make 145 hp, then there's no excuse for our V4 1300 not to be making that much. We don't really need to have 1800 cubes to get more power. And if they do happen to give the Venture the new 1800, they'll probably detune it to where it's not making any more power than that anyway. Lynn, I have had several inlines, and they do what they are supposed to. I just dont like the jerky throttle responce off of many that I have ridden. I wouldn't want that on a touring bike, and I really do like how the V4 sounds. I do agree that it doesn't need to be a huge displacement, just an efficient use of power. With a little time and effort our V4's will rock and roll, I have no problems with the 1300cc's....perhaps the Vmax rearend is just what I need to cure that itch
CrazyHorse Posted December 13, 2007 #28 Posted December 13, 2007 They weren't raised on Harleys, Indians, and the English cafe racers. They're the "Honda Generation" that expects the smoothness, the gadgetry, etc. of that style of bike. As we OFs thin out, so to speak, the big cube, noise makers--just like the muscle cars of our youth were replaced--will be replaced with whining 10KRPM crotch rockets. I think your right about this. The classic look was what many here grew up with. Many baby boomers wanting nostaglia fueled the market for that classic look that took place over the last decade or so. If I remember right wasnt Harley just about down and out 20 yrs ago with crap products leaky bikes etc. Look at choppers came back for awhile now they are fading away again. Bobbers were comin back sort of but the only increase in sales are those new Enduro types like BMW R1200GS style.
Snarley Bill Posted December 13, 2007 #29 Posted December 13, 2007 i am very ultra conservative on just about everything but technology.i was brought up with whizzer motorbikes and cushman scooters and old british bikes and xlch's with kick start and magneto ignition.i have an rstd ,v-star 1300, kaw zx14,yamaha majesty scooter and a chinese yamati scooter with a honda helix clone motor.i love them all,and i love new engineering technics and improvements in a product .i still have a place in my heart for the nostagic things.i hope yamaha does'nt come out with the new v-max engine in a new tourer. cuz if they do, and do it right one will be in my garage garanteed. :clap2:
MikeM8560 Posted December 13, 2007 #30 Posted December 13, 2007 Ill take a revamped 1 gen but wouldnt a inline 4 be wider then a v 4?I wouldnt like that. not saying i dont like the cruiser style but wish they hand change the venture . the roadstar could handle the cruisers say a roadstar tour delux:confused24: anfd a first gens tly venture:thumbsup2:
Older... Posted December 13, 2007 #31 Posted December 13, 2007 Maybe instead of a 3rd generation as being discussed, the Venture goes away like the Voyager and Cavilcade have done. Both of those were fine rides too, for many many loyal owners of yesteryear.
Mariner Fan Posted December 13, 2007 #32 Posted December 13, 2007 Maybe instead of a 3rd generation as being discussed, the Venture goes away like the Voyager and Cavilcade have done. Both of those were fine rides too, for many many loyal owners of yesteryear. That would blow. I got to test ride a Suzuki Cavalcade and thought it was a very nice bike. I couldn't believe the shop let a young pup like me take the bike out (This was back in 1986). Go figure, another guy crashed that bike a week later on a test ride.
CrazyHorse Posted December 14, 2007 #33 Posted December 14, 2007 I love them all,and i love new engineering technics and improvements in a product .i still have a place in my heart for the nostagic things.i hope yamaha does'nt come out with the new v-max engine in a new tourer. cuz if they do, and do it right one will be in my garage garanteed. :clap2: I'd be next to you line. I've been thinking bout Kawasaki Concours anyone have one?
lockdoc Posted December 14, 2007 #34 Posted December 14, 2007 Had a sit on one before I bought my 04 venture. Its a sports bike with luggage. Also looked at all the BM's and sold my ST1100 to get my Venture. The Venture has to be the most comfortable touring rig out there.
noahzark Posted December 14, 2007 Author #35 Posted December 14, 2007 . . . i was brought up with whizzer motorbikes and cushman scooters and old british bikes and xlch's with kick start and magneto ignition. . . . OK, maybe I'm a youngin' here at 62--I barely remember the Whizzers and Cushmans, but I had a friend whose Royal Enfield, with magneto, used to launch him about every 10th time he tried to start it. My BSA was much tamer. I don't know about the rest of you, but I've really enjoyed the comments on this subject. Going back to my first post, I was wrong when I said I knew I was going to regret requesting comments. Thanks to each of you for those comments, Merry Christmas and have a great riding New Year.
Red Ryder Posted February 19, 2008 #36 Posted February 19, 2008 Maybe just a rumor, but I heard they are comming out with a lighter frame, that way they can put in 8 track tapes along with cassetts. Later-:rotf:
bongobobny Posted February 19, 2008 #37 Posted February 19, 2008 If it stops looking like a Harley and starts looking more like a Yamaha touring bike and has FI I would consider selling Goldie and buying one...
Silver Bullet Posted February 19, 2008 #38 Posted February 19, 2008 I wonder how hard would it be to just fix the things that we think are wrong with the mtr. we have now? I know it wouldn't take much doing to fix the noisy clutch. how hard would it be to get more horses out of this de-tuned little mtr.? and why would I want it anyway?[because]it's better to have it and not need it- than not to have it and need it.:doh:
Bartley Posted February 20, 2008 #39 Posted February 20, 2008 I certainly hope Yamaha comes out with a 3rd gen. I give Yamaha full points for style in both the 1st gen and 2nd gen tourers. The 1st gen was styled slick to emphasize speed and agility. The 2nd gen has gorgeous classic styling. Therefore I'm confident that if and when Yamaha comes out with a 3rd gen, it will be a beautiful machine to look at. I certainly hope they don't what Victory did with their new Vision. That bike has a total identity crisis. It has an "old" motor design - air cooled V-twin, a belt drive, all wrapped up in a most futuristic body style:confused24: with much of the latest technology. I don't know who this bike is supposed to appeal to as a total package. I'm hoping Yamaha doesn't go this route. I will however say that the Victory Vision is an extremely comfortable bike to ride - much more so than a Goldwing IMHO. Too bad it's so fugly:yikes: So here's to a 3rd gen (if and when). May it meet everyone's desires!
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