KIC Posted March 19, 2012 #551 Posted March 19, 2012 C'mon Dan....PICTURES my Man...PICTURES....seeing is believing.... we need to know that it is reality being produced...not med invoked fantasy... P.S. Good luck on your project !
Redneck Posted March 19, 2012 #552 Posted March 19, 2012 C'mon Dan....PICTURES my Man...PICTURES....seeing is believing.... we need to know that it is reality being produced...not med invoked fantasy... P.S. Good luck on your project ! He still hasn't figured out that you can't put a poliroid pic in the floppy disc slot, He has first gens you can't expect too much.
Yammer Dan Posted March 19, 2012 Author #553 Posted March 19, 2012 I picked out a new camera today. Really liked it. Told them I wanted one.... "Sorry we only have the display left on that one!!" Scratched up and they wouldn't reduce. Oh well have I mentioned I HATE CAMERAS!! I got walls about 6 ft tall. Got doors today. Forgot lumber for headers for doors.
Yammer Dan Posted March 20, 2012 Author #554 Posted March 20, 2012 Here are the Freaking PICS!!! From this start this morning walls are about 6 ft high. He claims he will pour floor this week!!
Yammer Dan Posted March 20, 2012 Author #555 Posted March 20, 2012 That didn't hurt too bad!! Warden is a tough instructor. Make one little mistake and BAM!! My head hurts....
Yammer Dan Posted March 20, 2012 Author #556 Posted March 20, 2012 Just to prove I can do it again!! Anybody remember these?
Redneck Posted March 20, 2012 #557 Posted March 20, 2012 Here are the Freaking PICS!!! From this start this morning walls are about 6 ft high. He claims he will pour floor this week!!Well dip me in $hit and call me sugar bear. I'm not all that surprised to see the progress with the antique tomb but the fact the warden was able to train you to post pics is nothing short of amazing.:rotf::rotf:
Yammer Dan Posted March 20, 2012 Author #558 Posted March 20, 2012 Now another problem!! It never stops. I got Doors from Wayne Dalton. 8 ft doors. Yeah they are big enough for what I want. I can not find anywhere what size opening is needed in the block. Instructions are tuff on these things. (So you will get them to install at big bucks??) I can about figure out what to do but what size opening do I start with to frame up and put header?? DASMA.com Tech Data Sheet #161. Shows Jamb going flush with block edge. I'm not the smartest guy around but they got that info hid somewhere and I can't find it. I hate to pay to get these things hung. I need to know the width of the opening and height to place header.
KarlS Posted March 20, 2012 #559 Posted March 20, 2012 I can see it now, another 566 posts until the garage doors are hung.
Marcarl Posted March 20, 2012 #560 Posted March 20, 2012 Maybe this will help: http://www.carpentry-pro-framer.com/garage-door-framing.html
Yammer Dan Posted March 20, 2012 Author #561 Posted March 20, 2012 Thanks Carl. That is helpfull but I know how to hang one. Its that different brands of doors require different size opening because all hardware is not the same. And i can't find it anywhere in there. Wanted to make sure openings were right in the morning. Will be too late by noon walls are growing fast.
Marcarl Posted March 20, 2012 #562 Posted March 20, 2012 Thanks Carl. That is helpfull but I know how to hang one. Its that different brands of doors require different size opening because all hardware is not the same. And i can't find it anywhere in there. Wanted to make sure openings were right in the morning. Will be too late by noon walls are growing fast. Scroll down on the site, it will give you the opening size. It shows how many 2x6's thick you need to have on the sides as well as the headers. The door actually slides on the inside of the last 2x6 in the opening, so if the door is exactly 8' wide then the finished opening needs to be 3" smaller, 1 1/2" on either side. So you will need to have 3 uprights on either side the width of the block, so if the block is 8" then 3 2x8s, plus a 2x10 header, keeping in mind that you need a place to attached the spring for a door opener and a place for the hardware to attach to above the door itself. I hope I got this right.
Yammer Dan Posted March 20, 2012 Author #563 Posted March 20, 2012 Door fits against inside face of block. I think. It just doesn't give size opening needed. Frame is in pieces and it is hard to get a height for header to hang framework. I'm getting closer but I hate things where I can't see what I'm getting into.
Yammer Dan Posted March 20, 2012 Author #564 Posted March 20, 2012 Thats a Great site Carl. Lot of info to refresh memories.
Marcarl Posted March 20, 2012 #565 Posted March 20, 2012 Door fits against inside face of block. I think. It just doesn't give size opening needed. Frame is in pieces and it is hard to get a height for header to hang framework. I'm getting closer but I hate things where I can't see what I'm getting into. Nope Nope and Nope, door does not slide against inside of block, it slides against a piece of wood, 2x6, 2x8 or what ever size you use. You could just frame the inside of the door with one layer of 2x8 and then build a frame inside the door opening to 'hang' the door and hardware. Some picture of my garage door. 1) show headroom needed,,, mine is low rise so you need at least that much room 2) side framing, we used 2x4, but 2x6 is better for you need the width to fasten it to the block wall 3) show hardware at top corner 4) shows where the spring goes and you can see the amount of room needed for the spring to mount 5) another shot of the corner hardware. You could go with a one piece door but you kick your butt even with sore legs.
Yammer Dan Posted March 20, 2012 Author #566 Posted March 20, 2012 I'm in there so far. Got 2x6s to frame on inside of block. Thats what I ment just forgot to mention board that goes there first. I think I'm going to make header 2x8 just to make it fit block. 2x6 would leave hard to fill gap there. Not sure how to make header yet. Several different ways to go with that. My ceiling joists are going to have plenty of room to hang rails. Won't need low rider kit. But doors did not come with material to hang rails. Another 20 bucks per door. I really thought of building a two piece door ( like french doors) but didn't think it would hold up under time. I'm getting this!! Thanks for all the help!! Pouring end block at door sides full of concrete. Walls are over my head this morning!!
KIC Posted March 20, 2012 #567 Posted March 20, 2012 Keep going Dan ! We are cheering for ya ! Ya gotta love that 1st Gen spirit...
Yammer Dan Posted March 20, 2012 Author #568 Posted March 20, 2012 Bummer!! I looked over doors and their instructions look to be a challenge. So I called my friendly blood sucking Lowes and they only want 300 bucks each to install them!!! Trying to save where I can on this thing and that just sounds Crazy to me. With my Vets discount I only paid 294 for both doors!! i thought it was great price for insulated doors but I see where they make it up. If I can tear a 1st Gen apart I can do these things. Got 90 page instructions with them. 1/2 of that is in that other language. Maybe those are more understandable??
Flyinfool Posted March 20, 2012 #569 Posted March 20, 2012 Gee maybe you should set up a web cam so that we can watch it go up in real time. Oh wait, you have issues just posting pics, never mind.....
Guest Posted March 20, 2012 #570 Posted March 20, 2012 Gee maybe you should set up a web cam so that we can watch it go up in real time. Oh wait, you have issues just posting pics, never mind..... Just what we need, another reality show!!! Lets see, what would be a good name for this one? Keeping up with the Yammers? Or maybe 1st Genners Gone Wild? I can see it now......piles of blocks and insulated doors are added to the pile of 1st gens scattered about. But there is a deep dark secret. One day that pile of rubble will be cleared off and the past remains of missing contractors will be found.
Yammer Dan Posted March 20, 2012 Author #571 Posted March 20, 2012 Just what we need, another reality show!!! Lets see, what would be a good name for this one? Keeping up with the Yammers? Or maybe 1st Genners Gone Wild? I can see it now......piles of blocks and insulated doors are added to the pile of 1st gens scattered about. But there is a deep dark secret. One day that pile of rubble will be cleared off and the past remains of missing contractors will be found. Don't spread that around!! by the time rubble is cleared away they will be fertilizer.
Keemez Posted March 20, 2012 #573 Posted March 20, 2012 Is that your own personal railroad on the left in that last set of pics? Just build a ramp up into one of the boxcars and use that as your garage!
Flyinfool Posted March 20, 2012 #574 Posted March 20, 2012 I dunt know. It sure looks small. Maybe you should rethink the size again..........
Yammer Dan Posted March 20, 2012 Author #575 Posted March 20, 2012 50' long and it takes 3&1/2 ft for a 1st gen... sideways. It might be kind of tight!!!
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