Herb In Texas Posted January 3, 2011 #26 Posted January 3, 2011 I would think about a 1-3 yr old BMW r1200rt with low miles...they take a real depreciation hit early on....the R series is alot less complicated that the K series...k is water cooled and the engine is really buried...the R is oil cooled, a twin, and is alot easier to service....the riding position of both are very different than an RSV...the BMW's aren't great 2 up bikes.....the wing is a great bike, one ride will convince you....I can't get off the cash so I got an 06 rsv and really like it....good luck Well said. My advice would be to take your navigator with you when test riding. When we bought the wing after putting 80,000 miles on an RSV on our return from the dealership going home first "real" ride, 125 mile from dealer to home, Dawn was asleep with in 30 miles. The pasenger seat on the wing is like a Barka Lounger. The foot position took some getting used to for me, but a set of ergo pegs on the crashbars fixed that. My knees get a little wetter in the rain than they did on the RSV but all other areas of weather protection are comprable or superior. my feet never got hot on the wing even in 100 degree heat( in the standard position). Cant say that about the venture. hot feet is why I built my highway pegs. And on cool days the wing has foot warmers. No decernable benifit after about 30 deg. or less. I can not coment on the BMW as I have no experience with it. We did look at the Ultra and the Vision but the wing won out in handling and comfort. Audio system is premium not only in name but performance. Slow speed stop to stop manuvers are no problem, the wing can be turned around it the space of two standard parking spaces. Top heavy no. Out on the road the wing is quick and quiet If I ever get boxed in traffic or uncomfortable with my lane position we just disafreakinpear. The front end stuff folks talk about is in my opinion a non issue see the post in tech talk. Maintenace is easy for the most part. the air filter is a drag to get to but the induction system is designed to clean the air and reduce noise. so even trade if you ask me. My only complaint with the wing is the Nav system I use it but the Garmin I had on the Venture was better. No trafic alerts on the wing and the inputs are more difficult. not sure but I think they have addressed that on the later versions. Thats my 2 cents mabee Tom can shed a little more light but I don't think you will be disapointed.
PopKy Posted January 4, 2011 #27 Posted January 4, 2011 I made the mistake of sitting on a wing at FDR in Paducah a week or two back. The only thing I didn't like was the price tag. Well, I didn't mind but my bank account disagreed with me. Looks like I'll just keep putting the miles on the first gen for now. Before it's all said and done I'll have a GL1800. Hopefully in the pearl sunburst orange they had in '02
slickster Posted January 5, 2011 #28 Posted January 5, 2011 I have to say that after 3 long trips on my old 1500....4200mi, 3800mi, 2400mi...my new RSV is more comfortable for me and my wife....we can ride longer without getting stiff/sore the way we used to on the wing....it must be a combo of the seat and seating position....haven't ridden an 1800...I hear the test ride will make you sign papers....both have plenty of power and these days I like the 42mpg on regular....
Herb In Texas Posted January 5, 2011 #29 Posted January 5, 2011 Well Glen, balls in your court. sure am curious as to what you decided.
SMSgt Posted January 5, 2011 #30 Posted January 5, 2011 That's all it takes. Good luck in whatever you ride, just keep riding.
dray Posted January 8, 2011 #31 Posted January 8, 2011 That's all it takes. Good luck in whatever you ride, just keep riding. chump change. spread it around:mo money:
rickardracing Posted January 9, 2011 #32 Posted January 9, 2011 Well I just got back from the International Motorcycle Show in Novi. If I were in the market for a new bike......I would have to seriously concider the Kawasaki Vulcan 1700. It has evrything the Venture does and more at $2000 less. Ok, so it doe'nt have the awesome cassette deck. But it's VERY nice bike.
SMSgt Posted January 12, 2011 #33 Posted January 12, 2011 Well I just got back from the International Motorcycle Show in Novi. If I were in the market for a new bike......I would have to seriously concider the Kawasaki Vulcan 1700. It has evrything the Venture does and more at $2000 less. Ok, so it doe'nt have the awesome cassette deck. But it's VERY nice bike. I think that cassette deck is worth 2 grand that's why I used it for a wheel chock when I shortened my front forks. I see folks on ebay trying to sell them for 150.00 or so. I've got one I'd give away.
XV1100SE Posted January 12, 2011 #34 Posted January 12, 2011 Wait until the 2017's come out. ABS will be mandatory in Europe. Maybe they'll add a section preventing cassettes too !
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