Tire Confusion - YATT

[rumboogy]

YATT - Yet Another Tire Thread

 

OK...really this one isn't about which is best.

 

I'm getting ready for a trip to South Dakota and am shopping for new tires. I have a small cut in my front tire (very small) and was going to replace it anyway, but yesterday I got a flat on the back of my Dunlop Elite 3 tire.

 

So this next go around I have decided I am going to buy some of the Avon Venom tires. But the problem lies in shopping at the various vendors...NO ONE has the same catalog numbers and even searching the manufacturers number will not find the tires.

 

I have a 2009 RSV-s. I want to replace both the front and back on the bike.

 

I have checked the following sites:

 

Dennis Kirk - Found some Venoms once...then nothing now.

Jake Wilson - manufacturer catalog number does not work.

Southwest Moto - Not sure if these are the right ones.

 

Dang CONFUSING is what it is....

 

OK...at SWmoto tires is this the correct rear tire?

http://www.swmototires.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=568&category_id=94&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53

And this the front tire:

http://www.swmototires.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=555&category_id=94&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53

 

These are cheaper at Jake Wilson and Dennis Kirk...but GEESH.

 

If anyone could provide the exact catalog numbers (or links) to both the FRONT and REAR tires for the AVON VENOMS from Dennis Kirk and Jake Wilson...I would appreciate it.

 

Also...should I also get new valve stems?

[Freebird]

Just go to Jake Wilson and to the Avon Venom page. Then select your bike and model from the drop down menu and it shows you which tires you need. It will list TWO for the back, go with the 80H series. It has a higher load rating.

[rumboogy]

Thanks Don....

 

I never even saw the drop down list at the top...

 

Here is what I come up with...

 

REAR TIRE:

http://www.jakewilson.com/productDetail.do;jsessionid=BFD7EA8E40F209CFE8832D698BDDCC4D?navType=type&navTitle=Motorcycle+Tires&webTypeId=443&webCatId=57&stockId=185330&prodFamilyId=22958

 

FRONT TIRE:

http://www.jakewilson.com/productDetail.do;jsessionid=BFD7EA8E40F209CFE8832D698BDDCC4D?navType=type&navTitle=Motorcycle+Tires&webTypeId=443&webCatId=57&stockId=185245&prodFamilyId=22949

 

Do most people change out their valve stems?

[wes0778]

 

Looking for an Elite 3 front tire. Motorcycle Super Store only lists a MT90HB-16, on sale for $112.99. Is that the same size as the "150" needed for my RSV?

 

To add to the confusion, Dennis Kirk offers a 150/80H-16 ($111.19) AND a MT90HB-16 ($103.99)

One has an aspect ratio of 80 and the other 90.

Edited June 12, 2011 by wes0778

[Squidley]

Do most people change out their valve stems?

 

I never do unless there is a problem detected. The hard stem valves will last forever.

[Bubber]

Thanks Don....

 

I never even saw the drop down list at the top...

 

Here is what I come up with...

 

REAR TIRE:

http://www.jakewilson.com/productDetail.do;jsessionid=BFD7EA8E40F209CFE8832D698BDDCC4D?navType=type&navTitle=Motorcycle+Tires&webTypeId=443&webCatId=57&stockId=185330&prodFamilyId=22958

 

FRONT TIRE:

http://www.jakewilson.com/productDetail.do;jsessionid=BFD7EA8E40F209CFE8832D698BDDCC4D?navType=type&navTitle=Motorcycle+Tires&webTypeId=443&webCatId=57&stockId=185245&prodFamilyId=22949

 

Do most people change out their valve stems?

 

 

The only thing with Dennis Kirk they may be a couple of years old according to the date code. Ask Jake Wilson what the date codes are before you buy them. they are probably more recent than Kirk. And no I didn't change out the stems.

[rumboogy]

So Bubber...were those the right tires though?

 

Wally

[flb_78]

 

Looking for an Elite 3 front tire. Motorcycle Super Store only lists a MT90HB-16, on sale for $112.99. Is that the same size as the "150" needed for my RSV?

 

To add to the confusion, Dennis Kirk offers a 150/80H-16 ($111.19) AND a MT90HB-16 ($103.99)

One has an aspect ratio of 80 and the other 90.

 

MT is a 130mm tire, not a 150.

[V7Goose]

Thanks Don....

 

I never even saw the drop down list at the top...

 

Here is what I come up with...

 

REAR TIRE:

http://www.jakewilson.com/productDetail.do;jsessionid=BFD7EA8E40F209CFE8832D698BDDCC4D?navType=type&navTitle=Motorcycle+Tires&webTypeId=443&webCatId=57&stockId=185330&prodFamilyId=22958

 

FRONT TIRE:

http://www.jakewilson.com/productDetail.do;jsessionid=BFD7EA8E40F209CFE8832D698BDDCC4D?navType=type&navTitle=Motorcycle+Tires&webTypeId=443&webCatId=57&stockId=185245&prodFamilyId=22949

 

Do most people change out their valve stems?

Yes, those are the correct Avon tires for the RSV - AM41 front and AM42 rear in stock sizes.

 

And no, I have never changed out a valve stem on an RSV, not on my own bikes in 120,000 miles, and not on the 30-50 others on which I have changed tires.

Goose

[Guest]

http://www.compacc.com/p/Avon-Venom-AM41-Bias-Touring-Cruising-Tires-Front

 

I have been buying my tires here for the past several sets and im happy with their customer service. And as far as the valve stem goes, yes, after 10 years the rear valve finally started seeping where it contacts the wheel hole. Sometimes they do need to be changed. I also angled the stems to face the right side of the bike so its not angled down like it is on the left side. I also have slightly angled one on the front wheel facing the right side.

[V7Goose]

And as far as the valve stem goes, yes, after 10 years the rear valve finally started seeping where it contacts the wheel hole. Sometimes they do need to be changed.

I agree, sometimes they do need to be changed - I just ain't never found that time yet.

Goose

[flb_78]

Angled to the right? Isn't the brake rotor in the way then?

[OldBear]

+1 on Competition Accessories. Go to their website and you should be ok. IF you have any questions, I've always found 'em VERY helpful on the phone, and items I've ordered have always been shipped very quickly. I like the angled valve stems too, makes life a lot easier....

[exrsa1]

The only thing with Dennis Kirk they may be a couple of years old according to the date code. Ask Jake Wilson what the date codes are before you buy them. they are probably more recent than Kirk. And no I didn't change out the stems.

 

I bought my front Elite 3 from Jake Wilson, and it turned out to be 3.5 years old. In talking to their customer service people, they explained that the manufacturer have assured them there are no issues with tires that old, if kept in a climate controlled warehouse, which they have. I was not very comfortable with that, but talked to my tire guy and decided to install it, but we realized that the beads of the tire were within an inch of each other, and getting to set that bead was going to be a problem. To make a long story endless... We got it on finally, but took some "engineering". So far I have about 1000 miles on it and no issues. It made a big difference from the original Bridgestone. I'll be putting on about 2000 miles in the next two weeks, and hopefully will see no ill effects due to the age of the tire.

 

Brian

Edited June 13, 2011 by exrsa1

[Chinto]

The only thing with Dennis Kirk they may be a couple of years old according to the date code. Ask Jake Wilson what the date codes are before you buy them. they are probably more recent than Kirk. And no I didn't change out the stems.

 

My history with Dennis Kirk for tires has been great. Bought my E3's from Dennis Kirk this past September 2010 and the date code show them to be manufactured in March of 2010.

 

The previous set of tires for my RSV, which were 404's, were date coded 8 months prior to my receiving them.

 

It is definitely good advice to check the date code of your tires because as they say your results may vary.