tpalshadow Posted May 19, 2010 #1 Posted May 19, 2010 I am having trouble finding a thread on here (there probably is one and I apologize for not finding it). I am going on Sunday to look at an '88 Venture R that I would really like to buy. Are there any suggestions on what I should be looking for as far as trouble signs? I do like to tinker to a point, but want to be able to confidently ride the bike right away this summer. Thanks! Todd
MiCarl Posted May 19, 2010 #2 Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) Look carefully at the plastic for cracks or repairs. Check the tires and brake pads. Of course make sure it runs well, all the lights work. Should ride smoothly without any clunks, suspension shouldn't sag excessively etc. Hold the front brake and push down on the handlebars a few times, look for oily rings on the inner fork tubes (fork seals). Look for any oil or coolant leaks, check again after you ride. It has a CMS (systems status display), make sure that after it's self test all indicators go out except side stand (if down) and fuel level. If it's a Royale (I think maybe all 88 on are) check the CLASS (air suspension controller, only works with key in ACC position), the radio, CB and intercom work. A good trick is to look at the fluid color in the window of the clutch and front brake master cylinder. Anything lighter than honey colored indicates they've been maintained. Darker doesn't necessarily indicate a problem but brake fluid changes are often overlooked. If they've been kept up odds are the other stuff has too. Edited May 19, 2010 by MiCarl
Condor Posted May 20, 2010 #3 Posted May 20, 2010 Look carefully at the plastic for cracks or repairs. Check the tires and brake pads. Of course make sure it runs well, all the lights work. Should ride smoothly without any clunks, suspension shouldn't sag excessively etc. Hold the front brake and push down on the handlebars a few times, look for oily rings on the inner fork tubes (fork seals). Look for any oil or coolant leaks, check again after you ride. It has a CMS (systems status display), make sure that after it's self test all indicators go out except side stand (if down) and fuel level. If it's a Royale (I think maybe all 88 on are) check the CLASS (air suspension controller, only works with key in ACC position), the radio, CB and intercom work. A good trick is to look at the fluid color in the window of the clutch and front brake master cylinder. Anything lighter than honey colored indicates they've been maintained. Darker doesn't necessarily indicate a problem but brake fluid changes are often overlooked. If they've been kept up odds are the other stuff has too. plus let it sit and idle til warm and then check for smoke from the exhaust when you blip the throttle...
Bill W. Posted May 20, 2010 #4 Posted May 20, 2010 Pull the front brake on and rock the bike back and forth. Shouldn't be any play or movement in the steering head bearings. As said before, you can do this while you're checking the front forks for sagging/bottoming out/ oil leaks etc., etc.
tpalshadow Posted May 20, 2010 Author #5 Posted May 20, 2010 MiCarl, thanks for all the advice! Condor, I am assuming there should NOT be any smoke? Bill, thanks!
SC89Venture Posted May 20, 2010 #6 Posted May 20, 2010 Ask the current owner to pop off the side panels and take the top off the gas tank to take a look at the wiring. I will next time. Make sure no wire ties are used to hold things together.
timgray Posted May 20, 2010 #7 Posted May 20, 2010 There is an OK clunk.... I get a clunk over big bumps. It's the center stand slapping back. from what I can tell that is a normal clunk sound.
Condor Posted May 20, 2010 #8 Posted May 20, 2010 MiCarl, thanks for all the advice! Condor, I am assuming there should NOT be any smoke? Bill, thanks! You assume right....
tpalshadow Posted May 21, 2010 Author #9 Posted May 21, 2010 You assume right.... What would it indicate if it does?
Condor Posted May 21, 2010 #10 Posted May 21, 2010 What would it indicate if it does? Something ain't right... Venture V4's don't smoke when running. Could be anything from an overfull crank to worn rings or valve guides....
jasonm. Posted May 21, 2010 #11 Posted May 21, 2010 remember these bike odometers only go to 99,999.9 Thus the bike could show low mileage but have 100,000 more than what's showing.
tpalshadow Posted May 22, 2010 Author #12 Posted May 22, 2010 Well the (insert explicative) sold the bike to someone else even though he told me on the phone he considered it sold until Sunday when I could get there. Any others for sale?
Ndiaz Posted May 22, 2010 #13 Posted May 22, 2010 1988 Venture for sale, looks good. http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?threadid=48822 Nick Diaz Middletown, MD
curtis Posted May 22, 2010 #14 Posted May 22, 2010 plus let it sit and idle til warm and then check for smoke from the exhaust when you blip the throttle... If it dose smoke what does that mean. I noticed the other day after waiting on a long stop light there was some blue smoke in my mirror.
Condor Posted May 22, 2010 #15 Posted May 22, 2010 If it dose smoke what does that mean. I noticed the other day after waiting on a long stop light there was some blue smoke in my mirror. Blue/white smoke is oil, black/grey smoke is unburnt fuel... PS... see my previous post...
tpalshadow Posted May 22, 2010 Author #16 Posted May 22, 2010 I found an '89 that I am going to look at tomorrow. I spoke with him this morning and the only thing he mentioned was that the screen where the PSI (I assume for the air ride) is cracked. He said it still displays, just cracked. He also stated he has "never filled the air up" for the air ride. Is this something he would need to fill? He said the screen just shows PSI and nothing else. Is this normal behavior or what would that indicate? Thanks!
MiCarl Posted May 22, 2010 #17 Posted May 22, 2010 You don't fill it, it has it's own compressor. It only works with the key in the ACC position. It'll read 0PSI until you select either front or rear, at which point it shows you the pressure in that portion of the system. It's got buttons for High, Medium and Low. The system won't do anything until you select one of those. It has a Manual switch that will allow you to use the increase/decrease buttons to set pressures other than the High, Medium and Low defaults.
warthogcrewchief Posted May 23, 2010 #18 Posted May 23, 2010 If the CLASS control unit display has only the top plastic cracked and not the LCD glass, it's a very easy and cheap fix to do. After removing the unit, remove the face, then you'll see on the inside the top clear plastic piece on the display unit. It's only glued in. You can remove it to make a new piece from plastic purchased at your local hobby shop or hardware store. Then glue it back in there with super glue.
tpalshadow Posted May 24, 2010 Author #19 Posted May 24, 2010 Bought it today! '89 Blue VR. I am extremely excited. Thanks to everyone who gave me suggestions, I felt much more confident knowing what to look for. It has a few nicks and dings here and there and probably needs a little work, but it runs great. One of the carbs was burping a little but a can of Seafoam and fresh gas and runs like a top. I'll try to post some pictures tomorrow!
Midicat Posted May 24, 2010 #20 Posted May 24, 2010 Ok, it's tomorrow now. We need to see the new addition. Pics plz.
tpalshadow Posted May 25, 2010 Author #21 Posted May 25, 2010 Ok, it's tomorrow now. We need to see the new addition. Pics plz. I got roped into helping a friend lay a patio....hopefully Wednesday I can snap some shots.
tpalshadow Posted June 6, 2010 Author #22 Posted June 6, 2010 Ok, it's tomorrow now. We need to see the new addition. Pics plz. OK, I finally had a chance to wash, wax, and mist n' shine. Here are the pics...even got a free train with it!
93 venture Posted June 6, 2010 #23 Posted June 6, 2010 OK, I finally had a chance to wash, wax, and mist n' shine. Here are the pics...even got a free train with it! That looks Great,But the color dont look like the year,that looks more like it has been repainted with 92 93 colors,I thought 89,and 90 was a lighter blue.Looks like you got a very nice bike.
Grisolm1 Posted June 7, 2010 #24 Posted June 7, 2010 Nice bike! Never seen that type of windshield before with the side deflectors. Anyone know who makes it?
Squidley Posted June 7, 2010 #25 Posted June 7, 2010 That looks Great,But the color dont look like the year,that looks more like it has been repainted with 92 93 colors,I thought 89,and 90 was a lighter blue.Looks like you got a very nice bike. The '89 I have that Grey Ghost bought from me is that color. Actually the '89 and 90 are identical as Dave P has Kevins old bike and they are twins....nice looking scoot
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