BIG TOM Posted September 28, 2011 #26 Posted September 28, 2011 one more try.... AT THE EDGE OF THE ROOF !!!!!!!
Marcarl Posted September 28, 2011 Author #27 Posted September 28, 2011 one more try.... AT THE EDGE OF THE ROOF !!!!!!! You not so smart either,,, that was before he jumped.
saddlebum Posted September 28, 2011 #29 Posted September 28, 2011 At a point Half way between before he jumped and after he jumped
Trader Posted September 28, 2011 #31 Posted September 28, 2011 There is no ONE definite answer ! He could be; landed back on the roof, still in the air, on the ground, on an awning, balcony or any other object or person below, in the hospital in the morgue! OR BACK HOME TRYING TO FORGET ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING!!!!!!
Flyinfool Posted September 28, 2011 #32 Posted September 28, 2011 So a man was on a roof, and jumped off. Where was he when he jumped? The statement says that he WAS on a roof. Was is past tense, so it is ovious that he is no longer on the roof. So to answer the question asked, the answer would be "somewhere other than on the roof". Now to take the other logical approach, to jump means to gain height or according to Merriam-Webster "To spring into the air". Therefor he would have to be above the roof. Even if he jumped down from the roof He would have still been above it for some period of time till he cleared the edge of the roof. IF he did not "spring into the air" to be airborne above the roof for at least a moment, then he would have stepped off the rood and not jumped. So there you have it..... Splained so even a cave man can get it.......
XV1100SE Posted September 28, 2011 #33 Posted September 28, 2011 Okay.... my turn to leap into the fray.... so to speak.... ..... to jump means to gain height or according to Merriam-Webster "To spring into the air". The original post was : "So a man was on a roof, and jumped off." It doesn't just say that he jumped up but specifically "jumped off". Didn't step off the roof.... didn't jump up (or he would have landed back on the roof). So... going back to the original post : "So a man was on a roof, and jumped off. Where was he when he jumped?" The first sentence is the key to where he was when he jumped, and direction ("off") is a misdirection (sort of like Carl's u-turns on every group ride). If you read the question... "Where was he when he jumped".... it doesn't ask where he was after he jumped or during the jump, or where he landed... it asks specifically where he was when he jumped. Clearly at the moment he jumped he was on the roof as was stated in the first sentence. Problem solved.
Flyinfool Posted September 28, 2011 #34 Posted September 28, 2011 Off only means no longer in contact with, it does not imply to the ground or some other object, only that he was no longer in contact with the roof. If he only jumped straight up he is still off the roof till he lands. Since jump means spring into the air, he has not technically jumped until he is no longer in contact with the roof. So I stick with my answer of "above the roof", since the moment that his motion becomes a jump he must still be above the roof. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.......
XV1100SE Posted September 28, 2011 #35 Posted September 28, 2011 I think I still have the answer based on the question of where he was when he jumped. Something tells me we won't get "the answer" from Carl....
Flyinfool Posted September 28, 2011 #36 Posted September 28, 2011 I think Carl was just trying to cause trouble.........
Marcarl Posted September 28, 2011 Author #37 Posted September 28, 2011 Anybody do book binding,,, we may have a book by the time we find the answer,,,,, although some of the arguments look fairly well thought out,,, especially Don's,,,, but is he right???? after all, if you think about it,, he was in the air, after he jumped, for how else would he be in the air?
Flyinfool Posted September 28, 2011 #38 Posted September 28, 2011 Like I said. Carl is just out to cause trouble..... He has explained why everyone but me is wrong. Way back on page one Carl said he did not know the answer, that is why he asked. So I am still sticking with my answer.:rasberry:
Marcarl Posted September 29, 2011 Author #39 Posted September 29, 2011 Just because me doesn't know the answer, doesn't mean that I don't what the answer isn't.
BIG TOM Posted October 1, 2011 #40 Posted October 1, 2011 Just because me doesn't know the answer, doesn't mean that I don't what the answer isn't. Why ?
AKRefugee Posted October 1, 2011 #41 Posted October 1, 2011 So a man was on a roof, and jumped off. Where was he when he jumped? I asked my 6 year old neighbor and he got it right away "Where he wasn't when he jumped, DUH!!!!":bang head:
Marcarl Posted October 28, 2011 Author #43 Posted October 28, 2011 I asked my 6 year old neighbor and he got it right away "Where he wasn't when he jumped, DUH!!!!":bang head: no sense It took a while,,, but I really think we have some viable answers.
mbrood Posted December 17, 2011 #44 Posted December 17, 2011 Really quite seasonal and logical... first he was a bit early, second he was next to the chimney. But that still doesn't explain how he can go down a chimney in a red suit and come out clean. And just exactly what DO they feed those reindeer? ('cause I want some...)
GolfVenture Posted December 18, 2011 #45 Posted December 18, 2011 Where was he when he jumped? He was at the place he was, just before he jumped.
hig4s Posted December 18, 2011 #46 Posted December 18, 2011 Where was he when he jumped? He was at the place he was, just before he jumped. It is all about English language. Before he jumped he was on the roof, after he jumped he was off the roof. But the question asked "Where was he WHEN he jumped?" This is a transitional period and he can be considered both on and off the roof, much like Schrodinger's cat can be considered both alive and dead. But a further answer would be above the roof, because if it were before when he was standing on the roof, or the instant after he jumped off the roof or in the transitional stage of jumping, in all those cases he would still be above the roof.
Marcarl Posted December 19, 2011 Author #47 Posted December 19, 2011 It is all about English language. Before he jumped he was on the roof, after he jumped he was off the roof. But the question asked "Where was he WHEN he jumped?" This is a transitional period and he can be considered both on and off the roof, much like Schrodinger's cat can be considered both alive and dead. But a further answer would be above the roof, because if it were before when he was standing on the roof, or the instant after he jumped off the roof or in the transitional stage of jumping, in all those cases he would still be above the roof. Wow,, now that's getting right down deep, almost sorry I asked the question, now I'm more confused than before..... but, you may be right,,, who knows???
hig4s Posted December 19, 2011 #48 Posted December 19, 2011 Wow,, now that's getting right down deep, almost sorry I asked the question, now I'm more confused than before..... but, you may be right,,, who knows??? Sorry, I've just been looking for an excuse to mention Schrodinger's cat in a post for some time. Now if I can find a thread where mentioning Rock, Paper, Sissors, Lizard, Spock will make sense, it will make my day!!
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