E-Fishin-C Posted November 25, 2007 Share #1 Posted November 25, 2007 As of January 31, 2008, if you travel to the U.S. by land or water, a U.S. law will require you to present: a government-issued photo ID, such as a driver's licence; AND a birth certificate or a citizenship card; OR For youth under 16, a birth certificate; OR A valid passport.Canadian citizens flying to or through the U.S. must present a valid Canadian passport. Canadians will also be able to enter the United States by land or water with a NEXUS or Free and Secure Trade (FAST) card. The Government of Canada will keep Canadians informed as the U.S. makes further changes to its entry requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squidley Posted November 25, 2007 Share #2 Posted November 25, 2007 Just making it harder and more of an aggrivation to cross over. I have to believe their thinking is by making it harder, less folks are going to cross in either direction.....but not this kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilot Posted November 25, 2007 Share #3 Posted November 25, 2007 Our tax money at work!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just makes it harder for honest people to move around, it won't put a dent in the dishonest ones movements. They don't play by the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneck Posted November 25, 2007 Share #4 Posted November 25, 2007 I really don't see what the problem is. Is it really too much to ask for citizens of foreign country's to be able to identify themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mraf Posted November 25, 2007 Share #5 Posted November 25, 2007 I really don't see what the problem is. Is it really too much to ask for citizens of foreign country's to be able to identify themselves? Si. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Posted November 25, 2007 Share #6 Posted November 25, 2007 I really don't see what the problem is. Is it really too much to ask for citizens of foreign country's to be able to identify themselves? As I currently understand it, the rules dreamed up by the Feds, should apply to citizens of both countries crossing the border. Including the proposed high tech drvers licence, with the passport info imbedded in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hank Posted November 25, 2007 Share #7 Posted November 25, 2007 As I currently understand it, the rules dreamed up by the Feds, should apply to citizens of both countries crossing the border. Including the proposed high tech drvers licence, with the passport info imbedded in them. National ID with a common machine-readable technology, with defined minimum data elements with the possiblity to store 58,000 pages of text. God Bless America (I mean the USA) others don't count! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvrT Posted November 25, 2007 Share #8 Posted November 25, 2007 Our tax money at work!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just makes it harder for honest people to move around, it won't put a dent in the dishonest ones movements. They don't play by the rules. Ditto That... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvrT Posted November 25, 2007 Share #9 Posted November 25, 2007 I really don't see what the problem is. Is it really too much to ask for citizens of foreign country's to be able to identify themselves? When you're "married" to someone, should you have to identify yourself? Frankly, why a driver's license and birth certificate is NOT sufficient identification between Canada and the USA escapes me. Why, when every piece of ID I have says without a shadow of a doubt that I am Canadian and I live in Canada, why should I be further doubted and forced to have yet another piece of ID to enter the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEER30 Posted November 25, 2007 Share #10 Posted November 25, 2007 Let's really blow their (US & Canadian customs) minds and hold the next International Rally right on the border crossing , being neither US nor Canadian citizens crosses the borders . :rotf: BEER30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipshot Posted November 25, 2007 Share #11 Posted November 25, 2007 and here, all this time, i thought the govt. had it all figured out!!! they "give every one a NUMBER on a card!(hitler tatooed it on your wrist)! you cannot accomplish any kind of transaction, with out tour S.S. card!(not to be confused with hitler's storm troopers, which were called the S.S.) i personally think, that border crossings, between the u s , and canada, should remain open! if a terrorist wants to come into either country, a passport is NOT going to be high on their list of "things to procure"!!!!! now , the mexican border, is a whole different scenario! it should be closed and LOCKED DOWN!!!! just jt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86er Posted November 25, 2007 Share #12 Posted November 25, 2007 I think we just need to annex Canada and make it the 51st state! Then we can close down all the borders so that only the terrorists will be able to get in! :stirthepot: And we can take the picture of the Queen off the money! (What's up with that anyway???) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyHorse Posted November 25, 2007 Share #13 Posted November 25, 2007 I think we just need to annex Canada and make it the 51st state! Then we can close down all the borders so that only the terrorists will be able to get in! :stirthepot: And we can take the picture of the Queen off the money! (What's up with that anyway???) Just got back from Canada. I forgot how much alike the two countries are except maybe Quebec haven't been there. Gotta say I really like Canada havent been there in about 15 years. Except for taxes boy I don't know how you Canadians do it. Everything costs a bundle. I got tired of eating out dropping a boat load of cash to feed a family of 4. Alcohol, gas, etc. Our dollar is now worth less then yours. I like the country but man it expensive. Crossing into Canada not a problem didnt even show an ID. Couple questions and was gone. Coming back to US few more questions my drivers license, my wifes DL and kids birth certificates that was it. Not to bad. But like whoever said New Years I guess US will need passports and ID. I dont really have a problem with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneck Posted November 25, 2007 Share #14 Posted November 25, 2007 When you're "married" to someone, should you have to identify yourself? Frankly, why a driver's license and birth certificate is NOT sufficient identification between Canada and the USA escapes me. Why, when every piece of ID I have says without a shadow of a doubt that I am Canadian and I live in Canada, why should I be further doubted and forced to have yet another piece of ID to enter the USA.I can make you a drivers license and birth certificates on this computer. We have tens of thousands of illegals here with fake documents this is an attempt to verify that your documents are legitimate. I have no problem with canadians or mexicans or any others coming into the u.s but I do expect our government to do the best job they can to keep terrorists and criminals out and make sure visitors leave. I don't believe a passport is too much to ask most other country's require it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarges46 Posted November 25, 2007 Share #15 Posted November 25, 2007 I'm with you Redneck. The only thing I would like to see is a 10 year passport for us like you have. Particularly for adults past a certain age. We dont change that much. Its hard to have a friendly border....criminals cross from both sides at will. We have been spoiled for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Ghost Posted November 25, 2007 Share #16 Posted November 25, 2007 We simply must control our borders, especially against those crafty Canadians. I have heard that they have a plot to enslave innocent US citizens through addiction to that awful drug - Canadian beer. All of us need to be vigilant and do our very best to destroy all stocks of this "beer" before it can further harm our peaceful society:stirthepot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipshot Posted November 25, 2007 Share #17 Posted November 25, 2007 I can make you a drivers license and birth certificates on this computer. We have tens of thousands of illegals here with fake documents this is an attempt to verify that your documents are legitimate. I have no problem with canadians or mexicans or any others coming into the u.s but I do expect our government to do the best job they can to keep terrorists and criminals out and make sure visitors leave. I don't believe a passport is too much to ask most other country's require it . mike , i totally agree with all you have said! if you travel "out of our country", you MUST show a passport, wherever your destination takes you. we should be just as "courteous" as the rest of the free world! just jt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Ghost Posted November 25, 2007 Share #18 Posted November 25, 2007 if you travel "out of our country", you MUST show a passport, wherever your destination takes you...just jt I have travelled to Germany (even East Germany years ago), France, Belgium, Lichtenstein, Switzerland, Netherlands, England, Ireland, Kuwait, and Iraq without showing a passport. Heck going into that last one they even made sure I had a weapon AND ammo on the plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipshot Posted November 26, 2007 Share #19 Posted November 26, 2007 I have travelled to Germany (even East Germany years ago), France, Belgium, Lichtenstein, Switzerland, Netherlands, England, Ireland, Kuwait, and Iraq without showing a passport. Heck going into that last one they even made sure I had a weapon AND ammo on the plane. shoot, cliff! a military "I.D." is a passport! lots of folks, wished that were not the case, back in the late '60s-early '70's! just jt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentleman George Posted November 26, 2007 Share #20 Posted November 26, 2007 As of January 31, 2008, if you travel to the U.S. by land or water, a U.S. law will require you to present: a government-issued photo ID, such as a driver's licence; :rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf:Let's see it Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAINEAC Posted November 26, 2007 Share #21 Posted November 26, 2007 Two of the 9/11 Terrorists came into the US from Woodstock, New Brunswick, Canada into Houlton, ME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Posted November 26, 2007 Share #22 Posted November 26, 2007 Two of the 9/11 Terrorists came into the US from Woodstock, New Brunswick, Canada into Houlton, ME. I wonder which border the terrorist came across, who blew up the building in Oklahoma City? Probably the Texas border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poledar Posted November 26, 2007 Share #23 Posted November 26, 2007 Between the IRS, the INS, the NSA, the FBI and all those other alphabet organizations, there is already too much invasion of privacy, and now the IIHS in conjunction with NHTSA are trying to ban sport bikes (see December 2007 American Motorcyclist) and to implement a mandatory helmet law. While I don't ride without a helmet, I don't want to be told I have to wear one. This country is heading more and more to an authoritarian state with the government telling us what we can and can't do, what we should and shouldh't want, etc ad infinitum. At this rate, organizations like Venture Rider will be outlawed in the future. We have to say no at some point and the more we give away to governmental control, the harder it will be if we wait much longer. And, yes this does include HILLARYCARE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvrT Posted November 26, 2007 Share #24 Posted November 26, 2007 I can make you a drivers license and birth certificates on this computer. We have tens of thousands of illegals here with fake documents this is an attempt to verify that your documents are legitimate. I have no problem with canadians or mexicans or any others coming into the u.s but I do expect our government to do the best job they can to keep terrorists and criminals out and make sure visitors leave. I don't believe a passport is too much to ask most other country's require it . ...and passports can't be fake??? if a D/L or a birth cert can be made up on a computer, what's to say a passport can't? Now, I'm not totally up on this subject so someone enlighten me please... Once it becomes mandatory for Canadians to have a passport to enter the US, will it also be mandatory for US residents to have a passport to enter Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragerman Posted November 26, 2007 Share #25 Posted November 26, 2007 We simply must control our borders, especially against those crafty Canadians. I have heard that they have a plot to enslave innocent US citizens through addiction to that awful drug - Canadian beer. All of us need to be vigilant and do our very best to destroy all stocks of this "beer" before it can further harm our peaceful society:stirthepot: I'll drink to that! It's a dirty job but someone's got to do it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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