RSTDdog Posted August 24, 2010 #1 Posted August 24, 2010 Changing coolant tonight, reviewing the coolant change tips etc. (Thanks for those). Did the complete drain including water pump, but did not want to remove the exhaust, Just not a fan of that. So started looking at it and what I had in my tool box and Bam! Serpentine belt tool. If you happen to have the one I have, its a Lisle if I remember correctly, and it comes with a set of three different size very shallow sockets and the end of the socket has a hex that fits into the flat bar for the serpentine belt. And yes it fits in from the side without removing the exhaust. Total depth of everything is less than an inch. One caveat is my particular set only comes with an 18mm socket (3/4" equivalent). It is a six point and fits well enough to remove the drain bolt. If you have an older bike with some miles or the coolant has never been changed in years and you suspect the drain bolt might be stuck ( after all its a steel bolt into aluminum), This might not work.My bike at 4 1/2 ears old and 16,000 miles, the bolt broke loose easily. I'll check and see if Lisle has a 17mm that fits my Serpentine belt tool. The tool comes with a drive adapter too so I could grind down a 17 mm socket to get it shallow enough to work in the future. I'll try and post a picture tomorrow. Getting too late. Having said all that, when I saw what came out of the water pump drain bolt, even having the ability to remove it easily, I probably wouldn't bother pulling it again. But for those who like to get out every last drop, but don't want to pull the exhaust, here's one way to do it. RSTDdog
bmxndad Posted August 26, 2010 #2 Posted August 26, 2010 Another way is: I put my socket on the bolt and then clamped a vise grip on the socket to turn it. Worked good. If I remember right it was a bugger getting it started back in.
MiCarl Posted August 26, 2010 #3 Posted August 26, 2010 Another way is: I put my socket on the bolt and then clamped a vise grip on the socket to turn it. I think I've done that too. That might be why my 17mm socket looks like the rats been gnawing on it.
N3FOL Posted August 27, 2010 #4 Posted August 27, 2010 Changing coolant tonight, reviewing the coolant change tips etc. (Thanks for those). Did the complete drain including water pump, but did not want to remove the exhaust, Just not a fan of that. So started looking at it and what I had in my tool box and Bam! Serpentine belt tool. If you happen to have the one I have, its a Lisle if I remember correctly, and it comes with a set of three different size very shallow sockets and the end of the socket has a hex that fits into the flat bar for the serpentine belt. And yes it fits in from the side without removing the exhaust. Total depth of everything is less than an inch. One caveat is my particular set only comes with an 18mm socket (3/4" equivalent). It is a six point and fits well enough to remove the drain bolt. If you have an older bike with some miles or the coolant has never been changed in years and you suspect the drain bolt might be stuck ( after all its a steel bolt into aluminum), This might not work.My bike at 4 1/2 ears old and 16,000 miles, the bolt broke loose easily. I'll check and see if Lisle has a 17mm that fits my Serpentine belt tool. The tool comes with a drive adapter too so I could grind down a 17 mm socket to get it shallow enough to work in the future. I'll try and post a picture tomorrow. Getting too late. Having said all that, when I saw what came out of the water pump drain bolt, even having the ability to remove it easily, I probably wouldn't bother pulling it again. But for those who like to get out every last drop, but don't want to pull the exhaust, here's one way to do it. RSTDdog When you get a chance, please snap a pic of your special tool from Lisle. Thanks.
aharbi Posted August 27, 2010 #5 Posted August 27, 2010 RSTDog is this the tool? $87 bucks kinda steep for an every two years use tool. http://www.lislecorp.com/divisions/products/?product=528&division=1&category=6
KiteSquid Posted August 27, 2010 #6 Posted August 27, 2010 RSTDog is this the tool? $87 bucks kinda steep for an every two years use tool. http://www.lislecorp.com/divisions/products/?product=528&division=1&category=6 I would bet it is THIS one..... Similar but non-rattaching...... I found it for as low as $36 plus shipping.... on the Internet with a quick search, but you can probably buy it locally for less once you include shipping charges....
Chinto Posted August 27, 2010 #7 Posted August 27, 2010 Having said all that, when I saw what came out of the water pump drain bolt, even having the ability to remove it easily, I probably wouldn't bother pulling it again. But for those who like to get out every last drop, but don't want to pull the exhaust, here's one way to do it. RSTDdog So how much residual fluid remains if you don't open this drain? A shot glass? A cup? More? You suggest that it is hardly worth the effort, especially if you change the antifreeze on a regular 2 season schedule which means the fluid still looks clean. If we are showing only a shot glass worth then I would see no point either.
Condor Posted August 27, 2010 #8 Posted August 27, 2010 So how much residual fluid remains if you don't open this drain? A shot glass? A cup? More? . The answer is all of it. If it's like a 1stGen it's on the bottom of the water pump and where you drain the system. I generally let the engine run with it open and a hose stuck in the fill adjusted to match the amount draining out. Flushes out all the old stuff.
RSTDdog Posted August 28, 2010 Author #9 Posted August 28, 2010 I have had my belt tool for years Its the non ratcheting kind. Would not be worth buying even the cheaper one IMO just for this job. The amount that comes out is less than 4 ounces. Ill post apic when iget back from indy. Rode deals gap cherohola skyway and roads in between today . All I cansay is yeehaw gotta love that 3rd gear. Rstddog
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