flb_78 Posted March 21, 2011 #1 Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) Mr. Myers came to my rescue by fabbing up a seal driver for 43mm forks. This driver will be passed around to other members who want to work on 2nd gen forks. 1 side drives in the bushing and seal, the other side drives in the dust seal. Ruffy is first on the list. *edited for mor guder picshures. Edited March 21, 2011 by flb_78
skydoc_17 Posted March 21, 2011 #3 Posted March 21, 2011 Bob Myers is Da' MAN, when it comes to all things machined. I am Glad he was able to help you out. How did your rebuild turn out? Earl
flb_78 Posted March 21, 2011 Author #4 Posted March 21, 2011 I just put them together today and slapped them in the trees. Tomorrow I'll bolt all the tupperware back on and figure out where the wires aren't supposed to go.
straycatt Posted March 22, 2011 #5 Posted March 22, 2011 What a slick tool. In working on mine tonight I made pretty much the same thing out of a piece of 1 1/2" schedule 40 DWV PVC pipe but I have to use a hose clamp to tie mine to the inner slider. That one is waaayy better than mine.
Guest tx2sturgis Posted March 22, 2011 #6 Posted March 22, 2011 I wish you had made a series of photos showing how the tool works...for us dummies out here... It sure looks like a well made piece!
Steel Horse Cowboy Posted March 22, 2011 #7 Posted March 22, 2011 FLB_78 Glad to hear your are making progress on your scooter. Thats a fine job that Bob done on that tool too. You need to go back to your old picture. It scared me something terrible when I saw you looking at me from your avatar like that. :rotf: C.R.
Bob Myers Posted March 22, 2011 #8 Posted March 22, 2011 I wish you had made a series of photos showing how the tool works...for us dummies out here... It sure looks like a well made piece! It is a 2 piece slide hammer basically. I had not put the counterbore in the top side to drive the dust seal in, Forrest started to tap the seal in and held the tool up to bump it. He looked at the tool and at me and we both knew instantly what it needed to be a truly universal too. As Forrest and I discussed, who ever has it will pay shipping to send it to who ever needs it, just like the ride like a pro video. Using USPS flat rate most it should cost is around $6 or 7. Forrest, thanks for the good words.
Guest Posted March 22, 2011 #9 Posted March 22, 2011 Thanks Bob for all the work you put into making this nice piece!
Bob Myers Posted March 23, 2011 #10 Posted March 23, 2011 Do you have it already? Someone needs to start a thread on where it is needed next so we'll know where it was last.
Guest Posted March 24, 2011 #11 Posted March 24, 2011 Do you have it already? Someone needs to start a thread on where it is needed next so we'll know where it was last. No, I havent received it as of today, but I was going by the pics that are posted. It just looks like a nice piece of work. Cant wait to see it.
flb_78 Posted March 24, 2011 Author #12 Posted March 24, 2011 I sent it off yesterday. USPS small flat rate box, $5.20, better than $40+ for a motion pro tool
flb_78 Posted March 24, 2011 Author #13 Posted March 24, 2011 FLB_78 Glad to hear your are making progress on your scooter. Thats a fine job that Bob done on that tool too. You need to go back to your old picture. It scared me something terrible when I saw you looking at me from your avatar like that. :rotf: C.R. ah, it's not that bad is it? My mom told me it was cute.
Squidley Posted March 24, 2011 #14 Posted March 24, 2011 ah, it's not that bad is it? My mom told me it was cute. She was referring to when you were little...if there ever was a time in your life that you were
Flyinfool Posted March 24, 2011 #15 Posted March 24, 2011 Is this same tool appropriate for doing the seals on a 1st gen to?
straycatt Posted March 25, 2011 #16 Posted March 25, 2011 Not to take anything away from Bob's fab job, but this is what I used.... It's 1 1/2" schedule 40 DWV PVC pipe. I pulled the inner fork tube half way up its stroke and then hose clamped the split piece of pipe to the fork tube, using the tube as a slide hammer. You just have to be careful that the PVC doesn't slide on the tube and let the tube bottom out in the outer fork leg. Then when I felt that the bushing/seal was pretty much set, I used a long (long enough to extend above the fork tube) 2"x4" and tapped it a few time with a hammer to be sure. I know it's a cobble and nowhere near the professional tool that Bob made, but it's what I had on hand and it works very well as long as you're careful.
Guest Posted March 25, 2011 #17 Posted March 25, 2011 Received the tool today. Looks nice. Should be able to tear it down soon. Ill post when im finished and if anyone needs the tool next PM me and ill mail it to you. Thanks again....
RePeter Posted April 2, 2011 #18 Posted April 2, 2011 Well it looks like I may need the tool. I have my bike on the lift waiting for the valve adjustment tool and I see a spot on the floor below one of the forks. Fork is wet. Can anyone tell me the seals and/or bushing to order so that I am ready for the tear down? Thanks!
flb_78 Posted April 2, 2011 Author #19 Posted April 2, 2011 Ill make a parts list tomorrow for you. My satellite internet has been throttled back.
flb_78 Posted April 2, 2011 Author #20 Posted April 2, 2011 you should also think about changing out the springs with the Sonic Springs or Progressives.
flb_78 Posted April 2, 2011 Author #21 Posted April 2, 2011 2 - 4nk-23147-00-00 2 - 4nk-23157-00-00 2 - 4nk-23135-00-00 2 - 4nk-23144-00-00 2 - 4nk-23145-00-00 2 - 4nk-23146-00-00 2 - 4nk-23125-00-00 2 - 3ma-23129-10-00
straycatt Posted April 2, 2011 #22 Posted April 2, 2011 flb, What all did you replace? I changed the suggested upper and lower bushings, the copper crush washers on the damper rod bolts, and the oil seals. I didn't replace the dust seal because they rarely give problems, and I'm not counting the springs and spacers as "must replace" parts but they should be done as long as you're in to the forks. the parts for one side of the forks....
flb_78 Posted April 2, 2011 Author #23 Posted April 2, 2011 4nk-23147-00-00 - oring for the top of the tube 4nk-23157-00-00 - piston ring 4nk-23135-00-00 - metal slide 4nk-23144-00-00 - dust seal 4nk-23145-00-00 - oil seal 4nk-23146-00-00 - whoops, I didn't order this, it's the washer on top of the oil seal, I miscopied and pasted, not needed. 4nk-23125-00-00 - metal slide 3ma-23129-10-00 - crush washer
RePeter Posted April 3, 2011 #24 Posted April 3, 2011 Thank you both FLB and Straycat!! I had already guessed at the seals and ordered them along with my valve cover gaskets. I had missed a few though so I emailed and asked to add to the order. Now to search for some Progressive springs to go in there while I have them apart and wait til Ruffy is done with that deluxe tool
Bob Myers Posted April 5, 2011 #25 Posted April 5, 2011 I can see where this could lead to more tools for other projects too. Maybe someone could chat up Freebird and have a "loaner tool sub forum or sticky or whatever so tools needed can be acquired from those who have them. I 'spose one for 1st gen bikes would have a life here too? Straycatt: thats the way I used to do it too, works just dandy!
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