question for those of use in Canada

[Tnventurer]

I have just returned from a job in Milton doing a sound proofing for a studio among other things for an individual . Because of the guys on here I was really looking forward to this week in the north. But to my surprise I was met with some bad attitudes from some when some of the locals found out I was from " The States" . Don't take me wrong some where very nice ,but others where not so nice. Am I missing something? Why is this ? Thanks .......Fred

[Yammer Dan]

We have a duel Citizen working for us that I would like to send back. Or maybe he is here because they wanted to get rid of him!! People like that are everywhere!!

[sarges46]

Cant make excuses for them Fred. Got bad apples everywhere. You won't many on this site though!

 

I hope that experience doesn't taint your thoughts of all because for the most part we are kinda laid back.

[Joopster55]

As I Canadian, I get the same attitude from my fellow Canadians. Having said that, as a former truck driver travelling throughout the USA, I've gotten that same attitude from a lot of Americans as well. But, I have met a lot of very friendly, helpful, Americans and Canadians. It dosen't matter where you travel to, you are always going to find someone with an attitude and all you want to do is kick that person in the ass.

 

I'm sorry that some of my fellow Canadians have given you a rough time, but you never know these days, where that person's original country is.:canada::canada::canada:

[Tnventurer]

you guys are right, ,On another note, MAN THE BEER IS EXSPENSIVE!.....Fred

[wild hair 39]

one thing i found out about canada,don't talk to people at gas stations,and rest stops,or you will be there a lot longer.open your mouth,and the all will start talking to you,must be my white hair,sure ain't my looks

i will do it again,in the neer future,practicing up on my B S

[Tnventurer]

Went to a place in Miltom called Lucys , Great fish ! But MAN THE BEER WAS EXSPENSIVE!......

[dragerman]

Hey Fred... I’m really sorry to hear that.

 

No, that is not an attitude that is reflective of all Canadians but certainly we have a few. Guess that can be said about anywhere though. Quite frankly I feel at home in either country and like the people just the same!!

 

The bottom line is that a bad attitude is a bad attitude… it is my experience that these people are generally unhappy and will find anything to complain about. They obviously aren’t Venture Riders!

[86er]

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i will do it again,in the neer future,practicing up on my B S

 

Hey Lowell, that's one thing you don't need any practice on!!!

 

[chabicheka]

we experience that ourselves travelling from one province to the other...so i wouldnt worry too much about it.

 

 

and how come you didnt warn us about your coming here? we would have loved to meet you. lots of members in this area that you visited.

[Leadwolf56]

I can tell you that all of the Canadians I've met at Fort Collins, Maintenance Day and in Kitchener in the past few months have all been very nice people. Ventureriders and Southern Cruisers, both have been very nice. We'll be going back a few times next year.

[hipshot]

hey fred, did you buy any beer while you were in canada?

i heard it is fairly cheap, and don't taste good either!

just jt.

 

 

no ill will intended to any citizen of canada.

jt.

[SilvrT]

you guys are right, ,On another note, MAN THE BEER IS EXSPENSIVE!.....Fred

 

Ah yes...but at least it is REAL BEER !

 

[SilvrT]

hey fred, did you buy any beer while you were in canada?

i heard it is fairly cheap, and don't taste good either!

just jt.

 

 

no ill will intended to any citizen of canada.

jt.

 

Of course... that's the imported beer from the USA!

[Cdnlouie]

Hey Fred, I do apologize for my fellow Canadians unhospitable behaviour and I will attempt to explain a few pits we all fall into at times. I have lived in the US for part of my life and have two American son-in-laws and a grand-child who has dual citizenship, so I have learned to negotiate the issues.

 

First off, never assume Canadians are just like Americans or vice versa. This guarantees you will may well be offended or become the offender for issues that seemingly defy comprehension. We are so close in so many ways and yet so different in many others. Americans from the south are more vulnerable than the Yankees as they have been more acquainted with Canadian ways. You notice this even between the south and the north in the USA, but everyone manages to overlook the differences and get along there (usually?). Now, send a 'good ole boy' from the south up to Canada and it could be tough on him.

 

You already discovered the 'beer issue' and if life becomes confusing over beer, imagine how complicated things can get here. Politics are perhaps the most sensitive issue, and George Bush has made it tough for a lot of Americans not to be painted with the same brush. We are pretty conservative with some things, and then pretty liberal with others, and pretty much passionate about them both, which is generally hard to understand whether you are a Republican or a Democrat. So in relation to politics if you say anything you probably 'can't win for losing' on that topic.

 

Then again the big city here (I live close to Milton) is not really representative of most of Canada. It is just not as friendly because of the multi-ethnic nature of the region and the fact that there are so many people you just have to learn to almost ignore everyone. All the ethnic groups are friendly but the mix just tends to get difficult at times. There are not many places in the world like Toronto and we have not worked out all the issues yet. Nevertheless, it is a pretty neat place all things considered or compared to any big American city, so we really can't complain.

 

Much more could be said, but suffice it to say that it takes a bit of social preparation to get ready to come to Canada, about the same as going to a European city and if you are able to listen a lot, you can navigate the pitfalls. It is not the sweet hospitality of down south (other parts of Canada are just like the south), but it can warm up pretty good if you give it a chance. Americans kind of grow on us and most of us work with Americans on a daily basis (for better or for worst), but it just takes getting to know each other better in order to enjoy the differences, rather than chafe under them.

 

All in all, we are sorry your visit was not more hospitable, but we do hope you come on up again and maybe we can get to connect with some of the things we all do have in common.

 

Wishing you a Merry Christmas Fred!

 

Cecil

[Tnventurer]

Thanks ya ll ,that explains alot,and I didn't meen to be mean,just some observations....But MAN THE BEER WAS EXPENSIVE! An d the reason I didn't let anyone know was because i worked about 14hrs a day while I was there ,and i slept the rest...BUT NEXT TIME!......Fred:big-grin-emoticon:

[halfwitt]

I spent a lot of time in Toronto a few years ago. By a lot, in 2001 I spent 100 nights at the Bloor St. Mariott. About half of that for each of 2000 and 2002. One thing that really impressed me about our neighbors to the north is that they seem to know more about the US and US politics than most Americans do. The vast majority of people I met and worked with in Toronto were very nice and cordial. I struck up good conversation with complete stangers. I did meet a few less-than-desireables but I think there are probably more jerks per capita in some parts of the US than there were in Toronto.

 

That's my US$.02

[Keitho]

Hey Fred if you are ever in Milton again give us a shout and I will show you some good spots for a few ale, yes it is expensive but you don't have to drink as much as the American stuff, even though I am partial to a few Rolling Rock when I can get it.

 

Keith.

[Guest maddabber]

Darn The BEER is EXPENSIVE. And so is the GAS

[Marcarl]

It's no wonder you got us all ticked off, you come all that way and then don't tell any of the good folks that you're here. No wonder we sent the muskrats after ya. Next time let us know that you're coming and we'll have a real Meet & Greet in your honour, or honor.:happy65:

[Rip]

My experience as an American living in Canada has been anything but negative. General all around acceptance; very little U.S. bashing--although I hear it occasionally. I just laugh and tell them they should join the U.S. so they can vote for the government that influences their economic wellbeing. I have never been made to feel unwelcome.

 

I do not find Canadians any more different than Americans who come from different regions. We lived 18 years in Washington state, 8+ years in Texas, and now two in Ontario. Ontario is more like Washington than Texas is--hands down.

 

Set aside some obvious differences in political structure, money, and the sameness far outweighs the differences. Canadians are far more familiar with the states than Americans are of the provinces.

[Sailor]

Canadian beers, like Canadians, vary considerably from region to region. One thing about American beers is that most are like the proverbial "intercourse in a canoe":whistling:

[stardbog]

Hey Fred , Dont forget for canadians ...You are south of border....:rotf::rotf:

[Ozmonster]

Hey Fred

 

Sorry to hear that you did not have a truly enjoyable stay. You should have given us a heads up that you were in the area, I'm only 16 Kms north of Milton, and I would have set aside some time to meet up with you. I've been all over this country, from east to west, north, to southern borders, and the people vary greatly. What works in one area, can get you snubbed in others. I've also had many oportunities to work with Americans, both in the military and as a civilian, and have come across good and bad alike. I'm sure that in the future, you'll give us some notice, and some of the other venturers, and I can make sure you do have a much better time of it. As for the cost of the beer, all depends on the establishment you're at. If you can get signed in to a Legion, and don't mind the older crowd, the drinks are very reasonable, the "ripper joints" will cost you a fortune. The trick is, buy a case, start the party at home, hotel, then get a designated driver and take it on the road, that way you only have to buy a couple beers at the bars, to keep the buzz going. Take care, and don't let the bad experience put you off the rest of us, I'm sure if you're up for the rally in July, you'll get to see the other side of the scale.

 

Jim

[bongobobny]

As amazing as it sounds, I feel I have a lot more Venturerider friends in Ontario than I do in New York State! Of course they have more members from there anyway, just ask Marcarl!

 

Bottom line, people are people, regardless of what country they are from. You got your nice folks, and your not-so-nice folks...