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I'm 6' 230 lbs. and according to the docs I should be 185lbs. When I graduated HS I was 192 lbs and wore 32 x 30 pants. Was so skinny in the legs that I had to wear plaid alot...

I personally feel best at 200-205 lbs and wear 34x30 pants.

sorry but sometimes the docs are full of it...

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I'm at my perfect weight (if I was 12ft Tall). Gained 85lbs before this last back surgery and don't seem to be able to drop any of it this time. Before first surgery gained 70lbs but lost it in less then a year. This surgery just didn't get me as mobile again like the first one did. Need warm weather so I can get outside. :backinmyday:

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Y'all are going to make me go to the doctor to get weighed.

 

There was a time in my life that the easiest places (and cheaper than an office visit) to weigh myself was either the loading dock pallet scale or the gorilla display at the zoo with the old "Compare your Weight to a Primate" scale. I was coming up fast on the Lowland Gorilla. 398 lbs.

 

I keep a pair of my 58 inch waist pants just as a reminder of how easy it was to get to that point. I understood the meaning of the word obese. I'm proud to be back in the 38's again.

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That weight might be OK for your frame or not but it mostly depends on how your doctor calculates obesity. Some doctors have been using a faulty method of calculation.

 

Here is a snippet from Wikipedia about the Body Mass Index often used by some, even doctors, to judge possible obesity:

 

BMI provided a simple numeric measure of a person's "fatness" or "thinness", allowing health professionals to discuss over- and under-weight problems more objectively with their patients. However, BMI has become controversial because many people, including physicians, have come to rely on its apparent numerical authority for medical diagnosis, but that was never the BMI's purpose; it is meant to be used as a simple means of classifying sedentary (physically inactive) individuals with an average body composition. For these individuals, the current value settings are as follows: a BMI of 20 to 25 may indicate optimal weight; a BMI lower than 20 suggests the person is underweight while a number above 25 may indicate the person is overweight; a person may have a BMI below 20 due to disease; a number above 30 suggests the person is obese (Al C) (over 40, morbidly obese).

For a given height, BMI is proportional to weight. However, for a given weight, BMI is inversely proportional to the square of the height. So, if all body dimensions double, and weight scales naturally with the cube of the height, then BMI doubles instead of remaining the same. This results in taller people having a reported BMI that is uncharacteristically high compared to their actual body fat levels. In comparison, the Ponderal index is based on this natural scaling of weight with the third power of the height. However, many taller people are not just "scaled up" short people, but tend to have narrower frames in proportion to their height. It has been suggested that instead of squaring the body height (as the BMI does) or cubing the body height (as the Ponderal index does), it would be more appropriate to use an exponent of between 2.3 and 2.7.

 

 

 

 

Whats a narrower frame or big boned? You see human skeletons they all look similiar in size except for height. You dont see one with extremely big bones or bird thin ones.

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Whats a narrower frame or big boned? You see human skeletons they all look similiar in size except for height. You dont see one with extremely big bones or bird thin ones.

 

now I'd like to know just how many skeletons you've examined that closely that you can make that statement....:witch_brew:

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I'm 6' 230 lbs. and according to the docs I should be 185lbs. When I graduated HS I was 192 lbs and wore 32 x 30 pants. Was so skinny in the legs that I had to wear plaid alot...

I personally feel best at 200-205 lbs and wear 34x30 pants.

sorry but sometimes the docs are full of it...

 

geeez ... 192lbs ... 32x30 pants and skinny legs???

 

dang what are mine then at 155lbs ... 33x32 pants.... toothpicks???? :rotf:(no answer necessary)

 

there's some conflicting thought in here about bone size/structure. The fact is, two people of the same height and weight can look totally different....one could look "skinny" and the other could not. The reason is bone size.

 

I am very small-boneD ... got it from my mother. That's why, at 155lbs, I don't see myself as being "skinny" but rather, slim or small-structured. Now, if I were to put on 30 or 40 lbs, it would make me look FAT. Yet there are millions of guys out there around 6 ft or a bit less, weighing just under 200lbs who don't look fat....because their bone size is larger. My son is 6' 2" and weighs 195. He has wider shoulders and a larger chest than me and his muscles look more like mine did when I was his age but when you compare his legs to mine or his hands to mine... there's not a lot of difference in size. What I see there is a mixture of smaller and larger bone structure.

 

When I was 35, I was at my peak of physical size and strength. I piled lumber in a sawmill. I ate at least 3 times more in a day than I do today, I had rock-hard muscles and a definate 6-pak, I worked out with a power bar every day, I was very physically active off the job ... trekked around the mountains regularly, skiid in the winter, played softball in the summer, hiking, etc, etc .... I weighed 165lbs then...the most I've ever weighed in my life.

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now I'd like to know just how many skeletons you've examined that closely that you can make that statement....:witch_brew:

Yea really, a doctor made a comment to me once about the big boned thing being a myth. Started looking into it a little bit. Skeletons dont really vary that much except for height.

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Yea really, a doctor made a comment to me once about the big boned thing being a myth. Started looking into it a little bit. Skeletons dont really vary that much except for height.
If you are still using that Dr. you really should consider getting a different one who is more knowledgeable about the Human body structure. If you care to look in daily life, you will see people who have very narrow wrists and people who have very thick wrists without being under weight or overweight. Wrists are generally an easy place to see bone structure as there is not much muscle in that area. Then of course there is the description that SilverT gave which is also quite noticeable.

 

:no-no-no: Not casting any stones here but some people hardly notice anything. :no-no-no:

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When I was in high school I was 6ft.1in.240 lbs and i had a 44 in. waist. I loast 60lbs. and then started to work out with weights. i;ve been doing it for 30 years. I'm presently 6ft.1in. and still 245 lbs but with a 36 in waist. My body fat index is a little over 10% which means that if I was to not have anybody fat what so ever I'd still weight around 215lbs.

 

Those BMI measurement are so out dated they should no longer be used.:thumbsup2:

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When I was in high school I was 6ft.1in.240 lbs and i had a 44 in. waist. I loast 60lbs. and then started to work out with weights. i;ve been doing it for 30 years. I'm presently 6ft.1in. and still 245 lbs but with a 36 in waist. My body fat index is a little over 10% which means that if I was to not have anybody fat what so ever I'd still weight around 215lbs.

 

Those BMI measurement are so out dated they should no longer be used.:thumbsup2:

 

 

 

Don't let anything stop you. You don't know how hard it is to get back there.

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And It's not limited to wrists either.

 

Although I only have a 30" inseam my upper body gives me fits when I buy shirts. Can't wear alot of em as the shirt tails are constantly pulling out. They just aren't long enough. My upper body is taller than most.

 

Wish the big man upstairs had devoted a coulple extra inches to my leggs.

 

Whew! I think I'm safe on that one...

 

My late Uncle "Heap" Gorba was 6'6' played football for USMC and had a barrel chest that was so big that when his 4 year old son got on his chest, his feet didn't touch the floor. My mom use to tell us he also went after the AWOL's and when they saw him they went along peacefully...

 

 

Seems we're all different..

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at 6' 7" and 250 I could loose 20 lbs. and feel better. When I went in the navy 42 years ago I was 6' 7" and 165 lbs. I had to run around in the shower to get wet.

The doc told me on my last visit I should be 185 ( Thats not going to happen )

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geeez ... 192lbs ... 32x30 pants and skinny legs???

 

dang what are mine then at 155lbs ... 33x32 pants.... toothpicks???? :rotf:(no answer necessary)

 

there's some conflicting thought in here about bone size/structure. The fact is, two people of the same height and weight can look totally different....one could look "skinny" and the other could not. The reason is bone size.

 

I am very small-boneD ... got it from my mother. That's why, at 155lbs, I don't see myself as being "skinny" but rather, slim or small-structured. Now, if I were to put on 30 or 40 lbs, it would make me look FAT. Yet there are millions of guys out there around 6 ft or a bit less, weighing just under 200lbs who don't look fat....because their bone size is larger. My son is 6' 2" and weighs 195. He has wider shoulders and a larger chest than me and his muscles look more like mine did when I was his age but when you compare his legs to mine or his hands to mine... there's not a lot of difference in size. What I see there is a mixture of smaller and larger bone structure.

 

When I was 35, I was at my peak of physical size and strength. I piled lumber in a sawmill. I ate at least 3 times more in a day than I do today, I had rock-hard muscles and a definate 6-pak, I worked out with a power bar every day, I was very physically active off the job ... trekked around the mountains regularly, skiid in the winter, played softball in the summer, hiking, etc, etc .... I weighed 165lbs then...the most I've ever weighed in my life.

 

If you are still using that Dr. you really should consider getting a different one who is more knowledgeable about the Human body structure. If you care to look in daily life, you will see people who have very narrow wrists and people who have very thick wrists without being under weight or overweight. Wrists are generally an easy place to see bone structure as there is not much muscle in that area. Then of course there is the description that SilverT gave which is also quite noticeable.

 

:no-no-no: Not casting any stones here but some people hardly notice anything. :no-no-no:

 

I think it s more a function of muscle mass, body fat, and metabolism to why people are the way the are then skeletal size.

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I'm 5-11 And 190# just few months ago my spear tire was showing up on scale 220#. That was enough. Back to Aikido practice, Hockey, and hot yoga make me lose 30#. And of course watch what and how much you are eating, and thats name of the game... Wish I have restriction on beer too... yeah right.... not gonna happen. :group cheers:

 

One of those gym fancy meters said I have 60% Muscle mass, 19% Fat and rest is Heineken

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