krispy Posted February 15, 2011 #1 Posted February 15, 2011 I just got my tach-gauge set-up from Ponch. Looks great, and looking forward to getting it installed. I'm thinking of making a change in it though. I looked at this digital voltmeter: http://www.digitalmeter.com/cgi-bin/...nfig=ent-datel I'd like to mount that where Ponch has the cruise button. My plan was to mount the cruise button somewhere else (in the dash, bottom edge of the dash, inner fairing, I'm not sure). I'd like to add the voltmeter to the gauge cluster, and I don't need to SEE the cruise button, just be able to reach it. Normally, I turn the cruise on when I start the bike, and not touch the button again. Only rarely do I turn it off, mostly when I'm riding in the dark and the cruise dash lights get a bit annoying. My question now is: Can that on-off switch be wired around and just let the cruise be on full time? The cruise control button on the handlebars does all the actual controlling of the cruise. I'm pretty sure my car and pickup cruise is on every time I start the vehicle, unless I choose to turn it off. Could the bike be the same way? The on-off switch is a bit more than on-off. 3 positions, off, on(to turn it on), and the central position that apparently doesn't turn it on, but keeps it on once it's been turned on. One possibily would be to find a simpler smaller switch that could be located mostly out of sight but within easy reach as you ride. Any thoughts, or outright know-how, on this idea?? Larry
dingy Posted February 15, 2011 #2 Posted February 15, 2011 Attached is a simplified version of only the RSV cruise related circuits. It may help you decide what you want to do. Gary
krispy Posted February 15, 2011 Author #3 Posted February 15, 2011 Gary: I've looked at the wiring diagram before, but I'm not sure what the deal is with that switch. The only reasons I can think of for that switch is to let the cruise relay be off when the bike is started, and as a safety factor, in case all other cruise shut-offs would fail somehow (can't imagine) you'd have a manual way to shut down the cruise. As far as during starting, it would seem that if the bike was running with the cruise switch on, and you killed the engine without shutting the main switch off, you could re-start the engine and the cruise would be on the whole time. Maybe that sort of thing is bad for the cruise control unit if the voltage drops during starting. I don't know....tomorrow Ishould get the fairing apart and maybe I can check a few of these things out.
dingy Posted February 15, 2011 #4 Posted February 15, 2011 From looking at the RSV owners manual, pages are attached below, it appears the switch powers the system up when pressed to the right. It appears that it then returns to center position, and maintains power to the system. When the switch is pressed to the right it powers down the system. In order to replace this switch, you probably would need two 'off the shelf' switches. switch. As I have said in the past, I don't have an RSV, so this is just by looking at the wiring diagram & owners manual. I could draw a diagram up to do this if you need it. Gary
mabeline Posted February 15, 2011 #5 Posted February 15, 2011 I don't know how the cruise switch is wired on the RSV, but would it be possible to use an off the shelf, 3 position , spring loaded togel switch?
Snaggletooth Posted February 15, 2011 #6 Posted February 15, 2011 The digital voltmeter you're looking at is a good one. I installed one in my '84 about 3 years ago. No problems with it at all. Mike
dingy Posted February 15, 2011 #7 Posted February 15, 2011 I don't know how the cruise switch is wired on the RSV, but would it be possible to use an off the shelf, 3 position , spring loaded togel switch? Possibly If left were open on all three contacts, center closed on two contacts and spring loaded right closed all three contacts. Gary
Dave77459 Posted February 15, 2011 #8 Posted February 15, 2011 There have been times when my cruise control got confused while engaged. I'd be cruising along, and it would disengage. RESUMEing did not work. The only way to get it to come back on was to turn the cruise off, forget about it for a while, then turn it back on. Bah. Anyways, something to think about. Note that the RSTD uses the on/off function where I think your 4-way flasher button is on the right handlebar. Perhaps you could relocate the cruise there (an RSTD cluster from a salvage yard?) and then you could relocate the 4-way somewhere else. Surely that is a simpler and less used button. Dave
krispy Posted February 15, 2011 Author #9 Posted February 15, 2011 I don't know how the cruise switch is wired on the RSV, but would it be possible to use an off the shelf, 3 position , spring loaded togel switch? I think this may be the simplest answer, unless I decide to do away with the switch entirely. I'm guessing I could find a switch that would do what's required--one that would just need a hole drilled thru the mounting surface and push thru from the back with a locking nut on the front.
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