Bubber Posted December 1, 2010 Share #1 Posted December 1, 2010 When ya trike a Venture do you use the swing arm? I was thinking of trying to find a way to install grease zerks in the swing arm so it doesn't have to be disassembled to grease the bearings. Does anyone have a 2nd gen rear swing arm that they would like to donate to the project. I would write an article and document the steps taken with pictures for our technical library. Any takers? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted December 1, 2010 Share #2 Posted December 1, 2010 Yep thats Silly!! No 2nd Gen parts around here!!! Really a good question. I think there was something on it a long time ago for 1st gens. About the same thing should apply??? I've decided just to do it when I change tires. I change back tires so often it get greased a LOT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubber Posted December 1, 2010 Author Share #3 Posted December 1, 2010 Dingy had a posting but it was about a 1st Gen. I guess you have to grease them so they don't rust sitting around the garage. LOL I sure would like to have a posting on the 2nd Gen for the same thing. Come on people whats up out there? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2010 Share #4 Posted December 1, 2010 Bubber, if I remember right about 6 years ago this was discussed. The inside of the swingarm near the bearings are open if I remember right, like a long tube. Some type of "wall" would need to be constructed in there to keep the grease in the general area of the bearing. To cut one open to install some type of barrier would compromise the integrity of the swingarm. If it could have been done im sure some genius would have come up with a plan long ago. I dont fall into that category. But if your game to try it you would probably need two swingarms, one to dissect and another to try it out on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Horse Cowboy Posted December 1, 2010 Share #5 Posted December 1, 2010 Drill a hole in the tube, thread it and put a grease zerk in it. You might have to pump in a cartridge or more of grease to fill it initially but once you filled it up from then on a couple pumps from a grease gun would supply new grease to the bearings. C.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2010 Share #6 Posted December 1, 2010 Drill a hole in the tube, thread it and put a grease zerk in it. You might have to pump in a cartridge or more of grease to fill it initially but once you filled it up from then on a couple pumps from a grease gun would supply new grease to the bearings. C.R. That was the problem that was discussed years ago. You would need a couple of tubes of grease to accomplish this. Once the bearings are properly serviced they should not really need any more attention. Unlike a wheel bearing, a swingarm bearing has a limited amount of travel, maybe an inch or so. A good lube like Honda Moly 60 should last a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummingbird Posted December 1, 2010 Share #7 Posted December 1, 2010 there's always http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/pinwall_cycle_parts/ as many bikes that they take apart, there ought to be plenty of swing arms around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Bob Posted December 1, 2010 Share #8 Posted December 1, 2010 Could you machine a lightweight plastic tube spacer to fill most of the open area? Later, Scooter Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongobobny Posted December 1, 2010 Share #9 Posted December 1, 2010 To answer your question about trikes, I don't remember there being one of them in the pile of extra parts I was given, so yes they do use the swing arm!! They just don't use the stock shock but instead use a pair of coil over shocks on the rear axle frame. The only thing the swing arm does now is allow the driveshaft to move up and down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj5ix Posted December 1, 2010 Share #10 Posted December 1, 2010 To answer your question about trikes, I don't remember there being one of them in the pile of extra parts I was given, so yes they do use the swing arm!! They just don't use the stock shock but instead use a pair of coil over shocks on the rear axle frame. The only thing the swing arm does now is allow the driveshaft to move up and down... The Hannigan kit removes the shock and replaces it with a solid bar to set the swing arm in a solid position so the swing arm doesn't move. As far as I know both known kits for triking use the swing arm. It is removed and not used on most of the Goldwing Trikes, and some Harlie's, but the Ventures retains it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubber Posted December 1, 2010 Author Share #11 Posted December 1, 2010 That explains why there are no voluteers to get rid of their swing arms for this experiment. The ones at Pinwall are cheap enough except for the shipping. Bubber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubber Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share #12 Posted December 2, 2010 So what I am hearing is: 1)this isn't worth doing 2) it can't be done 3) no swingarms laying around that at least can be evaluated for the addition of grease zerks???????? I am willing to try any (positive)suggestions here just need a little assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon_One Posted December 2, 2010 Share #13 Posted December 2, 2010 Hannigan trikes use the swing arms but remove the shock and install a stationary support in it's place. From then on the swing arm no longer moves as it's a rigid part of the frame now. On Tri-Wing kits they still utilize the swingarm and shock along with a set of Air-Lift air bags. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 2, 2010 Share #14 Posted December 2, 2010 So what I am hearing is: 1)this isn't worth doing 2) it can't be done 3) no swingarms laying around that at least can be evaluated for the addition of grease zerks???????? I am willing to try any (positive)suggestions here just need a little assistance. Do we need a hug????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubber Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share #15 Posted December 2, 2010 Do we need a hug????? Yes ! But not from You. I would like one from a nice female half my age that is :banana:....... well I digress. And by the way you started it. :moon: LOL Just a happy thought! I'll go lay down by my bowl now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomerCPO Posted December 2, 2010 Share #16 Posted December 2, 2010 Hey Bubber....Why dontcha come up with something everyone could really APPRECIATE onna Venture....A beer cooler with automatic feed to a drivers cup! Boomer....who sez when the wind is blowing just right he can smell Bubber's brain cells jest smokin away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Owl Posted December 2, 2010 Share #17 Posted December 2, 2010 Yes ! But not from You. I would like one from a nice female half my age that is :banana:....... Hummmmm, nice female... half your age.... Iff'n I remember correctly, someone here met a 80 year old gramma that was still riding... that should be about right for yah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubber Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share #18 Posted December 2, 2010 Hummmmm, nice female... half your age.... Iff'n I remember correctly, someone here met a 80 year old gramma that was still riding... that should be about right for yah... OLD,Black and Owlie Boomer....who sez when the wind is blowing just right he can smell Bubber's brain cells jest smokin away. Lo-ez-e-ann-er Pigmy Wrangler Arn't we getting way off the subject ...even for you MUTTS! :moon: Bubber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Bob Posted December 3, 2010 Share #19 Posted December 3, 2010 Arn't we getting way off the subject ...even for you MUTTS! :moon: Bubber Ya, Hey, but I think everyones havin' fun with it. am willing to try any (positive)suggestions here just need a little assistance. I offered the spacer tube idea to fill the gap, but now that I think about it, there's that big hole pointing back with the drive shaft in it also. Maybe have to glue in caps just past both bearings. I been :scratchchin:thinkin' 'bout takin' mine down fer that bearing job this winter too, now that I have heat in the shop. Let's keep in touch on this Bubber, Scooter Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted December 3, 2010 Share #20 Posted December 3, 2010 It is a good question and if a answer is found would probally apply to 1st and 2nd Gens. Would be one PIA out of the way when doing Maint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1joeranger Posted December 3, 2010 Share #21 Posted December 3, 2010 http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=43827 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummingbird Posted December 3, 2010 Share #22 Posted December 3, 2010 That explains why there are no voluteers to get rid of their swing arms for this experiment. The ones at Pinwall are cheap enough except for the shipping. Bubber Bubber - if'n you really want to do this - I only live a few miles from pinwall in Navarre Ohio and if you're going to md @ freebirds this year, tell them you have it picked up and I'll bring it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubber Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share #23 Posted December 3, 2010 Ya, Hey, but I think everyones havin' fun with it. I offered the spacer tube idea to fill the gap, but now that I think about it, there's that big hole pointing back with the drive shaft in it also. Maybe have to glue in caps just past both bearings. I been :scratchchin:thinkin' 'bout takin' mine down fer that bearing job this winter too, now that I have heat in the shop. Let's keep in touch on this Bubber, Scooter Bob That will work for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummingbird Posted December 3, 2010 Share #24 Posted December 3, 2010 Bubber - pm sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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