electrical help needed!

[Bill in NJ]

GeorgeS - I did charge the new battery with a real charger. tested both at the battery and at the r/r plug both at 13.6 volts. ordered the new r/r today should be here in a day or two then i'll see if that does it. By the way were are the grounds located that I should check.

 

ediddy let me know how you make out,

[GeorgeS]

I know where it is on 1st Gens, but Not for the 2nd Gen.

 

You will just have to look for a Ground stud on the frame with about 5 black wires hooked to it. Its there someplace !!

 

Sombody must Know!! Sorry, on that one.

[Gearhead]

I'm coming in kinda late here, but it seems to me that if you've found burnt wires and/or connectors, you've probably found your problem. If there's resistance between the wire and the connector at the crimp, you might get full voltage with no load. But as soon as you start passing current (charging) through, voltage will drop, temperature will rise, things will burn and melt.

 

Here's an option that totally eliminates that variable - cut the connector out and solder the wires up direct. You could simply twist and tape them together for a test.

 

Check for a bad battery ground like this: put one lead of VOM on neg terminal, the other lead on the engine or frame, with the engine running (load on the system). You should read very little voltage drop, I'd say less than .2V. You can always run an auxiliary ground wire from the batt to any part of the frame or engine if there's any doubt.

 

You certainly could have a bad RR unit, but given what I've read my money is on a connection.

 

Jeremy

[Bill in NJ]

I was double checking all the grounds, by the way i found the main ground on the right side behind the cover in front of the tank, and connection and thought I would give it another try. started the bike and nothing. while the bike was running i move the r/r and stuck it behind some wires to move the bike and while moving the bike it fell. My volt meter lit up like a Chrismas tree. Got some help from my son, while he watched the meter i move the r/r around and of course the meter went off and on. Didn't do it the first time I tried it. So now I need to redo the Neg pin of the plug and that should do it.

GeorgeS and Ruffy will automotive connectors work to repair the plug?? only want to do it once. Thanks again for all your help.

[1BigDog]

I was double checking all the grounds, by the way i found the main ground on the right side behind the cover in front of the tank, and connection and thought I would give it another try. started the bike and nothing. while the bike was running i move the r/r and stuck it behind some wires to move the bike and while moving the bike it fell. My volt meter lit up like a Chrismas tree. Got some help from my son, while he watched the meter i move the r/r around and of course the meter went off and on. Didn't do it the first time I tried it. So now I need to redo the Neg pin of the plug and that should do it.

GeorgeS and Ruffy will automotive connectors work to repair the plug?? only want to do it once. Thanks again for all your help.

 

The connectors are slim. The auto connectors I had found were kinda thin for my tastes, meaning the connectors themselves were made with very thin material. I had a heck of a time finding the right pins but International trucks had the right gauge and proper pin. Im sure the automotive pin would work as well. It was just my preference to go with a heavier pin. You can also attach those auto pins then hardwire the pin into place or just hardwire the wire to the pin itself. The 3 middle wires are 12 g and the pos and neg are 10 g. Biggest thing to remember is to make sure your hooking up the right wire to the right pin. Make a wrong connection and POOF!! Mark everything and draw a diagram.

[Bill in NJ]

Hi all. I replaced the negative pin on the plug a put the new r/r because the old one had some burning on it, put it all back together, tested it again and went for a ride. Bike is putting out 14.4 at the battery. Volt meter is reading the same. Just to test it I put on my driving lights, heated jacket and led lights. It still showed it charging around 13.8. So I am back on the road thanks to you guys. I really hate electrical problems but glad I have you guys to help out. Thanks again everyone.

Bill

[GeorgeS]

Hi all. I replaced the negative pin on the plug a put the new r/r because the old one had some burning on it, put it all back together, tested it again and went for a ride. Bike is putting out 14.4 at the battery. Volt meter is reading the same. Just to test it I put on my driving lights, heated jacket and led lights. It still showed it charging around 13.8. So I am back on the road thanks to you guys. I really hate electrical problems but glad I have you guys to help out. Thanks again everyone.

Bill

 

OK !! Nothing like success when an electrical problem is fixed. Don't forget to ReCharge the Battery after all this.

 

Also, seal up that plug to keep water from getting in there again ( yes it will ! )

 

C U down the road my friend !!!

[LilBeaver]

Hi all. I replaced the negative pin on the plug a put the new r/r because the old one had some burning on it, put it all back together, tested it again and went for a ride. Bike is putting out 14.4 at the battery. Volt meter is reading the same. Just to test it I put on my driving lights, heated jacket and led lights. It still showed it charging around 13.8. So I am back on the road thanks to you guys. I really hate electrical problems but glad I have you guys to help out. Thanks again everyone.

Bill

 

I was double checking all the grounds, by the way i found the main ground on the right side behind the cover in front of the tank, and connection and thought I would give it another try. started the bike and nothing. while the bike was running i move the r/r and stuck it behind some wires to move the bike and while moving the bike it fell. My volt meter lit up like a Chrismas tree. Got some help from my son, while he watched the meter i move the r/r around and of course the meter went off and on. Didn't do it the first time I tried it. So now I need to redo the Neg pin of the plug and that should do it.

GeorgeS and Ruffy will automotive connectors work to repair the plug?? only want to do it once. Thanks again for all your help.

 

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By the way were are the grounds located that I should check...

 

 

Well Glad you got it all figured out. Sorry about not answering your question about where the grounds were ~ somehow I managed to lose track of this thread.

 

Regardless, as stated, glad you got it all taken care of! And yes, electrical problems can be a PAIN!