Guest human4m Posted March 25, 2010 #1 Posted March 25, 2010 I've been talking with Dave, over at Wide Whitewall Tires (Hobbycar.com) and he said he can have a run of WHITEWALL car tires specially made for the VR Darksider Members interested! They will be whitewall on BOTH sides, and they WILL be car tires in a 165-80-15 or 155-80-15. He asked me to get an idea of how many people might be interested, and he will get back to me on pricing info. SO- If it's something you're interested in, let me know. Either reply to the post or PM me. If you have any questions you'd like me to ask him, feel free, and I'll email him on Monday with the list of questions gathered! So far, one of the questions I plan on asking him, since they are manufacturing the tire, is can they put the VR logo, or the mottoe somewhere on the tire.. That'd be sweet... Maybe overkill, but who cares?!
short-haul Posted March 25, 2010 #2 Posted March 25, 2010 Depending on the price and the tire manufacturer and tread design. I would be interested
bluerstd08 Posted March 26, 2010 #3 Posted March 26, 2010 I am definately interested!!! but not until the nexen wears out.... next year! lol
Guest human4m Posted March 26, 2010 #4 Posted March 26, 2010 He said they're likely to run in the $150 range... I'm not sure what you DS's are paying for your C/T's currently, so maybe it's a moot point?
BigBoyinMS Posted March 26, 2010 #5 Posted March 26, 2010 I think the Nexens, Kumhos and Federals are running us between $40-$70. But still a good price to add the whitewalls. Just not for me.
pegscraper Posted March 27, 2010 #6 Posted March 27, 2010 That price would not be too bad, really. IIRC, DBtires gets $75 per WW - one for each side - that's $150 just for WWs plus the price of the tire.
Pegasus1300 Posted March 27, 2010 #7 Posted March 27, 2010 I would be interested depending on price.Also which size is the best for an RSTD.I have been thinking of going to the darkside but lack of a WWW has kept me from it.
LetHimRide Posted March 27, 2010 #8 Posted March 27, 2010 I was going to order a ct this week but I will wait now because I would like to keep the www look with my bike. Please let me know how your research goes! thanks Human4m.
Guest human4m Posted March 28, 2010 #9 Posted March 28, 2010 Monday I will be getting back in touch with him, he is just waiting to hear from me about how many members would be interested in ordering them. I would also need an idea of which size the general consensus would want.
Copusetic Posted March 28, 2010 #10 Posted March 28, 2010 I'd certainly be interested. Any idea of what brand/make of tire it would be?
eagleeye Posted March 28, 2010 #11 Posted March 28, 2010 I'd be interested, but not for a couple of years. My DB WWW, Nexen, 165-80-15 has got a lot of miles to go. But thanks for checking this out for us. I'll keep this in mind for the future. Steve
dragerman Posted March 28, 2010 #12 Posted March 28, 2010 I realize you that you don’t have a set price yet but $150 would be a fairly good deal. I'd like to give another try with the Kumho but first I want to find a way to reduce the install pressure. Currently I have a spare rim and am looking into having it modified but I want to do so without affecting any tolerances. Me thinks “Nothing ‘Ventured’ nothing gained” ... doing it in WW's is doing it in style!
Guest human4m Posted March 29, 2010 #13 Posted March 29, 2010 Here's what Dave told me today... The tire would/could be: Firestone Hankook Federal Michelin If you could throw out some of the dimensions the owners would want, I could then take it up with the vendor and see what possibilities there are. Also, please verify the whitewall width you would require. I will then investigate it more. Thanks, Dave So it's up to you guys now. Tell me what size, and what width of whitewall you want, as well as the PREFERRED brand, but he can't guarantee which one(s) it would be.
gunboat Posted March 29, 2010 #14 Posted March 29, 2010 we are limited as to what size tires will fit the rsv rim, those 2 sizes are: 155-80-15 or a 165-80-15. now the c/t manufactors are: b.f.goodrich radial t/a kumno power star 758 165-80-15 nexum vernerstien makes one as does mickey tompson but these 2 tires are about $165.00 each. the bfg cost me $45.00 and the kumno about the same. their maybe a few others but i can't find all my notes right now. thanks for the info. hope this helps don c.
pegscraper Posted March 30, 2010 #15 Posted March 30, 2010 Here's what Dave told me today... The tire would/could be: Firestone Hankook Federal Michelin Of these four brands he mentioned, the only one who makes a tire in a size that will fit is Federal in a 165/80R15. DBTires put 2 1/4" WWs on the one I had them do. It's what you're looking at in my sig pic here.
Guest human4m Posted March 30, 2010 #16 Posted March 30, 2010 You guys kinda missed my point. Dave is in cahoots with those manufacturers, and can possibly have a limited run of WW`s made, just for the VR members. I`m just trying to find out what the majority preference is of mfr. and size of WW.
pegscraper Posted March 30, 2010 #17 Posted March 30, 2010 The manufacturers have to make a tire in the correct size to begin with, do they not? Dave won't get anybody to make a size they don't already make.
Guest human4m Posted March 30, 2010 #18 Posted March 30, 2010 That's actually what he does. He's basically a liason who get's different sizes manufactured based on demand. Normaly it's for classic cars, but he said he's interested in doing it for the motorcycles.
short-haul Posted March 30, 2010 #19 Posted March 30, 2010 I am still interested the size would be whatever is recommended by the people who have been running CT on RSV. The WW on my bike now is 1 3/4" which I think is standard for RSV tires. I have not run a CT on my RVS yet but was planing on it once I wear out my present tire,and/or I find a spare rear rim to mount it on. I personally would prefer a BFG, Michelin or Firestone. I feel that if the CT was avaible with WW on both sides that there would be a market for them.
RandyR Posted March 30, 2010 #20 Posted March 30, 2010 I think the type/strength of the sidewall and tread pattern would weigh heavily on the choice of tire. If you're saying that we could have a custom tire with extra strong sidewall and semi-wrap-around tread then that would be ideal, and would negate much of the criticism of the darkside tires.
pegscraper Posted March 30, 2010 #21 Posted March 30, 2010 That's actually what he does. He's basically a liason who get's different sizes manufactured based on demand. Normaly it's for classic cars, but he said he's interested in doing it for the motorcycles. If he can actually get a manufacturer to make a size they don't currently make, then I guess you're right, I didn't pick that up before. A 165/80R15 CT is the size that fits and matches the width and circumference of the stock size MT almost exactly. My current tire has 2 1/4" WWs and they're a nice size. I don't have a brand preference, but a US made name brand would be nice instead of the foreign made ones of questionable quality currently available.
Guest human4m Posted March 30, 2010 #22 Posted March 30, 2010 I emailed him today: "Okay, here’s what the majority rule seems to be… For tire dimensions: 155-80-15 or a 165-80-15. The 165-80 seems to be the more popular, since it's closest to the stock size. Whitewall Width: Min:1.75” Max:2.25” The Members are hoping for an extra strong sidewall and semi-wrap-around tread. The only universal complaint (as far as I know) about using the car tires is the mounting pressure to seat the bead has been over 100psi at times, which we all fear lowers the integrity of the tire." I should hear from him tomorrow.
pegscraper Posted March 31, 2010 #23 Posted March 31, 2010 The 155/80R15 CT is quite a bit shorter tire than the stock MT size. That size comes up because it is the first size that was tried on this bike. But it was realized soon after that a 165 is a better match. If we have a choice in size, use the 165 and not the 155.
flb_78 Posted March 31, 2010 #24 Posted March 31, 2010 Yup, the 165 is more gooder. It'd be nice if someone made a 165/90R15 to try out once to get a little more height.
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