to those on facebook

[Guest tx2sturgis]

If you are worried about your privacy on facebook or any other social connection website, You're doing it wrong.

 

 

You got that right. But, people are trusting. We get complacent about websites, assuming they will keep our details private. Apparently, it aint so. The bad thing about facebook, for me, is that they REQUIRE you to use your REAL NAME...yet they pass along your information to advertisers all over the web without telling you who THEY are. Once your webrowser has the facebook cookies in it, then any and all of their advertising partners know your name and where your surfing....so in effect they are keeping secrets from YOU, yet they require honesty from you?

Edited May 25, 2010 by tx2sturgis

[Jerry W]

How many folks have their personal information in their profiles on this site? I don't see alot of difference. How many threads actually have anything to do with motorcycles?

[FreezyRider]

Well, the simple facts are these....

Even if you have no social connections on the Internet, I know how to find just about ANY information about you that I could ever need.

Want me to email your Name, Address, and a map to your house to you?

Want me to email your SSN to you? Along with your income? All I have to be willing to do is spend a rather small amount of money and I can find that information in less than 24 hours.

 

Let's face it folks, there is NO such thing as privacy anymore.

[Guest tx2sturgis]

How many folks have their personal information in their profiles on this site? I don't see alot of difference. How many threads actually have anything to do with motorcycles?

 

Well, it was a thread of interest to facebook users..Don has never refered to his members as 'dumb f**ks" or sold out the members list to the advertisers on here, nor has he ever (to my knowledge) passed along your locations, phone numbers, and other personal info to those advertisers, or partnered up with them so those websites read the 'cookies' on your hard drive so that ABC News, Coca-Cola, and General Mills know your name, gender, and home address, and that you are a user of this website. Sure this website has a 'friends' feature, but I dont use it. Its not an integral part of how this site works, and neither Don nor the software 'recommends' friends u should have based on other common friends.

 

Topping it all off, this is a type of social website, but not a wellknown one. You pretty much have to have heard of or owned the Yamaha Royal Stars to even BE here. This probably limits its global appeal to something a lot less than the 400 million or so on facebook. So yeah, there is a LOT of difference.

 

I like to mention this stuff you know? Every single one of the members here used a computer to get here...can we say the same thing of threads about car problems, new house purchases, or someone's latest aquarium fish?

 

And besides, just how many threads do we need regarding passing lights, rear shocks, and the size of our tanks? A couple hundred should be enough.

 

I thought this subject was 'topical'...like the gulf oil spill or the state of the economy...so I brought it up, as others have done...we tend to mention whats on our minds, and share ideas with others here.

 

my 2 cents.

 

[LilBeaver]

Well, it was a thread of interest to facebook users..Don has never refered to his members as 'dumb f**ks" or sold out the members list to the advertisers on here, nor has he ever (to my knowledge) passed along your locations, phone numbers, and other personal info to those advertisers, or partnered up with them so those websites read the 'cookies' on your hard drive so that ABC News, Coca-Cola, and General Mills know your name, gender, and home address, and that you are a user of this website. Sure this website has a 'friends' feature, but I dont use it. Its not an integral part of how this site works, and neither Don nor the software 'recommends' friends u should have based on other common friends.

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One major point (in my opinion) that really ought to be noted is that facebook only 'requires' a name and valid e-mail address to sign up. When they first started they required a full name and a valid e-mail address that was affiliated with a major university. That is, in setting up your facebook account, they validated the domain of the e-mail address with the appropriate university. Unfortunately, now they have it setup so all you need is a valid e-mail address. Thanks to that, any and everyone can sign up as whatever they feel like calling themselves. Back to the point, the people that put in their phone numbers, home addresses and additional personal information, need to accept the consequences to their actions. That is, there is an aspect of responsibility involved that I think is all too often overlooked.

Now, do I agree with names, e-mail addresses and other personal information being shared after the privacy agreement explicitly indicates that they will not, of course not. That is something that the company ought to be held accountable for. Like Joe said, if someone really wants to figure out where I live or whatever, it can be done.

 

As for releasing personal information on this board, I have taken precautions to never post my address in a public place, or any other 'personal information', etc etc. Now, I have purchased things from various members on here and I have PMed them my address and whatever, but I was willing to accept the risk in that transaction and trusted the person on the other end of the deal to respect my privacy. I also have my browser set to prompt me for when I want to store cookies in addition to clearing any saved cookies and temporary files every time I exit the browser.

 

I will reiterate, that for the folks on facebook (or any other social networking site, forum, web page, etc) that choose to not take advantage of the privacy options and still post their personal information all over the place - that is their own fault and, in my opinion, is a very irresponsible and stupid thing to do. IF the company or admins of the said site are the ones responsible for releasing information that was privilege to them due to the registration process or whatever, then that is a different story.

 

Just a few thoughts.

[Guest tx2sturgis]

Hmmm...maybe facebook heard all the complaints...

 

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnVaG2nOxXg]YouTube- Facebook's New Privacy Approach Shifts Control Back to User[/ame]

 

 

Edited May 27, 2010 by tx2sturgis

[LilBeaver]

Hmmm...maybe facebook heard all the complaints...

 

 

 

 

 

Sadly this lady is a little bit mis-informed. Disabling many of these things has been a part of the facebook privacy controls for a long time. Yes, they have been growing the number of options one had where you could almost individually choose which aspects of the stuff that you wanted to share or not. BUT, what IS true is that they started setting the default as 'share with everyone' so the user had to manually go in and disable the stuff that they did not want.

 

When it started there were 2 options. "Share with only friends", "Share within network". Also, she alluded to having to 'look at code' to determine your settings. I think that the options are pretty straight forward, it is a bunch of drop down menus...

 

But, whatever. I guess this is what the 'public' was pushing for, and I have no complaints about them making it easier to not share my [limited] information.

 

Thanks for the update Brian

[Guest tx2sturgis]

Sadly this lady is a little bit mis-informed.

 

 

 

 

Could be, but a friend on facebook told me that it IS simpler now to go in and manage all the privacy settings...

 

I dont know...just passing stuff along...as you said...sometimes the threads drop off into nothing with no closure.

 

[LilBeaver]

Could be, but a friend on facebook told me that it IS simpler now to go in and manage all the privacy settings...

 

I dont know...just passing stuff along...as you said...sometimes the threads drop off into nothing with no closure.

 

 

Well, from what I see - all that was changed is there is a page of icons to get to the privacy settings instead of a page of tabs. But they take you to the same place.

 

But, I suppose if people find it easier to realize what they are doing, then cool.

[Ndiaz]

I'm on Facebook, and use it often. The people in my motorcycle group (the "Between the Sheetz" Gang) all use FB for communicating with each other, posting pictures of rides and events, and talking about upcoming rides. We even have a Facebook page. Look it up.

 

Most of the writers of the commentary site, http://www.thetentacle.com , to which I contribute, also use Facebook to get together, exchange ideas, etc.

 

In this political year, most of the local and state candidates for office also have FB pages to announce events, proposed action, and so on. Very helpful for those of us who are politically active, particularly at the local level.

 

I have colleagues, old friends, and family members on FB as "friends". My wife has a bunch of relatives in Sweden, and we stay in touch that way also.

 

Facebook is a good thing, an excellent way to stay in touch. I can see why some are skeptical about it, and that's fine. I hate the phone, both calling and being called. FB is better than e-mail in many cases for me.

 

Nick Diaz

Middletown, MD

[LilBeaver]

Well, from what I see - all that was changed is there is a page of icons to get to the privacy settings instead of a page of tabs. But they take you to the same place.

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I realize this is old news and probably no one cares anymore, BUT, I figured I should update the information I gave here because it is now inaccurate. As of today, when I got on to facebook, the privacy settings ARE, in fact, much easier to set and are described very clearly.

 

So long as they actually abide by the policies and rules that are claimed by the settings the users choose, I think that this is definitely a user-friendly improvement for them.

 

Again, I am sort of under the impression that since this is buried now, no one really cares anymore but I figured I'd mention it anyway.

[hig4s]

I realize this is old news and probably no one cares anymore, BUT, I figured I should update the information I gave here because it is now inaccurate. As of today, when I got on to facebook, the privacy settings ARE, in fact, much easier to set and are described very clearly.

 

So long as they actually abide by the policies and rules that are claimed by the settings the users choose, I think that this is definitely a user-friendly improvement for them.

 

Again, I am sort of under the impression that since this is buried now, no one really cares anymore but I figured I'd mention it anyway.

 

I noticed that today too, but I don't really care as I only share info with my friends, and every friend I have on facebook is someone I actually know. I either knew them when I was in high school, in the Navy, me or my wife now work with them or their spouse, or they are a member of my family. When anyone I do not personally know sends me a friend request, I ignore it.

[LilBeaver]

I noticed that today too, but I don't really care as I only share info with my friends, and every friend I have on facebook is someone I actually know. I either knew them when I was in high school, in the Navy, me or my wife now work with them or their spouse, or they are a member of my family. When anyone I do not personally know sends me a friend request, I ignore it.

 

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!?!?!? Now there is a novel idea!

 

Yea, I'm the same way - with exception to 2 members from here that I have added and not met personally... But I have everything set to either 'do not share' or 'friends only' and post very limited information, at that.

 

[Guest tx2sturgis]

Ok...Facebook thinks they own the word 'book'...suing small startups for using that word in association with a social networking site. What a load of CRAP.

 

You dont see Wal-Mart suing KMart, or Walgreens....

 

 

Zuckerburg is a jerk.

 

 

 

 

http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/26/technology/teachbook/index.htm

 

 

http://www.teachbook.com/

 

Edited September 6, 2010 by tx2sturgis

[CrazyHorse]

I find that stuff a waste of time. People are now getting fired for the facebook postings.

[craigatcsi]

If you think your personal information is private, I think you are being nieeve. If someone works hard enough, they can find out just about anything about us. The key is to not put it out there to find easily.

 

On all sights, including this one, I never use my correct birthday. I also sometimes use variants in my name or how to spell it. It's kinda funny to see how much comes back in adds with the wrong info. sometimes I even recognize where the info originated from.

 

Craigr

[Rick Haywood]

Funny thing, in one of your links I see a link to another article about how to overcome your myspace addiction.

 

Rumor has it that FB is going to start charging a monthly fee for an account. If that happens, then I will agree with the founder's comment and they can shut my account down when I won't pay it.

 

 

 

Facebook is like anything else, you have to use some common sense when using it. Don't give out any personal info and you won't have trouble. Most people on here give out more info right here on this forum than facebook asks for.

 

ps facebook has no intention of charging a fee this is one of those email/internet hoaxs started by people just because they can. Check out Snopes.com and type in facebook charges and it will tell you about it.

[Rick Haywood]

I find that stuff a waste of time. People are now getting fired for the facebook postings.

 

What is the difference between facebook and posting here? I mean as a waste of time.

[flb_78]

Facebook can only give out the information one puts in it. Ive seen people's full names, addresses, phone numbers, kid's names, where the kids go to school, where they're going on vacation, and when they'll be gone.

 

But facebook is no more dangerous than myspace or any other social networking site or even a forum such as this. How many people have their addresses in their profile with their telephone numbers just on this board and the information here isn't restricted to only your "friends". Any member has access to that.

 

One has to be careful what information they divulge on the interwebs, sometimes it can come back to haunt you.

 

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs385.snc4/44791_150255928331601_100000415844787_357240_2337520_n.jpg

[dmoff1698]

I got a Facebook account over a year ago.

 

First thing I found out was just how booring my life is. I had very little to post. I have no intrest in what time you got up this morning or what you are eating for supper and don't see why you should care either.

 

I haven't been on FB for 6 months now.

 

On the other hand, my wife got herself an account and loves it. On it all the time. We haven't spoken in quite a while.

[Freebird]

How many people have their addresses in their profile with their telephone numbers just on this board and the information here isn't restricted to only your "friends". Any member has access to that.

 

This is not true. You CAN choose who sees your information here. Just click on UserCP and the Profile Privacy in the left menu there.

[flb_78]

This is not true. You CAN choose who sees your information here. Just click on UserCP and the Profile Privacy in the left menu there.

 

My apologies, I stand corrected. Another feature I was not aware of.

[Freebird]

No apology necessary. Such things help us all discover those types of features. To be honest, I THOUGHT it was there but had to look before I posted the response.

[Monty]

Ok...Facebook thinks they own the word 'book'...suing small startups for using that word in association with a social networking site. What a load of CRAP.

 

You dont see Wal-Mart suing KMart, or Walgreens....

 

 

Zuckerburg is a jerk.

 

 

I remember when Radio Shack sued Auto Shack, so they changed it to Auto Zone. That was in the late 80's I think.

[Jerry W]

Some motorcycle company even tried to patten the sound of their bike. Trying to think who that was.