MkII Dash

[Wizard765]

I have a friend that has no computer but does have an 86 VR. Anyhow he is having health issues and at the moment cannot ride. He is waiting for eye sugery. In the meantime we are trying to get his bike ready for when he is.

His Dash is toast. The speedo and Computer readout are not working at all.

Does anyone have a complete dash they are willing to part with for a MkII? If you do PM me with a price please.

 

Wayne

[Wizard765]

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[elag]

Not sure if MK1 will work or not. But I was at Zdeno cycle in Kitchener a couple of weeks ago and they had a complete 84 in their scrap yard. I got the front signal light from it so it's up for parts.

 

http://www.zdenocycle.ca/en/index.spy

 

Could also give this guy a call.

http://hamilton.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-motorcycles-motorcycle-parts-accessories-yamaha-venture-royal-parts-W0QQAdIdZ195694101

Edited August 7, 2010 by elag

[Condor]

I have a friend that has no computer but does have an 86 VR. Anyhow he is having health issues and at the moment cannot ride. He is waiting for eye sugery. In the meantime we are trying to get his bike ready for when he is.

His Dash is toast. The speedo and Computer readout are not working at all.

Does anyone have a complete dash they are willing to part with for a MkII? If you do PM me with a price please.

 

Wayne

 

Since the speedo is mechanical and the CMU is electrical I wonder if someone may have already been in there and failed to connect everything up?? Or the bike went for a swim... Anyway don't get talked into buying a MKI. MKII only.

[dingy]

Edit to this post.

 

Due to a wiring connector change the MKI dash does differ slightly from an MKII dash.

 

See post farher down for better description.

 

Gary

 

 

An MKI from a Royale should work if the existing unit is a Royale.

 

I don't think there are any differences.

 

The non Royale units have totally different cable connectors.

 

It is a Royale dash if it has the clock/timer display at the bottom.

 

First picture below is a standard unit. Second picture is rear of standard unit.

 

Third picture below is a Royale unit. Fourth picture is rear of Royale unit.

 

Gary

Edited August 6, 2010 by dingy
MKI is different.

[Condor]

An MKI from a Royale should work if the existing unit is a Royale.

 

Gary

 

Nope they won't. Totally different CMU cluster in the MKII's. I suppose one could adapt one to fit the other, but why try to re-invent the wheel? Get a MKII dash if needed and be done with it.....

[dingy]

Nope they won't. Totally different CMU cluster in the MKII's. I suppose one could adapt one to fit the other, but why try to re-invent the wheel? Get a MKII dash if needed and be done with it.....

Do you know what is different.

 

From the wiring diagrams, they look the same.

 

Below is a picture of a Royale cluster from the 83-85 service manual (supplement). Top caption says XVZ12DL.

 

Gary

 

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af193/gdingy101/MKIroyalecluster.jpg

[6m459]

I think your first picture is of an '83 dash.

 

My standard '84's both have the clock at the bottom as per your third pic.

 

Brian H.

 

 

 

An MKI from a Royale should work if the existing unit is a Royale.

 

I don't think there are any differences.

 

The non Royale units have totally different cable connectors.

 

It is a Royale dash if it has the clock/timer display at the bottom.

 

First picture below is a standard unit. Second picture is rear of standard unit.

 

Third picture below is a Royale unit. Fourth picture is rear of Royale unit.

 

Gary

[dingy]

I think your first picture is of an '83 dash.

 

My standard '84's both have the clock at the bottom as per your third pic.

 

Brian H.

 

 

First picture is an 83 dash.

 

Below is a picture of an 89 standard model cluster. XVZ13U model. The XVZ13DU had the upgraded royale cluster. There are different markings on the face of the tach and speedo on the MKII's, also the MKI's had the cruise light in the face of the tach. That may be the only difference.

 

Gary

 

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af193/gdingy101/120509024.jpg

[dingy]

I do see the difference in the wiring now.

 

Due to the cruise light there is a six pin connector (5 used) to the cluster lights on the MKI's

 

On the MKII's this is a 4 pin connector, since the cruise light was omitted.

 

My bad.

 

Gary

[Condor]

Do you know what is different.

 

From the wiring diagrams, they look the same.

 

Below is a picture of a Royale cluster from the 83-85 service manual (supplement). Top caption says XVZ12DL.

 

Gary

 

 

The '83 does not have the dimmer and the gear indicator. The '84 and '85 have Venture Cruise in green lettering on the tach. I don't know if they will work or not, but there is a cosmetic difference, and there might be a compatability issue.. different plugs etc.. Besides there are far more used MKII dashes available. Have you successfully put an '83 dash in a MKII bike? Or an '84-'85 dash, where you can definitely state that it will be a plug'n'play?? Like I previously stated, get a MKII (86-93) if needed.

[dingy]

Have you successfully put an '83 dash in a MKII bike? Or an '84-'85 dash, where you can definitely state that it will be a plug'n'play?? Like I previously stated, get a MKII (86-93) if needed.

 

 

No, I have not completely interchanged dashes.

 

On my 83, when I put the 88 wiring harness in, I used an 88 dash. I did swap out the speedometer head & tach in order to maintain the correct mileage on the bike. I did the tach due to the markings on the face are different from MKI to MKII's. But I did use the 88 CMU.

 

I have had an 84 wiring harness, which did have the correct CMU connectors for the Royale dash. This is what leads me to believe that the CMU units from an MKI are the same as an MKII.

 

I looked in the parts fiche and it only lists part numbers for the Royale dash, I do not see listings for the standard dash in order to compare to an MKI. I specifically looked in the 88/89 version as I am almost certain was offered with the standard or Royale dashes. I do not see in the fiches where a standard part can be ordered in lieu of an upgraded part.

 

I am almost certain that there were MKII's in 88 & 89 that had the standard dash in them. This was the model XVZ13D. The XVZ13DU had the Royale dashes in them.

 

I am not aware of any 83 dashes that were the Royale version.

 

84 & 85 models were XVZ12L, standard dash and the XVZ12DL which had the Royale dash.

 

86 & 87 only show the Royale model XVZ13DS, which all had the Royale dashes.

 

90-93 models were only the Royale version, model XVZ13DA.

 

All of the above models are a result of what I learned when I did the wiring schematics, which may be wrong. I did do a version of the schematic for an 83 showing a Royale dash, which I now know was not a stock production model. At the time , I thought the XVZ12DTK model had the Royale dash. The XVZ12K was the stock model.

 

Due to finding the wiring connector difference I noted in a previous post, you are correct saying that an MKI Royale dash will not be plug-n-play in an MKII bike. It would at a minimum,require swapping out the wires in the plastic connector on the MKI dash head to the one in the old MKII dash head.

 

You are also correct that there are many more MKII dashes available, might as well get the one that will fit right in.

 

Gary