Like to ask Question on weight

[SilvrT]

Since we are on this topic, I just thought of something which relates. Do those of you riding a 2nd gen who have or still own a 1st gen find the 2nd gen heavier than the 1st gen?.... more difficult to lift off the sidestand? .... easier or harder to get on and off the bike?? Got me wondering now what to expect when I move up to a 2nd gen.

[JOE MCDERMOTT]

Want to thank everyone for there respones on this Forum and special

thinks to George S and Don "Freebird".

They helped me with 1st and 2nd Generation Ventures for last couple of years...Thank You.

I just purchased and took a major loss on trading 2000MM on

2007 BMW 1200RT..

I will tell you all that I have owned this 2000 Mm for only 4 weeks

and when I wrote this thread I was really surprised how close to

being out of control and just being on edge of control that I have

been and how you all say the same thing..

The 3 years I owned the 85 Venture never even once felt that way.

I am always looking for a escape route on all bikes when riding

and have to tell you that I could not even think ahead because

any quick movement this 2000 was going down..

Other than my 2001 Hertiage Springer and still have it the 2000 MM

was a eye catcher and looking at the bike trading it in I really wanted

to conquer it and feel like a glove but the weight of bike was not ever

going to give me that comfort and listening to all you who have owned

2nd Generation longer still say the same thing of being on edge when

riding this bike..

I even was thing of BMW 1200 LT and to have a electric lift to raise

it tells me this bike is the same as Venture 2nd Generation.

I wanted a lighter bike I could ride and give me a sense of some

control and look for a escape if needed with the roads here in NJ

and drivers who give no space to anyone but themselves.

Well I wish you all well and happy Venture Riding and Ride Safe..

Joe in NJ......Thanks Again for this Site

[Freebird]

Joe,

I hope that the new bike works out better for you. I know that you weren't happy with the RSV. Just because you traded, you don't have to leave us now. We are about more than the brand.

 

Don

[Jercoupe]

hey Jack... I met you and your wife... remember? Now, I don't wanna get anyone in trouble here but she didn't look anywhere near 180 to me.... startin another family???

 

 

SilvrT: youre forgetting she is 6ft tall and can kick your butt! Jack in los osos ca

[SilvrT]

SilvrT: youre forgetting she is 6ft tall and can kick your butt! Jack in los osos ca

 

As you may recall, Nina is 5' 10" and yanno what?... she can kick muh butt too!

 

(beginning to wonder if maybe I like it...)

 

[BradT]

Want to thank everyone for there respones

The 3 years I owned the 85 Venture never even once felt that way.

Joe in NJ......Thanks Again for this Site

 

Your welcome, I hope you found the bike you will fel comfortable on. I believe that is a big deal, feeling comfortable, on what your riding and if the RSV was not it then you made the right decision.

 

Funny though I find my 99 lighter to pick up (of the stand) than my 86, and I felt the 86 was more top heavy than the 99. However in the parking lots the 99 is definetly one that you have to be careful with.

 

Best of luck and hoping you stick around.

 

And you forgot the number one rule Pictures. We still get the pictures.

 

BRad

[Jercoupe]

Listen guys I just have to throw this in cause i keep hearing how heavy and unmanagable the venture is expecially in parking lots. You have just got to learn the correct techniques to ride this beast. Once you have learned you will find it is a very nimble preformer even in the tightest parking lots! Im not anykind of fantastic rider but I did get the ride like a pro video last year and took the msf advanced course and before that I would have agreed with every "hard to ride "coment ever stated here. I use the techniques learned and I will put my bike up against any bike at slow speeds( except maybe a trails bike and thats just because i dont know the technique to stand a venture on its back wheel while jumping over a car!) Just had to say this. A bike is a bike and it doesnt matter how heavy!

Jack in los osos ca:rant:

[spear]

I'm 90kg, my wife 45kg (you work it out). The bike is 380kg (I know that's a smidge over 800lb). Pre-ride I take the bike of the side stand and heave it upright. I lean slightly to the right (maybe 2 degrees) as the bride steps onto the board and gently stands up on it and swings her right leg over. Once she's seated she's a whizz pillion. Leans with me, cuddles me, talks to me - just loves me (and the RSV of course.)

[Guest KitCarson]

Listen guys I just have to throw this in cause i keep hearing how heavy and unmanagable the venture is expecially in parking lots. You have just got to learn the correct techniques to ride this beast. Once you have learned you will find it is a very nimble preformer even in the tightest parking lots! Im not anykind of fantastic rider but I did get the ride like a pro video last year and took the msf advanced course and before that I would have agreed with every "hard to ride "coment ever stated here. I use the techniques learned and I will put my bike up against any bike at slow speeds( except maybe a trails bike and thats just because i dont know the technique to stand a venture on its back wheel while jumping over a car!) Just had to say this. A bike is a bike and it doesnt matter how heavy!

Jack in los osos ca:rant:

I have to agree.....between the rear brake and a little throttle.....you can do a lot with a big bike.....do have to just take your time and go easy backing one out of the garage or tight spot, but a lot of bikes are much more so called top heavy than the venture.....well not a lot....but know one.......I did not say this but the 1st Gens are better balanced .......they just cannot go as fast!! Think if I ever have to take a MC test again though, had to do that when I went to Florida for a bit........those cones are a bit close on that one corner, put my foot down once.......they told me to stay in second gear....shifted down the next time and gunned the big Harley around the cone second time....finally made it the third time......they had no sense of humor!! Think I would go rent a 125 enduro street bike and grin at them!! Big bikes are a handful at first when stopped.....but it does not take long to learn to take the bike off the stand first......turn it around , get it out of the garage first.

I suppose I do turn the wheel to the right a bit......had to go do it to figure out what I do as I do it without thinking.......then we have a set of signals we use.......she taps me on the shoulder.........or pinches me if I do not behave...........Kit

[Thom]

kit , i cheated the last time i did it on a 125 endro , the 1st time - CB 750 in Ca. - not bad all most dropped it on the ramp stop , in those days you had to drive up a steep ramp stop , get off , get on and take off , not roll back .

2nd time - hd fatbob - Nv. sucked

3rd time - Fl. - 125 endro - it was fun , i did that one when i took the MSF school with my wife . it took her 2 trys to pass it , she said the 1st time she failed it is because i was watching ??? the 2nd time i had to leave .

 

[Guest KitCarson]

kit , i cheated the last time i did it on a 125 endro , the 1st time - CB 750 in Ca. - not bad all most dropped it on the ramp stop , in those days you had to drive up a steep ramp stop , get off , get on and take off , not roll back .

2nd time - hd fatbob - Nv. sucked

3rd time - Fl. - 125 endro - it was fun , i did that one when i took the MSF school with my wife . it took her 2 trys to pass it , she said the 1st time she failed it is because i was watching ??? the 2nd time i had to leave .

 

Yes that would be the answer. They have a motorcycle and truckers testing site Locally, here in Lexington. I sometimes stop and watch them practice. They will allow anyone to practice all day as long as they do not have a test to give. Putting those big bikes around that simple little course is a chore. I stopped by there the other evening and gave it a go.....I would have failed it again!! The course is just laid out too close for a big bike.....to make the sharp turn at the end , hey you have to go to 1st gear and ride the rear brake and throttle at the same time, have to....or fall over:sign20:. They will not let you go below second gear. Yes I remember the ramp thing...gosh I am getting old.......that was ages ago......I did that on a sportster. Take Care. Kit